Trump’s supporters talk rebellion, assassination at his rallies - Polidicks

I hope the FBI arrest this Bowman guy. He's clearly not well in his head.

[QUOTE=Matthew0505;51209371]So when they start killing minorities we should just let them do it?[/QUOTE] In their view they think the left is is out to commit white genocide. Like I said, both sides are afraid shitless of each other. Its not helping.

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51209345]Which is why I suggested to make new ideas to unify everyone and counter corporate might. To not do this is to risk civil war and blood shed. To keep clinging our current ideas of left and right will lead to death and loss of democracy.[/QUOTE] The problem is that this idea can only be taken so far. You will never please everyone, you can only do what you can to please as many people/groups as possible. But that's not even happening. The establishment apparently isn't even trying to reform itself to save itself, or at least it's taking its dear sweet time. So in that case all we're left with at this point is an inevitable reckoning-- a situation where all these different groups are going to fight it out, and where some will come out victorious over the others in the end. Sad as it is, the left vs. right mentality isn't going anywhere. There's no popular figurehead who's honestly championing the mindset which you're proposing out there today. I'm not saying you're wrong, because you're not, and frankly I agree completely with you that it's sad we've come to this point when it could've and should've been prevented; I'm saying though that things have gotten so far out of hand and have become so polarized that there's no way we're going to be able at this rate to recover from it. Not unless we somehow manage to pull a 180*... but again, there's no signs of that happening, so that's that.

Jesus Christ, I don't like Trump but I don't want him dead. What the fuck is wrong with these people?

[QUOTE]The problem is that this idea can only be taken so far. You will never please everyone, you can only do what you can to please as many people/groups as possible. But that's not even happening. The establishment apparently isn't even trying to reform itself to save itself, or at least it's taking its dear sweet time. [/QUOTE] There are always ways to see a problem that you may not know of. saying its impossible isnt best. Like I said, begin brainstorming and try or accept the bloodshed. [QUOTE]What the fuck is wrong with these people?[/QUOTE] I have a theory all problems in the world are the result of crazy idiots. Both sides have crazy idiots.

[QUOTE=archangel125;51209039]Won't weep for any of the degenerates who get violent and get killed for it. The gene pool's better off without them, and they're only reaping what they would have sown.[/QUOTE] I don't want innocent people to die obviously. But we'd have to wait for these crazies to get older and die off to get rid of them. So if they do stupid things and get them selves killed or hurt then they're doing us all a favor. I just hope that the police officers and law abiding citizens stay safe.

[QUOTE=Electrocuter;51209111]Like they're not thinking rebellion or assassination because they've been oppressed for years in a dictatorship[/QUOTE] Not that I agree with the sentiment but I think Silence I Kill You's point was more or less to suggest that they feel as if they have been whether it's actually true or not. That's what really makes them an issue too is that they feel justified in their views.

[QUOTE]“I’ll look for . . . well, it’s called racial profiling. Mexicans. Syrians. People who can’t speak American,” he said. “I’m going to go right up behind them. I’ll do everything legally. I want to see if they are accountable. I’m not going to do anything illegal. I’m going to make them a little bit nervous.”[/QUOTE] nah fuck off you sociopath

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51209303]Let's be real here, he's not exactly a run of the mill presidential candidate. He's a little special, and not in a good way. The fact that he resonates so greatly with enough people that he actually made it to become a serious contender for president speaks to the extent of how large the sleeping dog is in this country. He could turn into Bernie tomorrow and the people who follow him today would not change in the slightest. They would just support someone else and continue.[/QUOTE] but the people who already thought that way probably had other influences before they landed on that mindset. political leanings aren't born out of thin air

