Ahmadinejad unveils new 'ambassador of death' unmanned drone bomber - Polidicks

[QUOTE=RBM11;24274054]It's better to tear him apart to make your side of the debate look favorable to the lurkers. [editline]05:59PM[/editline] He seems to imply that others look down on "brown people" because of their skin color which introduces racism into a topic that has nothing to do with race. If this was a legitimate argument about race in which a man was fired for being brown it would be perfectly fine to use the "silly little brown people" argument against supporters of the employer of said hypothetical person.[/QUOTE] JDK's posts are going downhill. I use to enjoy what he had to say when it actually added to the debate. Now all he seams to do is attack people for being racist.

[QUOTE=BusterBluth;24274152]Iv always viewed you to be buddy's with him, my view of you has greatly improved.[/QUOTE]Sharing the same views doesn't neccessarily create 'buddies'. For example, the Israeli issue is one of the most important topic IMO, you'll most likely see me in every related thread. However there are a few people who almost mirror my views that I deeply despise.

[QUOTE=OvB;24274211]JDK's posts are going downhill. I use to enjoy what he had to say when it actually added to the debate. Now all he seams to do is attack people for being racist.[/QUOTE] This is JDK anymore. Except instead of losing the debate, he just shouts it for the hell of it. [img_thumb]http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/richedit/upload/2k42e6e364b3.gif[/img_thumb]

Well I didn't necessarily say he shared the same views as jdk721 Its just that mentality is developed over time.

[QUOTE=starpluck;24271977]I'd love to play a round of Supremacy 1914 with GunFox to see if he's actually a tactician. You guys should check it out; it's free.[/QUOTE] What about Hearts of Iron 2 or Arsenal of Democracy? Both are grand strategy but you micromanage every single division whereas HOI3 is about controlling chains of command.

[QUOTE=BusterBluth;24274152]Iv always viewed you to be buddy's with him, my view of you has greatly improved.[/QUOTE] I'm not friends with anyone on facepunch really, there are folk I tend to agree with in the sense of views, but when it comes to debating there are strict rules that don't need to be followed but for your own sake, should be. 1. Form a logical stand point based on your interpretation of evidence and context of the situation. 2. Do not mention something unless it can be backed up from a reputable source. 3. No straw men or ad hominen attacks, if you sink that low then you've already lost and should accept it, no counter productive pride. 4.No herping or derping of any kind, at all for [B]DAS ES FORBODEN![/B] Seriously, though folk can have their opinions no matter how retarded they are, if they start bashing though that's when I'll make myself known.

[QUOTE=bravehat;24274485]I'm not friends with anyone on facepunch really, there are folk I tend to agree with in the sense of views, but when it comes to debating there are strict rules that don't need to be followed but for your own sake, should be. 1. Form a logical stand point based on your interpretation of evidence and context of the situation. 2. Do not mention something unless it can be backed up from a reputable source. 3. No straw men or ad hominen attacks, if you sink that low then you've already lost and should accept it, no counter productive pride. 4.No herping or derping of any kind, at all for [B]DAS ES FORBODEN![/B] Seriously, though folk can have their opinions no matter how retarded they are, if they start bashing though that's when I'll make myself known.[/QUOTE] Sad part is, JDK wasn't even losing at a debate because there wasn't one to begin with. He immediately went into attacking.

[QUOTE=RBM11;24274427]What about Hearts of Iron 2 or Arsenal of Democracy? Both are grand strategy but you micromanage every single division whereas HOI3 is about controlling chains of command.[/QUOTE] You can do the same with 1914, but I'll check both games. The thing is that Supremacy is in real time, like if I move just units from the ottoman empire's border to central Greece, it'll take like 6-8 hours in real time. Rounds usually last for 4 months.

as long as they say it's for deterrence i don't see any reason to complain

[QUOTE=OvB;24274211]JDK's posts are going downhill.[/QUOTE] I agree with this. It's probably because I spend too much time on FP and just get bored.

