Trump’s supporters talk rebellion, assassination at his rallies
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[QUOTE=archangel125;51209039]Won't weep for any of the degenerates who get violent and get killed for it. The gene pool's better off without them, and they're only reaping what they would have sown.[/QUOTE]
Wow please don't actually talk about cleansing the gene pool of degenerates.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51209039]Won't weep for any of the degenerates who get violent and get killed for it. The gene pool's better off without them, and they're only reaping what they would have sown.[/QUOTE]
You may not care about them, but their deaths will have a ripple effect on other people like them and only make things worse. They will be hailed as martyrs or touted as justification for further extremism; look at the lionization of Horst Wessel, for example. Continuing the cycle of violence benefits nobody.
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;51209045]Wow please don't actually talk about cleansing the gene pool of degenerates.[/QUOTE]
Only the ones who actually start attacking innocent people, dude. Far as I'm concerned, nothing of value will be lost.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51209024]Oh please. People have been saying this shit for YEARS. You don't see it because you don't want to. You make excuses to dismiss and diminish the people saying it because they are extreme. Things HAVE gotten monumentally worse in politics in the past few years, and it's because of how extreme everyone has gotten. Trump isn't making anything worse. He's just not trying to controlling the extreme people like you would like him to.[/QUOTE]
you're blind if you can't see the way he's actively perpetuating that mindset
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51208966]Trumps not making anything worse than it already was. You can only ignore and try to devalue people for so long before they say enough is enough and raise up. If it wasn't trump, it would be something or someone else. Trump isn't the root of the problem, he's a symptom.[/QUOTE]
I don't think people that support presidential assassination and rebellion just because their pick didn't win like it's some shitty child tantrum should be listen to or given value.
Like they're not thinking rebellion or assassination because they've been oppressed for years in a dictatorship or Clinton is going to completely ignore her platform and torch the constitution the moments she's elected or something, they want it just because their pick didn't win, it just shows a complete disregard for democracy, it's literally "Trump or riot" meme shit regardless of what the majority of American people want.
Even if Trump doesn't win they still have the House and Congress to work on, the US isn't a dictatorship, the President doesn't hold the power to do whatever he wants, it's those other two places that really have the ability to get shit done, it's why people sometimes state that even if Trump wins he wouldn't be able to do most of the crazy shit he proposes because both Republicans and Democrats dislike him enough to just block anything he might want to do.
Yet these people act like if Trump loses then it's game over America's dead blow it all up let's start over.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51209039]Won't weep for any of the degenerates who get violent and get killed for it. The gene pool's better off without them, and they're only reaping what they would have sown.[/QUOTE]
lmao dude way to weirdly co-opt the racist language of the far-right.
[QUOTE=Judas;51209019]this is entirely trump's fault, he openly supports the insane people in his voter base that support assasinating enemies and armed revolution when they don't get their way
compare this to the GOP's nominee eight years ago;
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRq6Y4NmB6U[/media][/QUOTE]
Had McCain ran this year, I would've voted for him, because he's one of the only decent republicans.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51209103]you're blind if you can't see the way he's actively perpetuating that mindset[/QUOTE]
I understand perfectly well that he's doing nothing to stop that kind of mentality, but that mentality would perpetuate with or without him. You're not going to stop it by trying to shame it or push it down. TBH, there is nothing that Trump himself can do to stop it. He isn't the cause, he's the symptom.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51209039]Won't weep for any of the degenerates who get violent and get killed for it. The gene pool's better off without them, and they're only reaping what they would have sown.[/QUOTE]
ah yes, making martyrs of them will surely solve the problem
The problem with those people who call for revolution is the mistake of how to initiate one.
I give credit where it is due. Social justice crowd is correct in the assumption the way to change a society is to change its culture. This approach can be pursued without violence.
The oligarchy is wining by subverting the system through sheer economic might.
Scientology also shown how to subvert the system during its hey day through religion.
These tactics worked. Blowing up mail boxes and malls isnt going to get desired results. Blind violent rage is dumb and counterproductive.
Lots of militia groups are already stockpiling, so... Yeah.
No matter where this ship goes, we are still hitting a fucking iceberg.
the founding fathers didn't make a nation for this rot
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;51209192]the founding fathers didn't make a nation for this rot[/QUOTE]
it always smelt a bit rotten
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51209181]Lots of militia groups are already stockpiling, so... Yeah.
No matter where this ship goes, we are still hitting a fucking iceberg.[/QUOTE]
Fuck militias. They're why this shit is happening
I am anguished by this state of affairs, more than angered.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51209199]Fuck militias. They're why this shit is happening[/QUOTE]
It goes both way sadly. Even the left-wing militias are arming.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51209199]Fuck militias. They're why this shit is happening[/QUOTE]
I blame identity politics. The right started it with it religious bullshit and intolerance which lead to the left generating its own form of identity politics and now no one is listening.