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51209213]It goes both way sadly. Even the left-wing militias are arming.[/QUOTE] Left wing militia sounds like a oxymoron.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;51209462]Not that I agree with the sentiment but I think Silence I Kill You's point was more or less to suggest that they feel as if they have been whether it's actually true or not. That's what really makes them an issue too is that they feel justified in their views.[/QUOTE] A lot of them do because they've been increasingly ignored, dehumanized, or treated/talked about as if their opinions don't matter over the past few years. I might not agree, but from what I gather, it's the driving factor deep down. And a populace who does not feel represented in their government has no reason to abide by a social contract that says they will be. [QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51209489]but the people who already thought that way probably had other influences before they landed on that mindset. political leanings aren't born out of thin air[/QUOTE] Of course not, but I couldn't tell you where it starts. This type of extremism is not something you get from people just watching Fox News or hearing a speech from Trump. This is the kind of thinking that's a result of a long series of perceived slights, real or not. Imagine, if you will, a school full of people. In their eyes, they are those kids who are pushed around, made fun of, ignored, and not taken seriously. Some of these kids just try and keep up the best they can. Others snap and one day bring a weapon to school and try and take out as many people as they can because they are sick and tired of it, and nothing they do or say works. That's how these people think and feel when it comes to the politics of this country. Both parties are trying to push the other aside and work around each other instead of working together. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying that it's justified. I'm just trying to explain how it gets this far.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51209598]A lot of them do because they've been increasingly ignored, dehumanized, or treated/talked about as if their opinions don't matter over the past few years. I might not agree, but from what I gather, it's the driving factor deep down. And a populace who does not feel represented in their government has no reason to abide by a social contract that says they will be.[/QUOTE] They're only rarely dehumanized and typically by people that shouldn't be listened to in the first place. They've been ignored and treated like their opinions don't matter because they're pretty much globally based in ignorance and generalizations at best and active malicious intent at worst. So while it's understandable that they may feel that way with people not listening to their opinions it's not without good reason and regardless of whether they feel justified in their actions they are most certainly not. They shouldn't be pandered to just because they're making a stink. This applies to anyone on either side who has an idiotic opinion based in ignorance and so on.

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51209562]Left wing militia sounds like a oxymoron.[/QUOTE] I assume he means Antifa, which is a pretty fucked up organization.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;51209636]They're only rarely dehumanized and typically by people that shouldn't be listened to in the first place. They've been ignored and treated like their opinions don't matter because they're pretty much globally based in ignorance and generalizations at best and active malicious intent at worst. So while it's understandable that they may feel that way with people not listening to their opinions it's not without good reason and regardless of whether they feel justified in their actions they are most certainly not. They shouldn't be pandered to just because they're making a stink. This applies to anyone on either side who has an idiotic opinion based in ignorance and so on.[/QUOTE] Well, our government operates based on a social contract where people agree that the government is legitimate, and in return, their opinions are represented in this government. If their opinions are no longer represented, what justification do they have left to view the government as legitimate? When you start dismissing people and their opinions, you undermine the entire foundation our democratic republic is built upon.

Maybe their ideas are ignored because they're shitty ideas

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51209679]Well, our government operates based on a social contract where people agree that the government is legitimate, and in return, their opinions are represented in this government. If their opinions are no longer represented, what justification do they have left to view the government as legitimate? When you start dismissing people and their opinions, you undermine the entire foundation our democratic republic is built upon.[/QUOTE] You're explaining the exact opposite of democracy and defending the idea that once your ideas become fringe enough, extremist measures that run against democracy are warranted. If your opinions aren't being represented it's because the people around you disagreed, and the answer to that isn't shooting your neighbor because they ended their last Facebook post with #ImWithHer.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51209722]You're explaining the exact opposite of democracy and defending the idea that once your ideas become fringe enough, extremist measures that run against democracy are warranted. If your opinions aren't being represented it's because the people around you disagreed, and the answer to that isn't shooting your neighbor because they ended their last Facebook post with #ImWithHer.[/QUOTE] We're not a democracy. We're a democratic republic that is supposed to prevent tyranny of the majority and give minority opinions an even playing field. I never said that the answer was violence. I'm simply shining some light on how these people think. I also want to remind you that we're not talking about just a few thousand people here. We're talking about millions. Either way, just saying "deal with it" isn't going to help anything.

[QUOTE=postal;51208906]“I’ll look for . . . well, it’s called racial profiling. Mexicans. Syrians. People who can’t [B]speak American[/B],” lol its like the most ridiculous redneck American stereotype came to life[/QUOTE] While I agree there are plenty of idiots in all political camps, doesn't this blatant of parody maybe suggest to people that this didn't really happen? Or that it was at least embellished by the author?

[QUOTE=joshuadim;51209117]Had McCain ran this year, I would've voted for him, because he's one of the only decent republicans.[/QUOTE] I have massive respect for McCain. I don't agree with most of his policies, but he's just a good person and he's certainly qualified to run this country. He's a very smart man, and, yes, a war hero. [editline]16th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Destroyox;51208923]I'd like to see these Hicks try and rebel. They'd get crushed pretty easily. Honestly though it's sickening to see what political factionalism has done to this country. We should've listened to ol' Washington.[/QUOTE] I feel like another Whiskey Rebellion-style curbstomp would discourage people like this. Scary thought, but anti-intellectualism is something that is much more widespread than it should be, and it needs to be handled in some way or another (hopefully non-violently).

