[QUOTE=RichyZ;39000322]the guy with the artist is better because at least the art piece is going to be taken care of by the artist, wherein the guns are just crushed and landfill'd[/QUOTE]
No, the "artist" melted it down and smashed it to death with a hammer, then welded it to a coffin made out of other guns. They're destroying relics either way.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39000303]Somebodies grandfather lugged that MP40 home from Germany, and the fucker who received it as an heirloom couldn't even appreciate it, so they traded it for a 100$ applebees gift card. Fuck that guy. Reminds me of the guy who let an "artist" melt down his fathers 1911 he carried during WWII to be used in some BS art piece.[/QUOTE]
WHEN WILL THOSE WACKY ARTISTS EVER LEARN ALL I WANT IS TEAM FORTRESS HENTAI
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39000297]But they don't have to destroy them. They can sell them back to a state-armory, or have them shipped elsewhere over the country.[/quote]
but the whole point is to get rid of these guns. the state has access to whatever armanents they need pretty much, they don't need to get some second-hand civilian guns.
guns with historical value are of course unfortunate to see go, but the majority of them aren't valuable in any way.
[quote]I bet all 1962 of those guns weren't involved in any crime.[/QUOTE]
that's beside the point. most of those guns were probably unwanted and sitting around either picking up dust or being a hazard to whatever family lived around them. there is no reason to have these guns around, they should be recycled into something useful.
[QUOTE=laserguided;39000308]The guy in the first and second picture reminded me of Joseph Stalin for some reason.[/QUOTE]
I do hate LAPD's Police Chief. Beck's a douche.
Also, apparently that's not even a spent AT4 casing, it's actually the mockup soldiers use for training. All it has is a 9mm barrel that fires a tracer.
[IMG]http://gunbuyback.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/thumb2_la-rocket-launcher-by-nick-ut-639.jpg[/IMG]
Upside down, in black, between the two black bands, it says "TRAINER"
Crap, it is an M1...
Seeing the M1 and the MP40 especially really pulls at me.
The Garand could probably fetch ~700-1000 at a gunshow and the MP40 is worth considerably much more...
Who ever turned in either of those is a fucking idiot.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;39000331]How can you not understand how much of a waste this is?
You've probably never even owned weapons...[/QUOTE]
can we nto forget that the owner of these guns who according to u understand how much these are worth willingly sold these weapons? he very well knew the intent of the people who he sold it to
Not surprised really, my dad found a few machine guns in his Dad's garage while he and his friends were cleaning it out for him, he didn't even know. You'd be surprised what you can find laying around if you look hard enough.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;39000331]How can you not understand how much of a waste this is?
You've probably never even owned weapons...[/QUOTE]
the police have every right to do a conductive buyback
and thanks for the white blur ad-hominem
Christ.
I wanna buy all those guns and dedicate a small room to them in my house
[QUOTE=latin_geek;39000348]Also, apparently that's not even a spent AT4 casing, it's actually the mockup soldiers use for training. All it has is a 9mm barrel that fires a tracer.
[IMG]http://gunbuyback.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/thumb2_la-rocket-launcher-by-nick-ut-639.jpg[/IMG]
Upside down, in black, between the two black bands, it says "TRAINER"[/QUOTE]
That's one over glorified glock.
[QUOTE=Dachande;39000253]once again, its politics
destroying these 'vile weapons' and creating a clean environment for everyone in la oozes more fervor than having the government be a middleman to putting them back on the streets
how do u not see this[/QUOTE]
Let's not forget California Sen. Dianne Feinstein is the mastermind behind the current AWB legislation. And the one who pushed for this 'vile weapon' "cleansing."
[QUOTE=Ownederd;39000381]the police have every right to do a conductive buyback
and thanks for the white blur ad-hominem[/QUOTE]
You're missing our point or are ignoring it. We understand they have every right to do this, and we're not contesting or denying that. They have every right to destroy those firearms, or melt them down into scrap, we're just saying it's dumb and wasteful. Theres so much profit to be made reselling these rifles. Each one of those AK's (assuming they're legal) can go for upwards of 500-1,000$ in the current economy, destroying them is just wasteful.
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;39000392]That's one over glorified glock.[/QUOTE]
I do believe you mean AK47
I saw a G3 Navy model on that table
I can tell you right now that gun is minimum $1500, all those AK's like $5-600 a piece and that fucking M1 Garand is all ready a historical piece plus it's worth around $1100 or so. And those are just the guns I saw. I think I see a K98 too
This kind of shit makes me so angry
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39000410]You're missing our point or are ignoring it. We understand they have every right to do this, and we're not contesting or denying that. They have every right to destroy those firearms, or melt them down into scrap, we're just saying it's dumb and wasteful. Theres so much profit to be made reselling these rifles. Each one of those AK's (assuming they're legal) can go for upwards of 500-1,000$ in the current economy, destroying them is just wasteful.[/QUOTE]
this completely downplays the purpose of a buyback
[QUOTE=Jmir 54;39000385]Christ.