[quote=bravehat;24274485]i'm not friends with anyone on facepunch really, there are folk i tend to agree with in the sense of views, but when it comes to debating there are strict rules that don't need to be followed but for your own sake, should be. 1. Form a logical stand point based on your interpretation of evidence and context of the situation. 2. Do not mention something unless it can be backed up from a reputable source. 3. No straw men or ad hominen attacks, if you sink that low then you've already lost and should accept it, no counter productive pride. 4.no herping or derping of any kind, at all for [B]das es forboden![/B] seriously, though folk can have their opinions no matter how retarded they are, if they start bashing though that's when i'll make myself known.[/quote] How not to argue: [quote=jdk721;24263442]yeah those silly brown people are obviously going to start a war.[/quote] [quote=jdk721;24265790]ohadje is a paranoid moron that thinks every brown person is gonna kill him.[/quote] [quote=jdk721;24266989]if you've seen his posts you'd know that he's a fanatical right-wing israeli who thinks that all those silly brown people are out to get him. He was even talking about participating in an armed resistance if they ever tried anything. He also supports apartheid policies and justifies war crimes against them.[/quote] And last but not least... [QUOTE=JDK721;24268763]90% of the time[B] I don't derail the thread[/B]. I'm just sick of seeing people like Ohadje.[/QUOTE] How to Argue: [QUOTE=ohadje;24263071]I definitely am scared from dying from some Iranian missile or some shit, but Israel has the upper hand regarding this. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the US and others will back Israel up in case an armed conflict with Iran will erupt. I'm also quite scared of the fact I'll be a soldier in two years, which might be right before an armed conflict with Iran will begin. But I find these threats pathetic, as if taken from some Batman movie. Ambassador of Death? Seriously? Can't get a bigger cliché than that.[/QUOTE] Understandable. He's going to be a soldier in a region with a lot of conflict and just read an article about a future potential enemy's UAV. [QUOTE=ohadje;24263613]Oh my. [URL="http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:bJLAe09wzdgJ:www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/English/eng_n/pdf/iran_hezbollah_e1.pdf+Iran+Hizbollah+Arm&hl=iw&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiWtFmpB4R5yl0u1G6YTU3KeEEMvpfEL2W1lJtpEGdN_u7oW6a82D_6owAh4cWXixyz6hYjbA7BeoPPJU2OK108GWXlqU-4tABnlyp9RqlKe06ohC7Uu6dBdjm4Z4aeDXmOLkx-&sig=AHIEtbTIr_twVgfNoy2N7DEpklCwaloa6g"]Iran & Hizballah - Summary[/URL] [URL="https://www.hudson.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=publication_details&id=5167"]The Iran-Hamas Alliance[/URL] [URL="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3512014.ece"]Hamas wages Iran’s proxy war on Israel A Hamas leader admits hundreds of his fighters have travelled to Tehran[/URL] [URL="http://www.haaretz.com/news/ahmadinejad-iran-will-support-hamas-until-collapse-of-israel-1.253714"]Ahmadinejad: Iran will support Hamas until collapse of Israel[/URL] [URL="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64T0U920100530"]General McChrystal says Afghan insurgents trained in Iran[/URL] [URL="http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/11/iraq.main/index.html"]Iraqi insurgents being trained in Iran, U.S. says[/URL] [URL="http://www.military.com/news/article/odierno-iran-supports-iraq-insurgents.htmlOdierno"]Iran Supports Iraq Insurgents[/URL] [URL="http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/saudi-arabia-we-will-not-give-israel-air-corridor-for-iran-strike-1.295672?localLinksEnabled=false"]Saudi Arabia: We will not give Israel air corridor for Iran strike[/URL] Saudi Arabia later denied this report. Article on a possible alliance between Israel and the Sunni nations (lets remember: Sunnies view Shiites as heretics) [URL="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/anatole_kaletsky/article1289166.ece"]An unholy alliance threatening catastrophe[/URL] edit: fail. Anyways, the original report said Saudi Arabia ALLOWED passage but later denied.[/QUOTE] Backs up his claim that Iran is a potential enemy with several links illustrating their past aggressions. While I must say I have less in common politically with ohadje than I do with JDK, he won this debate or whatever it was. :golfclap:

Rated RBM11 artistic ^^^

[QUOTE=starpluck;24274614]You can do the same with 1914, but I'll check both games. The thing is that Supremacy is in real time, like if I move just units from the ottoman empire's border to central Greece, it'll take like 6-8 hours in real time. Rounds usually last for 4 months.[/QUOTE] That's cool. HOI has variable speed, the slowest being 10 seconds for an ingame hour to 3 seconds in a day. FYI Arsenal of Democracy is a fan re-release version of HOI:2 Doomsday so it has 95% in common with it. The difference is it adds a lot more scenarios and new features. If you've never heard of Paradox Interactive you should definitely check them out. Great post-release support of their games and they make the best grand strategy games I've ever played. A bunch of screenshots: [URL]http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=445142[/URL] A few of them: [IMG_thumb]http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1040/devdiary1.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [IMG_thumb]http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3388/devdiary21.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [IMG_thumb]http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6060/devdiary31.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [IMG_thumb]http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3779/devdiary33.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [IMG_thumb]http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8018/devdiary4statistics1.jpg[/IMG_thumb] (Screen is unique to AoD [IMG_thumb]http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5553/devdiary4statistics2.jpg[/IMG_thumb] (Same) [img_thumb]http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2580/dd69upgrade.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8579/screensave7.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/images/06/27/62765_ScreenSave2.jpg[/img_thumb]

[QUOTE=JDK721;24274759]I agree with this. It's probably because I spend too much time on FP and just get bored.[/QUOTE] I'm on here almost all hours of the day, and bored and I don't even shitpost like that. Maybe you should take a breather for a couple days, like read a good novel or something.

[QUOTE=JDK721;24274759]I agree with this. It's probably because I spend too much time on FP and just get bored.[/QUOTE] [editline]06:33PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;24274869]I'm on here almost all hours of the day, and bored and I don't even shitpost like that. Maybe you should take a breather for a couple days, like read a good novel or something.[/QUOTE] It really wouldn't make sense if you were calling people out for their views :smug: "How DARE you oppose executing people!"

[QUOTE=bravehat;24273755][img]http://i50.tinypic.com/14b6jxk.jpg[/img] A nuclear power plant will never be detonated, it would be like a puff of smoke and they just killed power to a chunk of their nation and most likely war industry. That plant would be heavily defended.[/QUOTE] And chickens don't cross the road either.

[QUOTE=JDK721;24274873][editline]06:33PM[/editline] It really wouldn't make sense if you were calling people out for their views :smug: "How DARE you oppose executing people!"[/QUOTE] Except I don't act like this: [img]http://www.blueblood.net/_newsimgs/duty_calls.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;24275069]And chickens don't cross the road either.[/QUOTE] Yeah most of the time they get ran over and flattened. Iran isn't a chicken fuck face, it is a nation capable of conscious informed decision, they are not going to destroy the plant.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;24275228]Except I don't act like this:[/QUOTE] Wow another image macro. Brilliant.

[QUOTE=JDK721;24275273]Wow another image macro. Brilliant.[/QUOTE] You're not denying it :rolleye:

[QUOTE=bravehat;24275233]Yeah most of the time they get ran over and flattened. Iran isn't a chicken fuck face, it is a nation capable of conscious informed decision, they are not going to destroy the plant.[/QUOTE] What about Englishmen Irishmen and Scotsmen?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;24275310]You're not denying it :rolleye:[/QUOTE] So not denying something makes it true?

[QUOTE=JDK721;24275401]So not denying something makes it true?[/QUOTE] Well it's definitely not helping you by not.

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;24275397]What about Englishmen Irishmen and Scotsmen?[/QUOTE] ...I'm not sure what you're implying there, but I'm a scotsman and we don't blow up nuclear power plants dude. :colbert:

I wonder what Iran thinks every time the US unveils their new Pwn-fighter-x232 [QUOTE=JDK721;24275401]So not denying something makes it true?[/QUOTE] Dude, what are you doing? Seriously? When did this start happening? Just come back home Jimmy, we miss you, the whole family. Skippy also misses you, isn't that right skippy? [img_thumb]http://www.vicpark.wa.gov.au/images_site/DogControlPhoto.JPG[/img_thumb] *ruff ruff* Yes he also misses you.

Step 1. Acquire old public blueprint for out-of-date drone. Step 2. Change it a little. Step 3. Name it something stupid.

Create UAV drone. Get plane, put in some RC controls ???? PROFIT!!!

the "ambassador of death" is a defensive weapon I'm sure I'm late but honestly fuck right off

[QUOTE=evilweazel;24272161]What the fuck happened to you? You used to make a ton of sense and now all you do is call people names :sigh:[/QUOTE] That's what happens when you run out of arguments.

[QUOTE=starpluck;24271718]God forbid someone makes military weapons![/QUOTE] except for israel, those jews don't deserve to defend themselves, isn't that right?