militias give guns a bad name
these people are bad apples who get off on ruining bunches
[QUOTE=joshuadim;51209117]Had McCain ran this year, I would've voted for him, because he's one of the only decent republicans.[/QUOTE]
He might have been 8+ years ago but not anymore. Though I guess Trump can make anyone look good
LA riots V2: election edition.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51209119]I understand perfectly well that he's doing nothing to stop that kind of mentality, but that mentality would perpetuate with or without him. You're not going to stop it by trying to shame it or push it down. TBH, there is nothing that Trump himself can do to stop it. He isn't the cause, he's the symptom.[/QUOTE]
i agree that he's the symptom and not the cause, i just don't think that means he has no influence over how things go. we've heard of distrust of the media and the government for years. but nothing to this extent coming from the mouth of a presidential candidate
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51209280]i agree that he's the symptom and not the cause, i just don't think that means he has no influence over how things go. we've heard of distrust of the media and the government for years. but nothing to this extent coming from the mouth of a presidential candidate[/QUOTE]
Let's be real here, he's not exactly a run of the mill presidential candidate. He's a little special, and not in a good way. The fact that he resonates so greatly with enough people that he actually made it to become a serious contender for president speaks to the extent of how large the sleeping dog is in this country. He could turn into Bernie tomorrow and the people who follow him today would not change in the slightest. They would just support someone else and continue.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51209303]Let's be real here, he's not exactly a run of the mill presidential candidate. He's a little special, and not in a good way. The fact that he resonates so greatly with enough people that he actually made it to become a serious contender for president speaks to the extent of how large the sleeping dog is in this country. He could turn into Bernie tomorrow and the people who follow him today would not change in the slightest. They would just support someone else and continue.[/QUOTE]
I think its he not the issue. Clinton is the issue. If the democrats fielded a better candidate (like Bernie) Trump wouldve been ignored. If either side fielded a candidate that was sincere of reforming things and busting up the oligarchy, they wouldve gained as much traction as Trump.
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51209317]I think its he not the issue. Clinton is the issue. If the democrats fielded a better candidate (like Bernie) he wouldve been ignored.[/QUOTE]
No, hes definitely part of the issue.
[QUOTE=duckmaster;51209320]No, hes definitely part of the issue.[/QUOTE]
As other people pointed out, he is the symptom. People in general are wanting something that neither side is offering ideologically or unwilling to give due to corruption and underhanded power politics.
Leaders do not have power. They are salespeople. Nothing more and nothing less.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51208890]I am terrified this year that no matter what happens, no matter who wins, there is going to be violence in America in November and a creation of awful divisions. I fear that the rifts being opened, especially by Trump's rhetoric, have created a Pandora's box.[/QUOTE]
Trump hasn't done anything new here. He's just given these people a figurehead to look up to and to put their faith in.
The rifts you're talking about have been breaking open in this country for a long time now. Frustration and political polarization have been brewing for decades; it's been a game of Republican vs. Democrat, conservative vs. liberal, red vs. blue for a long time now. The American people in general today are fed right the fuck up with our government and the corrupt establishment politics that kept it churning for this long. They're tired of not being represented, tired of gridlock in our congress and nothing worthwhile ever getting done, tired of the rich getting richer while the rest of us ordinary folks get poorer... for that matter, they're tired of being so frustrated and angry, and they want to let all that pent-up tension out.
I've said this I don't know how many times before, but you cannot have this degree of anger and frustration combined with this much political polarization/identity politics in society and expect everything to continue like business as usual. You [i]will[/i] have civil unrest eventually, it's inevitable-- it's only a question of how long it will take and what factor will finally set things off.
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[QUOTE=duckmaster;51209320]No, hes definitely part of the issue.[/QUOTE]
He's part of the issue, but so is Clinton. He's a bombastic assclown, she's just another establishment candidate. Most people are alienated from both of them, which is exactly why we're having this conversation about who's the "lesser of two evils" every fucking day now, but they're the choices we've unfortunately been left with. And people don't like that. They're getting smart; the realize that when they've been left with a system that is forcing us to pick between the "lesser of two evils", clearly that system is not working in our best interests. And they want it to change. There's no consensus on how exactly to make it change-- you've got some people arguing that revolution is the road to go, and then you have others like Sanders who want to infiltrate it and destroy/reform it from within-- but it's pretty commonly agreed upon today that it needs to change.
[QUOTE]I've said this I don't know how many times before, but you cannot have this degree of anger and frustration combined with this much political polarization/identity politics in society and expect everything to continue like business as usual. You will have civil unrest eventually, it's inevitable-- it's only a question of how long it will take and what factor will finally set things off[/QUOTE]
Which is why I suggested to make new ideas to unify everyone and counter corporate might. To not do this is to risk civil war and blood shed. To keep clinging our current ideas of left and right will lead to death and loss of democracy.
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51209317]I think its he not the issue. Clinton is the issue. If the democrats fielded a better candidate (like Bernie) he wouldve been ignored.[/QUOTE]
No lol. Trump would have still rose to the level he is at now. The difference is that he would have been absolutely and unequivocally crushed from the beginning even without the "grab her by the pussy" tapes.
But in a way, Clinton IS the issue. The DNC should have avoided her like the plague. Instead, they pushed government corruption on a pedestal, fueling the fire. It's not the only factor, but it helped fan the flames.
[QUOTE]No lol. Trump would have still rose to the level he is at now. The difference is that he would have been absolutely and unequivocally crushed from the beginning even without the "grab her by the pussy" tapes.
But in a way, Clinton IS the issue. The DNC should have avoided her like the plague. Instead, they pushed government corruption on a pedestal, fueling the fire. It's not the only factor, but it helped fan the flames.[/QUOTE]
Close enough. In either case, you acknowledge corruption in both parties are the root of this shit show or at least a cause.
The reason this corruption thrives is due to identity politics and polarization between left and right. End polarization = end of corruption = no more shit shows.
Hm, I think I'll wear a Clinton-Kaine shirt when I go to the polls. Fuck these assholes and their intimidation tactics.
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