I wanna buy all those guns and dedicate a small room to them in my house[/QUOTE]
Do a gun buyback ad on craigslist. Im sure if cali has this many retards willing to get 100 dollars for a gun im sure an ad on craigslist may yield some interesting results. Hell where I live they did a guns for kicks program where you turned in a gun and got a pair of shoes.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39000410]You're missing our point or are ignoring it. We understand they have every right to do this, and we're not contesting or denying that. They have every right to destroy those firearms, or melt them down into scrap, we're just saying it's dumb and wasteful. Theres so much profit to be made reselling these rifles. Each one of those AK's (assuming they're legal) can go for upwards of 500-1,000$ in the current economy, destroying them is just wasteful.[/QUOTE]
agfja it's not wasteful because that's what they intended to do with them! the whole idea is get rid of guns, not "make a profit in the arms industry."
they want less guns around because they feel that less unwanted guns will correlate with a safer community.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;39000417]this completely downplays the purpose of a buyback[/QUOTE]
The purpose of the buy back is to take firearms and illegal off the street of people who shouldn't own them, or can't legally own them. Whats the big deal if they're sold back to people who can legally own them?
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39000410]You're missing our point or are ignoring it. We understand they have every right to do this, and we're not contesting or denying that. They have every right to destroy those firearms, or melt them down into scrap, we're just saying it's dumb and wasteful. Theres so much profit to be made reselling these rifles. Each one of those AK's (assuming they're legal) can go for upwards of 500-1,000$ in the current economy, destroying them is just wasteful.[/QUOTE]
ur missing mine. the intention isn't to generate revenue, its politics.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39000435]The purpose of the buy back is to take firearms and illegal off the street of people who shouldn't own them, or can't legally own them. Whats the big deal if they're sold back to people who can legally own them?[/QUOTE]
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[quote=yawmwen]agfja it's not wasteful because that's what they intended to do with them! the whole idea is get rid of guns, not "make a profit in the arms industry."
they want less guns around because they feel that less unwanted guns will correlate with a safer community.[/quote]
You could blow up an entire building with an empty tube.
trust me i've seen it
[QUOTE=Dachande;39000442]ur missing mine. the intention isn't to generate revenue, its politics.[/QUOTE]
I've said this before. [b]I. Understand[/b]. I get the point of this buy back, I realize what it's trying to do, I know exactly what the intention of the people behind the buyback is.
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[QUOTE=yawmwen;39000432]agfja it's not wasteful because that's what they intended to do with them! the whole idea is get rid of guns, not "make a profit in the arms industry."
they want less guns around because they feel that less unwanted guns will correlate with a safer community.[/QUOTE]
The arms industry wouldn't be turning a profit, the state or local government would. They're trying to pull guns off the street from people who can't legally own them, or shouldn't own them. Whats the big deal if a person wants to legally buy it and will use it safely?
If they do a gun buyback here I'm going to wait outside the door and offer like $50 more than they're offering for as many guns as I can afford
[QUOTE=Ownederd;39000381]the police have every right to do a conductive buyback
and thanks for the white blur ad-hominem[/QUOTE]
There was no argument, just a statement, therefor not an Ad-Hominem.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39000457]I've said this before. [b]I. Understand[/b]. I get the point of this buy back, I realize what it's trying to do, I know exactly what the intention of the people behind the buyback is.[/QUOTE]
then why r u wrong? this is the purpose of a buyback
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39000432]agfja it's not wasteful because that's what they intended to do with them! the whole idea is get rid of guns, not "make a profit in the arms industry."
they want less guns around because they feel that less unwanted guns will correlate with a safer community.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39000457]
The arms industry wouldn't be turning a profit, the state or local government would. They're trying to pull guns off the street from people who can't legally own them, or shouldn't own them. Whats the big deal if a person wants to legally buy it and will use it safely?[/QUOTE]
because it defeats the purpose of getting guns off the streets.
i mean you can argue that less guns on the streets doesn't correlate with lower crime or vice versa, but that doesn't change the point of the buy back and why reselling the guns completely defeats that point.
personally i only care that an mp40 and other historical relics are being melted down. the rest of those guns are misfits who were unwanted by their owners and should be recycled.
[QUOTE=Dachande;39000493]then why r u wrong? this is the purpose of a buyback[/QUOTE]
1. Type like someone who's older than 10
2. He isn't "wrong", he said he understood everything you said, and also stated that the arms industry would NOT make a profit
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39000410]You're missing our point or are ignoring it. We understand they have every right to do this, and we're not contesting or denying that. They have every right to destroy those firearms, or melt them down into scrap, we're just saying it's dumb and wasteful. Theres so much profit to be made reselling these rifles. Each one of those AK's (assuming they're legal) can go for upwards of 500-1,000$ in the current economy, destroying them is just wasteful.[/QUOTE]
forget the profit
It should be a crime to destroy something like an M16A1 or a Sten, can't they just render them unusable or something? Like pour metal into them or someshit. At least keep them as decoration, as heretical as that sounds.
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