[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39000508]1. Type like someone who's older than 10
2. He isn't "wrong", he said he understood everything you said, and also stated that the arms industry would NOT make a profit[/QUOTE]
ok well um heres the kicker hes ignoring everything were saying about it not being about the money or anything and about playing on the public's sense of safety
thanks for ignoring my points too and choosing to respond to something as stupid and baseless as letters on a screen :-)
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;39000479]There was no argument, just a statement, therefor not an Ad-Hominem.[/QUOTE]
thx for the update dude, but your initial post was useless to begin with; i used to own a imported .22 rifle from canada that was given to me by my dad's father but i had to get rid of it for personal safety reasons; several people i live with were on suicide watch for a while and i didn't want my .22 rattling a piece of lead in their brains
[QUOTE=GunFox;39000260][img]http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5588/use1.jpg[/img]
An M16A1, the remains of a Sten, and what looks like an MP40 in the back there. :([/QUOTE]
That's not an M16A1 at all, it's a Colt model 604
not common guns at all, worth several thousand (probably in the neighborhood of 25k for auto or 8k for semi) if it's not a reproduction
[QUOTE=Dachande;39000525]ok well um heres the kicker hes ignoring everything were saying about it not being about the money or anything and about playing on the public's sense of safety
thanks for ignoring my points too and choosing to respond to something as stupid and baseless as letters on a screen :-)[/QUOTE]
You're ignoring literally [b]EVERYTHING[/b] I've said about how I understand it's not about turning a fucking profit. I understand how it's about getting firearms away from people not responsible enough to own them. It's like you're ignoring the parts where I say "I get it" and just skipping to the other parts. Honestly, are you drunk? I understand the intention of the buy back, I'm just saying give us [b] legal. and. safe. firearms owners. [/b] a chance to buy back the [b]legal[/b] rifles.
[editline]28th December 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39000507]because it defeats the purpose of getting guns off the streets.
i mean you can argue that less guns on the streets doesn't correlate with lower crime or vice versa, but that doesn't change the point of the buy back and why reselling the guns completely defeats that point.
personally i only care that an mp40 and other historical relics are being melted down. the rest of those guns are misfits who were unwanted by their owners and should be recycled.[/QUOTE]
Selling firearms to people through an FFL dealer (backround check process and depending on the state, permits) does not put guns back on the street.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39000542]
Selling firearms to people through an FFL dealer (backround check process and depending on the state, permits) does not put guns back on the street.[/QUOTE]
yea it does. "on the streets" means it's in the general population.
the point is to get those guns out of the general population; to lower the number of guns owned in the area they are doing the buyback.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;39000526]thx for the update dude, but your initial post was useless to begin with; i used to own a imported .22 rifle from canada that was given to me by my dad's father but i had to get rid of it for personal safety reasons; several people i live with were on suicide watch for a while and i didn't want my .22 rattling a piece of lead in their brains[/QUOTE]
Why were you living with a bunch of suicidal people?
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39000542]You're ignoring literally [b]EVERYTHING[/b] I've said about how I understand it's not about turning a fucking profit. I understand how it's about getting firearms away from people not responsible enough to own them. It's like you're ignoring the parts where I say "I get it" and just skipping to the other parts. Honestly, are you drunk? I understand the intention of the buy back, I'm just saying give us [b] legal. and. safe. firearms owners. [/b] a chance to buy back the [b]legal[/b] rifles.
[editline]28th December 2012[/editline]
Selling firearms to people through an FFL dealer (backround check process and depending on the state, permits) does not put guns back on the street.[/QUOTE]
hey pal dont bust a nut but re-read my posts because u missed the part where i talked about the act of destroying guns being almost a symbolic act to generate positive publicity
its not about getting guns away from people who are unstable, its about getting guns away from everyone. if the owners of these guns wanted to sell them to other gun owners they would have - its obvious they could get more money from it ( from what u guys are telling me ) they consciously chose to have them destroyed. its not ur decision
not only do u have the intention of a buyback completely wrong u are arguing for the completely wrong points and i dont think u kno what ur talking about dude.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;39000570]Why were you living with a bunch of suicidal people?[/QUOTE]
stop
[QUOTE=Ownederd;39000526]thx for the update dude, but your initial post was useless to begin with; i used to own a imported .22 rifle from canada that was given to me by my dad's father but i had to get rid of it for personal safety reasons; several people i live with were on suicide watch for a while and i didn't want my .22 rattling a piece of lead in their brains[/QUOTE]
you could try not living with people who are actively attempting to kill themselves
I frankly don't give a shit about most of the shit they bought back, but it really saddens me when they destroy historical pieces.
[QUOTE=Kasuga Ayumu;39000470]If they do a gun buyback here I'm going to wait outside the door and offer like $50 more than they're offering for as many guns as I can afford[/QUOTE]
Some guy on a blog I was reading a while back did this in when they had a buy back in his town. It turns out most people aren't interested in the money cause they actually think they are helping "solve crime". Then the cops came outside and asked him to leave, they don't really care for people trying to buy guns at a buy back. Who would have guessed?
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;39000570]Why were you living with a bunch of suicidal people?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kasuga Ayumu;39000586]you could try not living with people who are actively attempting to kill themselves[/QUOTE]
very open minded comments from people who understand the big issues being discussed here ( hint thats not even the solution to that problem. u cant lable suicidal people as being ' suicidal people '. they're people. you're reaching and not only is it insensitive its downright stupid. it reflects who u are. )
[QUOTE=Ownederd;39000583]stop[/QUOTE]
That's a legitimate question dude.
