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[url]www.yourbrainonporn.com[/url]
The guy in the OP runs this site and the 6 10 minute Youtube videos detailing this much further, they are quite interesting.
The site also contains stories from people who have given up or massively reduced watching porn, and what effect it had on their lives.
[QUOTE=ChaosUnleash;35608198]Honestly I don't care. It's probably not true, I thought ED was just caused by stress and age and was quite random.[/QUOTE]
ED can be caused by so much...Age, stress, psychological issues, drugs (Incl. alcohol, tobacco), physical problems and so forth.
On the site above quite a few people who said they had ED and thought it was because of porn, started to get more function back when they came off of it...It may not be empirical evidence, but you cant really say there is absolutely no correlation in any case.
[QUOTE=dgg;35601889]I still can't fully take you seriously, because my God this is just crazy. Again, you are most likely super horny [B]because[/B] you jerk off so much. Jerking off makes the body want to jerk off more which makes the body want to jerk off more. You're stroking your own hornyness and creating your very own social problem by jerking off too much.
I'm 20, puberty ends at around age 18-22, your puberty with hormone fluctuations and such is pretty much over, it could very well be over. I've never heard of anyone at all that wanks off 4-6 times, and I've gone to school with people that likes to brag beyond what they can actually achieve just to seem cool and tough. (who hasn't anyways?)
I've heard of lots of people that have tested how many times they could actually fap during one day, but they've never continuously kept fapping that much. Everything from 3-7 times, personally I think I managed 3 or 4 times before I just couldn't fap more that day.
No, you're never in your life going to be having sex 3-4 times a day unless you have a harem or rape her. I don't know what rock you've been living under, but you need to distinguish porn from reality, read up on what it takes to satisfy a woman in bed, look up the average amount of sex people have and look up some sex education as well. You have extremely unrealistic and mind blowingly odd expectations for sex.
4-6 times a day IS CLEARLY an addiction. I really don't see how you can say 4-6 times a day isn't an addiction.
"Everyone else does it so it's okay", yeah best argument ever. No, if you know a lot of others that jerk off 4-6 times a day then they are also addicted. Think about it, this is just like a crackhead saying he's not addicted to drugs because he knows a lot of others that takes drugs 3-5 times a day.[/QUOTE]
You sound like an angry old person who is seething at the fact that a young guy gets to enjoy jacking off more than he does. Do you suffer from limpdick or something?
It's completely normal fapping 4-6 times a day. I don't have 3-hour fucking sessions of stroking my cock. I bash one out in ten minutes tops. You gotta take it easy and stop treating this like it's such a big problem. [B]Because it isn't.[/B]
And the whole having sex with my girlfriend four times a day? I don't know what rock [I]you're[/I] living under (or most likely a basement) because me and my girlfriend can have sex twice a day just fine. If we spent more time together, we'd more likely do it a bit more. I know how tiring sex is, and I know how much energy it saps, but we're both young and my libido is through the roof.
I dunno what the cause is, but I'm pretty sure I'm a late bloomer. 19, and I still can't grow a full beard. I guess I've still got hormones pumping through me or something.
And can I just clear up the whole "if I don't fap I mentally undress every girl I come across" ordeal. You make it seem a lot worse than it actually is. How many guys on here will check a girls ass or breasts out and imagine her naked? It's such a guy thing to do. I just find that if I haven't jerked off that day and am feeling a bit horny, I'll tend to be more OTT with girls and they'll usually reciprocate that. For example, the other day, I hadn't bashed one out. Me and a friend of mine were talking and we both went a bit over the top, she ended up pinching my ass and smacking my balls. Went home, bashed one out and thought "Fuck no man, don't ever do that again, she's only a friend".
I don't know to be honest. You seem to be real anal and uptight about this whole masturbation thing. 4-6 times isn't that difficult to be honest, and I don't know why you seem to find the thought of fapping that much so daunting. Maybe you have a lower libido than a guy should? Perhaps you're the one with the problem? And the 4-6 times a day thing was an average. Yesterday I only did it 3 times, today I haven't done it at all and I doubt I will. It varies from day to day. During my Easter holidays, I was easily knocking one out 6 times a day cause I was bored to shit and had nothing better to do.
Relax man, stop being so uptight about all this. If this is an addiction then oh well, not really bothered to be fair. It hasn't affected me in any detrimental ways. If anything, when I don't fap (this one time I was on holiday, I couldn't find the time to fap. My whole family noticed something was up, I wasn't acting myself. I was pretty much so pent up with all these hormones that I couldn't release via my normal routine of fapping that I'd go out and do stupid shit like getting in fights and generally being aggressive) it has detrimental affects on me.
You just demonise this whole fapping business and turn it out to be worse than it actually is.
Anyways, this has kind of gotten out of hand. I feel weird talking about masturbating so much.
[editline]17th April 2012[/editline]
Reading back on your post, Jesus Christ you make it seem like fapping 6 times is a huge thing. I can literally finish up in about 5 minutes. Ten at most. If I'm taking my time, it'll be 30 minutes. Then consider the fact that I generally do it when bored / haven't got any plans.
