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Also, on the Reisman issue: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Reisman#Erototoxins[/url] "Reisman has postulated a physical mechanism to account for the dangers she ascribes to pornography: when viewed, an addictive mixture of chemicals which she has dubbed "erototoxins," floods the brain, causing harmful influences to it. Reisman hopes that MRI studies will prove porn-induced physical brain damage and predicts lawsuits against publishers and distributors of pornography similar to those against Big Tobacco which resulted in the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement. Further, if pornography can "subvert cognition," then "these toxic media should be legally outlawed, as is all other toxic waste, and eliminated from our societal structure." [b]Finally, individuals who have suffered brain damage from 'pornography are no longer expressing "free speech" and, for their own good, shouldn't be protected under the First Amendment.'"[/b] [editline]16th April 2012[/editline] Fucking Chrille my automerge!
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35592892] Besides the one that supports my claim(that was already posted a few posts back), I only found pamphlets and articles written through pornography addict support groups and churches.[/QUOTE] Previous posted article didn't support your claims, it stated that there are no conclusive evidence for either side. [QUOTE=yawmwen;35592892]You do know who Judith Reisman is, right? She believes that homosexuals caused the holocaust. She is featured on WorldNetDaily, a very conservative publication. [/QUOTE] I didn't knew who she was. In this case I agree that her opinions are probably biased. [editline]16th April 2012[/editline] I suppose there are not much evidence that supports my claim but the same can be said for your side as well. You haven't provided any back up for your opinion, besides anecdotal evidence and "your anecdotal evidence doesn't count".
I think this is for the people that fap each day and constantly do it. At least I hope. I mean, I don't look at porn 24/7, but it's not necessarily a bad thing.
Ha ha, wonderful. Now I have to give up one of the three things I'm interested in.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35592987][b]Finally, individuals who have suffered brain damage from 'pornography are no longer expressing "free speech" and, for their own good, shouldn't be protected under the First Amendment.'"[/b][/QUOTE] Wow! Okay, I agree, she's a total nutjob.
[QUOTE=fear me;35593019]Ha ha, wonderful. Now I have to give up one of the three things I'm interested in.[/QUOTE] Let me guess, fapping, gaming, women?
[QUOTE=eternalflamez;35593034]Let me guess, fapping, gaming, women?[/QUOTE] Unless women is included in fapping, in which case it could be fapping, gaming and eating [editline]16th April 2012[/editline] my bets are placed
[QUOTE=Chrille;35592974]Alright, I'm at work so I can't read these fully myself, but I did a little searching: [url]http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201107/porn-induced-sexual-dysfunction-is-growing-problem[/url][/quote] Mostly postulating. It also focuses more on ED than about desensitization. Either way, I'm looking for actual studies that have been done on the issue. Anyone can postulate. Also, Psychology Today, no matter how scientific it may be, is a for profit publication. This means their articles need to get viewers more than they have to be factual. [quote][url]http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20124181-71/research-web-porn-stops-men-from-performing/[/url][/quote] Same as PT, in fact it links to it. However, one point I would like to make is that they are saying the ED is caused by overstimulation of the brain, not understimulation that would come from desensitization. [quote][url]http://nymag.com/news/features/70976/[/url][/QUOTE] Not scientific, not does it link to anything scientific. Therefore everything in there is anecdotal or uncited.
[QUOTE=Chrille;35593047]Unless women is included in fapping, in which case it could be fapping, gaming and eating [editline]16th April 2012[/editline] my bets are placed[/QUOTE] Then I change mine aswell, fapping, gaming and scaring people. (His username)
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;35592999]Previous posted article didn't support your claims, it stated that there are no conclusive evidence for either side.[/quote] My claim is that there isn't conclusive evidence. I make the [I]assumption[/I] that the effects are minimal, if at all present, because of a lack of scientific evidence. I'm not saying it's not possible, but until I see real evidence, it's a bit foolish to assume it has any effect. [quote]I suppose there are not much evidence that supports my claim but the same can be said for your side as well. You haven't provided any back up for your opinion, besides anecdotal evidence and "your anecdotal evidence doesn't count".[/QUOTE] I don't need evidence to back up a negative. It's up to the person making a claim to provide evidence for said claim. It's called "burden of proof". And like I said, I'm not claiming anything except there is a lack of evidence.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35593081]And like I said, I'm not claiming anything except there is a lack of evidence.[/QUOTE] In that case, I believe I stand corrected.
