Tripping on shrooms effective in treating anxiety, new study suggests - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Pepin;24705029]H sounds like it could be interesting[/QUOTE] nope i almost died from it and a close friend of mine did die from it

Ah sounds sucky. There was a pretty good well known athlete around here who died from it. One reason why I've never wanted to get into harder drugs, but there is a curiosity about what they're like.

do it once, never do it again though that's easier said than done

H is a heavy drug, but it's tolls on the body itself aren't so terrible. Still, after having done it a LOT, I would not recommend it unless you're prescribed it for pain. And it does sound like you missed out on your LSD trip. Mine changed a lot of things. [editline]12:22AM[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;24705113]do it once, never do it again though that's easier said than done[/QUOTE] It's not instantly addictive, so this is quite possible.

[QUOTE=thisispain;24704809]that sounds like a lie i was none of those things while on LSD, i was only paranoid and became more paranoid [editline]11:36PM[/editline] you guys are hyping drugs up way more than it should be hyped i've tried a lot of drugs and it just made problems for me[/QUOTE] it's not a lie just because it hasn't happened to you. Those things did happen to me, especially creativity, you just had a bad trip

as far as i remember, most of the ideas i came up with while on drugs were shite in fact, i was part of a noise-rock band, go figure

[QUOTE=CivilProtection;24706063]it's not a lie just because it hasn't happened to you. Those things did happen to me, especially creativity, you just had a bad trip[/QUOTE] If you can have bad trips then it's not as harmless as they say.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;24709957]If you can have bad trips then it's not as harmless as they say.[/QUOTE] it's physically not damaging. Bad trips are avoidable however, you just have to plan correctly.

[QUOTE]"They're not substances that should be used recreationally or casually, but nonetheless it appears that we can conduct research with these compounds safely," [/QUOTE] Who exactly does some people on shrooms harm, it in no way damages society and is, to all intents a victimless crime.

[QUOTE=MovingSalad;24664514]Psilocybin, the active hallucinogenic chemical found in 'shrooms', can be used in minute doses to cure Migraine headaches. To this date we do not have many different prescriptions that combat the pain brought on by migraines, but yet the legality of psilocybin remains the same.[/QUOTE] Wait... seriously? Cool.

Time to take some mushrooms

Legalize illegal drugs.

[QUOTE=SnakeHead;24719161]Legalize illegal drugs.[/QUOTE] There's no reason not to. You really have to ask yourself "is this the right thing to do?" when saying keep them illegal. Why? If the god damn drug dealers selling the fucking things say "Keep it illegal", you probably have a problem on your hands, that and the fact you can't stop the sale or consumption of these things and it's also a total violation of human rights.

I still don't understand why psychedelics are illegal. Can anyone tell me their main motive?