On topic though, god damn I would have loved the chance to get some of those guns. Take out like a thousand dollars get yourself like 5 or 6 good guns. That would be so awesome.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;39000526]thx for the update dude, but your initial post was useless to begin with; i used to own a imported .22 rifle from canada that was given to me by my dad's father but i had to get rid of it for personal safety reasons; several people i live with were on suicide watch for a while and i didn't want my .22 rattling a piece of lead in their brains[/QUOTE]
okay
you're a prime example of someone who shouldn't be a gun owner
what's next
[QUOTE=Dachande;39000580]hey pal dont bust a nut but re-read my posts because u missed the part where i talked about the act of destroying guns being almost a symbolic act to generate positive publicity
its not about getting guns away from people who are unstable, its about getting guns away from everyone. if the owners of these guns wanted to sell them to other gun owners they would have - its obvious they could get more money from it ( from what u guys are telling me ) they consciously chose to have them destroyed. its not ur decision
not only do u have the intention of a buyback completely wrong u are arguing for the completely wrong points and i dont think u kno what ur talking about dude.[/QUOTE]
It's almost as if you're not even reading my posts, and you're just replying with piss poor grammar.
This reminds me of that one story on here about the police station that did a buyback and preserved the STG-44 that someone tried to turn in. Hopefully those guns were there for the media and just for the sake of variety, and that someone in the entire force realized the value and historical significance of those weapons.
You guys act like police don't know anything about historical guns.
[URL]http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/valuable-wwii-gun-police-buy-back-022155231--abc-news-topstories.html[/URL]
[quote]"We did not take the gun in for the gun buy-back program," Crabtree said. "If we took it as part of the buy-back, we would have no choice but to destroy the gun. We don't want to destroy that gun."[/quote]
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;39000597]That's a legitimate question dude.
On topic though, god damn I would have loved the chance to get some of those guns. Take out like a thousand dollars get yourself like 5 or 6 good guns. That would be so awesome.[/QUOTE]
i'm sorry but i love how you ask a overly personal question then go over to talking about how much you fantasize over historical firearms
i'm gonna say this in the least offensive way possible; you are borderline socially inept and you don't know the issue from the point of view of the person you're talking to
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39000617]It's almost as if you're not even reading my posts, and you're just replying with piss poor grammar.[/QUOTE]
yea dude my grammar is the issue here
[QUOTE=Tippmann357;39000622]You guys act like police don't know anything about historical guns.
[url]http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/valuable-wwii-gun-police-buy-back-022155231--abc-news-topstories.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Hopefully that's the case...
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39000507]because it defeats the purpose of getting guns off the streets.
i mean you can argue that less guns on the streets doesn't correlate with lower crime or vice versa, but that doesn't change the point of the buy back and why reselling the guns completely defeats that point.
personally i only care that an mp40 and other historical relics are being melted down. the rest of those guns are misfits who were unwanted by their owners and should be recycled.[/QUOTE]
Then sell them to people out of state or out of that county, I don't give a shit. It's just massive waste to earn a weeks worth of applause from the public.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;39000636]i'm sorry but i love how you ask a overly personal question then go over to talking about how much you fantasize over historical firearms[/QUOTE]
I'd like both sides to stop throwing ad hominems around please.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;39000526]thx for the update dude, but your initial post was useless to begin with; i used to own a imported .22 rifle from canada that was given to me by my dad's father but i had to get rid of it for personal safety reasons; several people i live with were on suicide watch for a while and i didn't want my .22 rattling a piece of lead in their brains[/QUOTE]
CPAP tubing ($5) + CPAP Mask ($50) + Helium Tank ($45) = easily obtainable items that cause painless death by asphyxiation in 5 minutes. do you hide your kitchen utensils as well?
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;39000655]CPAP tubing ($5) + CPAP Mask ($50) + Helium Tank ($45) = easily obtainable items that cause painless death by asphyxiation in 5 minutes. do you hide your kitchen utensils as well?[/QUOTE]
you could stop harassing me too
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39000641]Then sell them to people out of state or out of that county, I don't give a shit. It's just massive waste to earn a weeks worth of applause from the public.[/QUOTE]
it isn't just to earn "a weeks worth of applause". these guys feel that by getting rid of guns they are actually helping to make their communities safer. they are trying to improve their world.
-snip whoops
[QUOTE=Ownederd;39000659]you could stop harassing me too[/QUOTE]
and NOW we have gotten to that point where this has absolutely NOTHING to do with anything in the article
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;39000655]CPAP tubing ($5) + CPAP Mask ($50) + Helium Tank ($45) = easily obtainable items that cause painless death by asphyxiation in 5 minutes. do you hide your kitchen utensils as well?[/QUOTE]
to be the devil's advocate, it's much easier to kill yourself with a firearm than it is going through the trouble of acquiring all that, especially if it's readily available. Because people in your household are suicidal is a valid reason to get rid of a firearm.
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;39000655]CPAP tubing ($5) + CPAP Mask ($50) + Helium Tank ($45) = easily obtainable items that cause painless death by asphyxiation in 5 minutes. do you hide your kitchen utensils as well?[/QUOTE]
jesus christ what are you even on about?
like seriously you just look dumb.
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;39000655]CPAP tubing ($5) + CPAP Mask ($50) + Helium Tank ($45) = easily obtainable items that cause painless death by asphyxiation in 5 minutes. do you hide your kitchen utensils as well?[/QUOTE]
[quote=Me]I'd like both sides to stop throwing ad hominems around please.[/quote]
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