I just draw a line. I actually was into some rather "heavier" stuff, but I forbid it to myself. Also, I limit masturbation. I prefer to have a good boner when being with my Girlfriend.
[QUOTE=eternalflamez;35593065]Then I change mine aswell, fapping, gaming and scaring people. (His username)[/QUOTE] My username's a load of shit. I hate eleven-year-old me for coming up with it.
[QUOTE=fear me;35593129]My username's a load of shit. I hate eleven-year-old me for coming up with it.[/QUOTE] We demand answers! What is the top 3 things you like to do, then?
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;35593103]In that case, I believe I stand corrected.[/QUOTE] Sorry for acting like a dick earlier. When I ask for evidence to something, I am being sincere. I legitimately change my views based on scientific evidence, and I was hoping you might have something new that I haven't seen before.
[QUOTE=eternalflamez;35593153]We demand answers! What is the top 3 things you like to do, then?[/QUOTE] Well, I sit. I don't have a life and I don't like to live it, so that's not one of them. Eating is fun I guess.
[QUOTE=fear me;35593186]Well, I sit. I don't have a life and I don't like to live it, so that's not one of them. Eating is fun I guess.[/QUOTE] Food isnt love.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35593168]Sorry for acting like a dick earlier. When I ask for evidence to something, I am being sincere. I legitimately change my views based on scientific evidence, and I was hoping you might have something new that I haven't seen before.[/QUOTE] I apologize for being a dick as well. I totally misunderstood your original claims.
[QUOTE=Science]... escalation to more extreme material, concentration difficulties, sexual performance problems, radical changes in sexual tastes, social anxiety, irritability, inability to stop, and obsessive-compulsive symptoms.[/QUOTE] I've experienced every single one of these since I started watching porn. I suddenly got into weird fetishes, I stopped doing well at school. Haven't had a sexual encounter yet, but I am anxious more often, but I have exhibited some obsessive compulsive symptoms. The only thing that I am able to do is stop, so I think I'll go ahead and do that.
[QUOTE=jumpydave;35593315]I've experienced every single one of these since I started watching porn. I suddenly got into weird fetishes, I stopped doing well at school. Haven't had a sexual encounter yet, but I am anxious more often, but I have exhibited some obsessive compulsive symptoms. The only thing that I am able to do is stop, so I think I'll go ahead and do that.[/QUOTE] You don't need to stop, you just need to cut down. I was in the same position as you, and cutting it down to 1-2 times a week helps a lot more than you'd think.
And then all the lonely nerds on facepunch were even more depressed.
[quote]tl;dr: in nature, guys did not get to "mate" with as many girls now (our brains do not differentiate between fapping to a pic and real sex). In order to handle all the ladies that the internet can give guys, the brain lowers erection time.[/quote] what that's the complete opposite of how the brain would evolve please tell me how a gene that encourages you [I]not[/I] to reproduce would rise to ubiquity within the population
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;35593566]what that's the complete opposite of how the brain would evolve please tell me how a gene that encourages you [I]not[/I] to reproduce would rise to ubiquity within the population[/QUOTE] It means you orgasm sooner, thus being able to fertilize more women in the same time span? Not as if anyone could do such a thing...
I fap at least 1 day per week to hentai will I eventually get erectile dysfunction?
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;35593566]what that's the complete opposite of how the brain would evolve please tell me how a gene that encourages you [I]not[/I] to reproduce would rise to ubiquity within the population[/QUOTE] Humans evolved to reproduce less. A human child takes a fuck ton of energy and a whole lot of time to raise. Rapid reproduction could be fatal to a population.
Funnily enough I saw a few videos on this last week, about an hour long total but very interesting (Also you only need to watch the first 3-4 to get the jist of it. I suggest anyone interested in this check it out. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKDFsLi2oBk[/media]
I'm quitting starting today, anyone want to join me?
[QUOTE=Disseminate;35594469]I'm quitting starting today, anyone want to join me?[/QUOTE] Make a thread. No-Fap-Forever or something.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35591917]Notice how title says "fapping to [b]porn[/b]". So does it mean fapping to something else is ok?[/QUOTE] Fapping is ok, it's the fapping [I]to porn[/I]. Your brain thinks you fertilized the women on the screen. [editline]16th April 2012[/editline] Even then you should limit your fapping, so you don't become "tolerant" to the awarding chemical your brain releases. You can also recover if you start now as opposed to "it's too late!" Eventually your faps will produce more semen and be longer.
What if you fap to men? You can't fertilize them.
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