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51209761]We're not a democracy. We're a democratic republic that is supposed to prevent tyranny of the majority and give minority opinions an even playing field. I never said that the answer was violence. I'm simply shining some light on how these people think. I also want to remind you that we're not talking about just a few thousand people here. We're talking about millions. Either way, just saying "deal with it" isn't going to help anything.[/QUOTE] Minority opinions already have their even playing field. People with minority opinions get the same number of votes and the same rights of expression as people with majority opinions. What you're asking for isn't a level playing field, you're asking for some kind of ridiculous affirmative action program for racist lunatics that most people dislike and disagree with. Think about it for two seconds and imagine what kind of clusterfuck it would be if every arbitrary viewpoint was given equal political representation with every other viewpoint, it wouldn't resemble a functional democratic society in the slightest.

[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;51209907]Minority opinions already have their even playing field. People with minority opinions get the same number of votes and the same rights of expression as people with majority opinions. What you're asking for isn't a level playing field, you're asking for some kind of ridiculous affirmative action program for racist lunatics that most people dislike and disagree with. Think about it for two seconds and imagine what kind of clusterfuck it would be if every arbitrary viewpoint was given equal political representation with every other viewpoint, it wouldn't resemble a functional democratic society in the slightest.[/QUOTE] We already have the system, and it's designed to keep a majority from dragging the minority along like a puppy, or from instituting laws against the minority. It's just that nowadays, senators seem more keen to work around the opposition than with the opposition, making everything harder and more clusterfucky.

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51209562]Left wing militia sounds like a oxymoron.[/QUOTE] [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_faction_(Spanish_Civil_War)]Viva la quince brigada?[/url] I have never heard of the existence of left-wing militias in the US, though. Are they a thing?

[QUOTE=phaedon;51209974][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_faction_(Spanish_Civil_War)]Viva la quince brigada?[/url] I have never heard of the existence of left-wing militias in the US, though. Are they a thing?[/QUOTE] Most of them are either anarchist communes or groups that exist on the concept of environmentalist. For example, you have groups the Animal Liberation Front, which is notorious for is bombing campaigns. Most of them are nowhere near as organized as the Oathkeepers, USCrow, Watchmen, ect... But they tend to do more terrorist attacks and damage in comparison to the right.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51209994]Most of them are either anarchist communes or groups that exist on the concept of environmentalist. For example, you have groups the Animal Liberation Front, which is notorious for is bombing campaigns. Most of them are nowhere near as organized as the Oathkeepers, USCrow, Watchmen, ect... But they tend to do more terrorist attacks and damage in comparison to the right.[/QUOTE] Ah, that explains it. I wouldn't classify eco-terrorists or run-of-the-mill antifas as paramilitary groups, though. They don't operate like a fighting force.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;51209929]nah that doesn't fit the preferred SH narrative that anyone who votes for Trump is a literal idiot who blindly supports all forms of xenophobia, racism, sexism and "keeping poor people down." But that whole story falls apart when you think that at least 30% of the people who vote will vote for Trump because there is no way this country would function if that stupid stereotype were actually true about the entirety of his voter base. No one is gonna question if it's embellished cause they don't care.[/QUOTE] You vastly overestimate human intelligence and anti-intellectual sentiments. Also it's pretty hilarious how you automatically assume this article is total bullshit simply because it makes Trump supporters look stupid, lol. Like the media actually has to go out of their way to make them look worse than they are.

Honestly, I just want to curl up in a ball and cry because I'm terrified. I don't know who to vote for anymore or what to do or even if I should vote. Things have gotten too overwhelming for me.

Damn. watching mccain say that really makes my heart sink over what republicans are now. [editline]16th October 2016[/editline] I'm not voting. Fuck them all.

[QUOTE=Amplar;51210100]Damn. watching mccain say that really makes my heart sink over what republicans are now. [editline]16th October 2016[/editline] I'm not voting. Fuck them all.[/QUOTE] Having a black president for 8 years kind of fucked with the GOP, their subtle racism became much more obvious and their strong opposition to Obama basically defined who they were, so they have to cling to that strategy and pander to narcissistic baby-boomers that hate foreigners because libertarianism is finally starting to gain a little bit of traction.

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51210121]Having a black president for 8 years kind of fucked with the GOP, their subtle racism became much more obvious and their strong opposition to Obama basically defined who they were, so they have to cling to that strategy and pander to narcissistic baby-boomers that hate foreigners because libertarianism is finally starting to gain a little bit of traction.[/QUOTE] yes, i'm sure all of the republican senators hate obama for being black, rather than for being a democrat president

[QUOTE=Judas;51209019]this is entirely trump's fault, he openly supports the insane people in his voter base that support assasinating enemies and armed revolution when they don't get their way compare this to the GOP's nominee eight years ago; [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRq6Y4NmB6U[/media][/QUOTE] While I obviously disagree with much of his policy, I have always found McCain to be a very respectable man.