[QUOTE=johnnyIERB;24728387]I still don't understand why psychedelics are illegal. Can anyone tell me their main motive?[/QUOTE] Most likely because tobacco, alcohol, and pharmaceutical lobbyists pay the government to keep them illegal because they know they'd be put out of business if cannabis, psilocybin mushrooms, or any other psychoactive became legal. Really, other than that, I cannot think of a single logical reason to keep them illegal.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24711493]it's physically not damaging. Bad trips are avoidable however, you just have to plan correctly.[/QUOTE] As much as I agree with you on physically harmful part, I have heard of a few cases where people have gotten themselves killed on LSD due to thinking they can fly etc. [editline]05:18PM[/editline] [QUOTE=lemongrapes;24713128]Who exactly does some people on shrooms harm, it in no way damages society and is, to all intents a victimless crime.[/QUOTE] I'm not entirely sure how intense shrooms are, however it is possible that it could lead a person to believe another person is a monster or something, and try to kill them. [editline]05:18PM[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24719273]There's no reason not to. You really have to ask yourself "is this the right thing to do?" when saying keep them illegal. Why? If the god damn drug dealers selling the fucking things say "Keep it illegal", you probably have a problem on your hands, that and the fact you can't stop the sale or consumption of these things and it's also a total violation of human rights.[/QUOTE] It's not a violation of human right at all.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;24731449]As much as I agree with you on physically harmful part, I have heard of a few cases where people have gotten themselves killed on LSD due to thinking they can fly etc. [editline]05:18PM[/editline] I'm not entirely sure how intense shrooms are, however it is possible that it could lead a person to believe another person is a monster or something, and try to kill them. [editline]05:18PM[/editline] It's not a violation of human right at all.[/QUOTE] People also drive cars and kill others, yet we don't revoke the privilege of everyone to drive just because of that. Why is taking a drug(One that can only kill you, you're still responsible for your actions whilst high) any different? At least you aren't in a car that can kill many other people. Not really possible. PCP, MAYBE then, still unlikely. You aren't likely to do anything like that on most drugs, and if you did, it's still your fault. The chances of such a thing are ridiculous. Okay... I guess you're happy the government owns the rights to your body. If that's not a rights violation, what is?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24733664]People also drive cars and kill others, yet we don't revoke the privilege of everyone to drive just because of that. Why is taking a drug(One that can only kill you, you're still responsible for your actions whilst high) any different? At least you aren't in a car that can kill many other people. Not really possible. PCP, MAYBE then, still unlikely. You aren't likely to do anything like that on most drugs, and if you did, it's still your fault. The chances of such a thing are ridiculous. Okay... I guess you're happy the government owns the rights to your body. If that's not a rights violation, what is?[/QUOTE] The benefits of cars far out weigh the problems. this isn't the case for drugs. I believe that the government should not be allowing harmful substances to be dealt out to the populace, it will cause problems. The government aren't dictating what you do with your body, they're just dictating what should be released to the public and what shouldn't. I mean to be honest I'm not entirely sure on the effects of shrooms and how intense it's it's effects are, however LSD and the likes can do some mad shit to your head.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;24737216]The benefits of cars far out weigh the problems. this isn't the case for drugs. I believe that the government should not be allowing harmful substances to be dealt out to the populace, it will cause problems.[/QUOTE] And my opinion is that if the government can tell you what you can, and can't do to your own body, you don't own your body and that's wrong. You're ignorant to think that too. You want to know something? Portugual had the worst drug problem seen. They fought it all the time and it just kept getting worse. Then they legalized almost all drugs. And the drug problem went away. It became easy to deal with. If you'd [b]stop ignoring me when I say, legalizing will help stop the drug problem[/b] maybe you'd get somewhere. What? Do you REALLY think banning a substance thusly creating a black market is going to work?! Prohibition, prostitution bans, etc, banning shit doesn't work. You're wasting time, money, and violating rights for what? You're "idea" that we're fucked if drugs get out(They're already out and spread more common than legalization could spread them) or some moral opposition to it? Try actually thinking.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24737313]And my opinion is that if the government can tell you what you can, and can't do to your own body, you don't own your body and that's wrong. You're ignorant to think that too. You want to know something? Portugual had the worst drug problem seen. They fought it all the time and it just kept getting worse. Then they legalized almost all drugs. And the drug problem went away. It became easy to deal with. If you'd [B]stop ignoring me when I say, legalizing will help stop the drug problem[/B] maybe you'd get somewhere. What? Do you REALLY think banning a substance thusly creating a black market is going to work?! Prohibition, prostitution bans, etc, banning shit doesn't work. You're wasting time, money, and violating rights for what? You're "idea" that we're fucked if drugs get out(They're already out and spread more common than legalization could spread them) or some moral opposition to it? Try actually thinking.[/QUOTE] Thats what the government are there to do, to tell everyone what to do and keep said people safe. As for your second point I'm really not sure, I have heard about Portugal and yes I do to some degree agree, however I'm sure they didn't legalize hallucinogenic drugs.

So this only works with blue caps, it doesn't work with other hallucinogens that sucks.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;24737447]Thats what the government are there to do, to tell everyone what to do and keep said people safe. As for your second point I'm really not sure, I have heard about Portugal and yes I do to some degree agree, however I'm sure they didn't legalize hallucinogenic drugs.[/QUOTE] Yes they did. That's the point. Hallucinogenics don't make you kill people. They can't make you do that, you could still choose to, but I find it unlikely. Drug horror stories like that are few and far between and are RARELY solely the drugs fault(As in, underlaying and latent conditions the drug is known to fuck with.) Yeah, sure that's the government job, but "keeping drugs off the street" isn't keeping people safe, it's just costing some people rights. How about you explain why we keep them illegal when making them illegal doesn't make them go away, just makes them more common? What's the logic? You want to "crackdown" harder? It doesn't work. You can't stop the proliferation of the black market and crime, there will always be crime. You're not stopping the spread by keeping it illegal, as I said, quite the opposite.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;24737447]Thats what the government are there to do, to tell everyone what to do and keep said people safe. As for your second point I'm really not sure, I have heard about Portugal and yes I do to some degree agree, however I'm sure they didn't legalize hallucinogenic drugs.[/QUOTE] The government is ridiculously dumb when it comes to legislation. We have people who are in power who have are making decisions that are more influenced by their base supporters. If you'd like the believe that there are decisions made solely on logic then you're fooling yourself.

[QUOTE=Pepin;24739282]The government is ridiculously dumb when it comes to legislation. We have people who are in power who have are making decisions that are more influenced by their base supporters. If you'd like the believe that there are decisions made solely on logic then you're fooling yourself.[/QUOTE] The government isn't in the position to deal with this due to the amount of misinformation they push out.