Halo Bootcamp Leaked, a PC Game, Microsoft Confirms. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=ultradude25;40776309]You call requiring an account DRM? There's quite a few games on steam that can be run without having steam running, you only need an account to buy and download them initially. If that counts as DRM then I guess all those DRM free games on gog.com are actually lying, since you need an account with GOG to buy and download them.[/QUOTE] Digital Rights Management = DRM =/= Bad AntiPiracy I mean nobody seems to remember that DRM isn't a policy itself, it's literally just the term for the concept that a lot of "DRM" policies are focused on Anyway, Steam is inherently a digital rights manager. And yes, requiring an account is an example of digital rights management, because you're forgetting that owning an account entails installing the Steam program, going through its store, and downloading + authenticating a game through its servers. After that, you're allowed to play some games offline, but you're going to have to run the program in offline mode first--the point is, the games are routed through and protected by the program. GOG only requires an account for the website, after which they give you the installer and you're free to go. No mandatory program to install, no authentication. I like Steam a lot. It suits my position in the game consumer base very well, so I'm partial to it. But it is a form of DRM, and we shouldn't forget that. If you're comfortable with the way Steam works, but you hate other companies' DRM, then familiarize yourself with what makes Steam different, and you'll find why it's better than most. It's not a tyrannical DRM enforcer, but you shouldn't ignore that it's still under the broad leaf of DRM.

[QUOTE=Mr. Tripp;40770415] Release Halo 3 in a disc [b]without DRM[/b] and then [b]put it on STEAM.[/b][/QUOTE] lol

[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;40781244]lol[/QUOTE] I know you're thinking it's an oxymoron but he's not saying give it Steamworks he's saying release it on steam but also release it on the disk and places like GMG without DRM.

[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;40781277]I know you're thinking it's an oxymoron but he's not saying give it Steamworks he's saying release it on steam but also release it on the disk and places like GMG without DRM.[/QUOTE] srry i didnt realise there was more than 1 page

[QUOTE=ultradude25;40776309]You call requiring an account DRM? There's quite a few games on steam that can be run without having steam running, you only need an account to buy and download them initially. If that counts as DRM then I guess all those DRM free games on gog.com are actually lying, since you need an account with GOG to buy and download them.[/QUOTE] What games are those? I've literally never downloaded a game from Steam, and being able to run it without having Steam running. You''re probably right if you say so, but I've never personally encountered it. And what DChapsfield said.

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;40771987]Nope, that's actually the ODST PC launch date[/QUOTE] i forgot that even existed tbh

[QUOTE=DChapsfield;40777901]Digital Rights Management = DRM =/= Bad AntiPiracy I mean nobody seems to remember that DRM isn't a policy itself, it's literally just the term for the concept that a lot of "DRM" policies are focused on Anyway, Steam is inherently a digital rights manager. And yes, requiring an account is an example of digital rights management, because you're forgetting that owning an account entails installing the Steam program, going through its store, and downloading + authenticating a game through its servers. After that, you're allowed to play some games offline, but you're going to have to run the program in offline mode first--the point is, the games are routed through and protected by the program. GOG only requires an account for the website, after which they give you the installer and you're free to go. No mandatory program to install, no authentication. I like Steam a lot. It suits my position in the game consumer base very well, so I'm partial to it. But it is a form of DRM, and we shouldn't forget that. If you're comfortable with the way Steam works, but you hate other companies' DRM, then familiarize yourself with what makes Steam different, and you'll find why it's better than most. It's not a tyrannical DRM enforcer, but you shouldn't ignore that it's still under the broad leaf of DRM.[/QUOTE] So requiring a program to be initially installed and then authenticating is what is the DRM? I guess the one time authentication makes sense as DRM, but I don't really get the program install. It's just a download manager at that point. [QUOTE=GoDong-DK;40781561]What games are those? I've literally never downloaded a game from Steam, and being able to run it without having Steam running. You''re probably right if you say so, but I've never personally encountered it. And what DChapsfield said.[/QUOTE] There's a list here: [url]http://www.gog.com/forum/general/list_of_drmfree_games_on_steam/page1[/url] I don't know how up-to-date that list is, but out of the games on that list that I own and have installed, I can confirm that Bastion and Legend of Grimrock allow me to run the exe directly without having steam running.

[QUOTE=ultradude25;40782489]So requiring a program to be initially installed and then authenticating is what is the DRM? I guess the one time authentication makes sense as DRM, but I don't really get the program install. It's just a download manager at that point. There's a list here: [url]http://www.gog.com/forum/general/list_of_drmfree_games_on_steam/page1[/url] I don't know how up-to-date that list is, but out of the games on that list that I own and have installed, I can confirm that Bastion and Legend of Grimrock allow me to run the exe directly without having steam running.[/QUOTE] That's a pretty short list, though. Let's just say that the vast majority of games require Steam to be running. And about the program: With GOG I'm pretty sure (it's been some time since I bought something from them) you can just download the installer and then copy it to a different computer and whatnot. With Steam, you'd have to install the program on that exact computer in order to install it.

[QUOTE=darth-veger;40770099]If you have Halo 3 then you are all settled, then you have the complete true Halo series. Maybe Halo Reach as well but Halo 3 for sure.[/QUOTE] Halo Reach isn't really mandatory for your understanding of the series. Halo 1/2/3 is really a self contained story.