[QUOTE]American journalist Glenn Greenwald shared a series of documents leaked by whistleblower Edward Snowden with the Swedish public broadcaster. The documents suggest that FRA - Sweden's national authority for signals intelligence - works closely with the US National Security Agency (NSA).
A document dated 18 April 2013, states:
"NSA's relationship with the FRA, an extremely competent, technically innovative, and trusted Third Party partner, continues to grow. The FRA provided NSA with access to its cable collection in 2011, providing unique collection on high-priority Russian targets."
Another document from 2013 states:
"NSA (…) would like to continue to collaborate on FRA's cable access program, which has resulted in unique SIGINT reporting on a variety of high-priority SIGINT topics."
The FRA has previously maintained that all information that is sent on to foreign agencies first goes through a rigorous screening process.
"No foreign nation's organisation has direct access to our data. We screen it carefully before handing it over," FRA's director-general, Dag Hartelius, told Swedish Television earlier this year.
Asked what the Americans meant by having "access to FRA's cable collection," Walling replied: "I cannot answer to why these alleged documents say what they say."[/QUOTE]
[url]http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=5727251[/url]
The US controls the west. Just like Russia controls the east in some aspects.
Cold war never ended it just became one sided.
[editline]8th December 2013[/editline]
Maybe I should say "has a sphere of influence over" rather than control.
The Swedish Intelligence are American muppets? Bork bork bork?
Thus giving ammo to Julian Assange's assertions.
Do we know the classified recipe to Swedish Meatballs yet?
I can't think of a single thing we'd need to hold from the rest of the world. Our army is dying out anyway, it's not like we're doing anything with it so there can't be anything big there.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;43120253]I can't think of a single thing we'd need to hold from the rest of the world. Our army is dying out anyway, it's not like we're doing anything with it so there can't be anything big there.[/QUOTE]
ikea's secrets has been revealed
Can we PLEASE just assume the U.S. is monitoring everyone and accessing everything across the entire world? It just seems so obvious at this point. It's not even news anymore.
I called this: no shit they're cooperating. Each countries intelligence agency wants that sort of PRISM-esque access to their own people, no matter how "free" they claim to be. It's the nature of intelligence work.
Every politician that gets outraged about this should take a deeper look into what their own intel agencies are doing.
Fuck my government who allows the US to stick it in our asses, and even moreso fuck the US for even doing it in the first place.
I'm moving to the moon.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;43120720]Fuck my government who allows the US to stick it in our asses, and even moreso fuck the US for even doing it in the first place.
I'm moving to the moon.[/QUOTE]
All hail the new lunar republic!
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;43120720]Fuck my government who allows the US to stick it in our asses, and even moreso fuck the US for even doing it in the first place.
I'm moving to the moon.[/QUOTE]
Actually it's more like passionate love rather than assrape.
But really this is just two intelligence agencies working together to catch terrorists. If the NSA wasn't literally on fire from all the heat it's been taking recently this would be pretty okay.
[QUOTE=Usernameztaken;43120942]Actually it's more like passionate love rather than assrape.
But really this is just two intelligence agencies working together to catch terrorists. If the NSA wasn't literally on fire from all the heat it's been taking recently this would be pretty okay.[/QUOTE]
Intelligence agencies shouldn't fucking monitor civilians without a record, this is whats currently happening and its just fucking disgusting.
[QUOTE=Rankzerox;43121004]Intelligence agencies shouldn't fucking monitor civilians without a record, this is whats currently happening and its just fucking disgusting.[/QUOTE]
But this isn't saying that they are, it's saying Sweden is allowing them to monitor some russians of interest that just so happen to be in Sweden.
I hear the US has everyone's intelligence too.
[QUOTE=Rankzerox;43121004]Intelligence agencies shouldn't fucking monitor civilians without a record, this is whats currently happening and its just fucking disgusting.[/QUOTE]
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(I'm sorry)
a whole 6GBs
Isn't Swedish intelligence an oxymoron? :v:
Seriously though, I thought it was well know that sweden bent over hard for the US for a long time.
[QUOTE=Chubbles;43120363]Can we PLEASE just assume the U.S. is monitoring everyone and accessing everything across the entire world? It just seems so obvious at this point. It's not even news anymore.[/QUOTE]
the problem with thinking like that is that once actual evidence of the US spying on everyone comes out (as it did with the whole Snowden thing), everyone's reaction is "oh everybody knew, old news" and nobody gives a shit
Well, this is gonna escalate.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;43121144][IMG](I'm sorry)[/QUOTE]
Its so so sad, but so so true.
[QUOTE=Irespawnoften;43120931]All hail the new lunar republic![/QUOTE]
Take me wiiith yoooooooouu....
[quote]the FRA has previously maintained that all information that is sent on to [B]foreign agencies[/B] first goes through a rigorous screening process.[/quote]
The NSA isn't the only one
I hate mass surveliance as much as the next person but I don't see the issue of sharing some intelligance on lets say the last known whereabouts of a known terroists cell leader.
This isn't an all access pass into Swedish Intelligance like some people seem to think.
[QUOTE=Chubbles;43120363]Can we PLEASE just assume the U.S. is monitoring everyone and accessing everything across the entire world? It just seems so obvious at this point. It's not even news anymore.[/QUOTE]
That reminds me of CISPA.
At least countries can work together?
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;43120381]I called this: no shit they're cooperating. Each countries intelligence agency wants that sort of PRISM-esque access to their own people, no matter how "free" they claim to be. It's the nature of intelligence work.
Every politician that gets outraged about this should take a deeper look into what their own intel agencies are doing.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be surprised if those nations were doing it already. Remember, the only reason PRISM got leaked is because the US was using companies, Snowden wasn't a US Federal Employee I believe.
[editline]9th December 2013[/editline]
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(I'm sorry)[/QUOTE]
Can we address this already? This is nothing like 1984, first off because 1984 is set in Europe. Secondly, there was only one party. That's not case in any of these nations, hell in the US, its very acute that we have two parties that hate each other. The only similiarities between the two is the mass spying. The internet effectively killed off any attempt to become a 1984-esque world unless you build your internet from the ground up like China did around that.
We're not in dystopia failing society, we're in a radically changing society. We're closer to Cyberpunk and Fahrenheit 451. You guys SERIOUSLY, need to read more than 1984.
We have the knowledge of Sweden and we're still fucking dumb.
weve been monitoring russia since we hate those fuckers (not rly thou(or do we?)), since the cold war, and been giving it out information as well
i thought this was well known
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