For a 20 year old, you sure seem strange. I'm a year younger. I seriously think you may have a libido problem? Or am I the one with the libido problem? I wouldn't think of this as being a "problem".
[editline]17th April 2012[/editline]
Ah, just looked at your Facebook profile. I'm not being an asshole or trolling or anything. I genuinely found your response rather aggressive and I didn't understand why. Well, I think I found the problem. Your Facebook profile shows that you seem slightly overweight? Are you fit, are you active? Perhaps you're the one with the problem. Your libido will be much lower if you have a bad diet and don't exercise or keep active.
Me? I work out on a regular basis, I jog (mornings and evenings), I eat damn healthy food (cheers mum!) that I really love. I have a diverse diet that ranges from fish, to red meats, to white meats, to all manner of vegetables and fruits. Give it a go. Also, I heard that working out in itself increases libido.
So, in the end it seems as if I don't have a problem at all. I just think that you've not really been healthy enough to experience a normal libido.
i think i'm starting to feel the effects of this and i'm only 18.
alright i'll stop
Well Duh. Anyone with a partner who also masturbates regularly already knows this first hand.
[QUOTE=Kenneth;35609831]Well Duh. Anyone with a partner who also masturbates regularly already knows this first hand.[/QUOTE]
Or the second.
[QUOTE=Dedmytas;35610203]Or the second.[/QUOTE]
Both.
[QUOTE=dgg;35595639]Can't tell if you're joking or not.
4-6 times a day is a sign of a problem and a clear indication of an addiction.
Also jerking off makes you more wanting to jerking off, so the only reason you're so horny is because you jerk off too much. Experienced it myself, sometimes when I beat off once a day I feel like beating off more until I don't beat off and it goes a few days and suddenly it's gone 4-5 days and I haven't really felt like beating off and then I might beat off just "for the heck of it" and not because I actually felt horny or anything, and then I can feel like beating off the day after, because I beat off the previous day.
[editline]16th April 2012[/editline]
If you watched the TED talk in the OP then you would find out that he might simply be telling the truth.[/QUOTE]
My experiences confirm this, when I was at the worst it was literally only physical soreness that would stop me. All self control was gone. It was almost like my body was on autopilot. Since I have started trying to cut down (which has been one of the hardest things ever, especially considering I have a partner) Women are generally more attractive, I am less inclined to stay indoors all the time, and am more confident.
To be honest I don't really know what to think about this, there is one side backing up with facts that this is true, and another side backing up with facts that this is wrong. I don't know what to believe.
So we have a choice...
Stop fapping to porn and please woman.
Or give up on ever having children and enjoy porn.
So, you know, I'm going to try this. The benefits seem so big, compared to just some more porn and a quick fap.
[quote]Internet erotica users experiencing perplexing, unexpected effects: escalation to more extreme material, concentration difficulties, sexual performance problems, radical changes in sexual tastes, social anxiety, irritability, inability to stop, and obsessive-compulsive symptoms.[/quote]
I think I fit a good few of these. I haven't had any problems with women, but my concentration is at an all time low and I have been really anxious and irritable since the start of high school.
Think it's time to chill out a bit. :v:
And I already failed
Welp
[QUOTE=loopoo;35609365]You sound like an angry old person who is seething at the fact that a young guy gets to enjoy jacking off more than he does. Do you suffer from limpdick or something?
It's completely normal fapping 4-6 times a day. I don't have 3-hour fucking sessions of stroking my cock. I bash one out in ten minutes tops. You gotta take it easy and stop treating this like it's such a big problem. [B]Because it isn't.[/B]
And the whole having sex with my girlfriend four times a day? I don't know what rock [I]you're[/I] living under (or most likely a basement) because me and my girlfriend can have sex twice a day just fine. If we spent more time together, we'd more likely do it a bit more. I know how tiring sex is, and I know how much energy it saps, but we're both young and my libido is through the roof.
And can I just clear up the whole "if I don't fap I mentally undress every girl I come across" ordeal. You make it seem a lot worse than it actually is. How many guys on here will check a girls ass or breasts out and imagine her naked? It's such a guy thing to do. I just find that if I haven't jerked off that day and am feeling a bit horny, I'll tend to be more OTT with girls and they'll usually reciprocate that. For example, the other day, I hadn't bashed one out. Me and a friend of mine were talking and we both went a bit over the top, she ended up pinching my ass and smacking my balls. Went home, bashed one out and thought "Fuck no man, don't ever do that again, she's only a friend".
I don't know to be honest. You seem to be real anal and uptight about this whole masturbation thing. 4-6 times isn't that difficult to be honest, and I don't know why you seem to find the thought of fapping that much so daunting. Maybe you have a lower libido than a guy should? Perhaps you're the one with the problem? And the 4-6 times a day thing was an average. Yesterday I only did it 3 times, today I haven't done it at all and I doubt I will. It varies from day to day. During my Easter holidays, I was easily knocking one out 6 times a day cause I was bored to shit and had nothing better to do.
Relax man, stop being so uptight about all this. If this is an addiction then oh well, not really bothered to be fair. It hasn't affected me in any detrimental ways. If anything, when I don't fap (this one time I was on holiday, I couldn't find the time to fap. My whole family noticed something was up, I wasn't acting myself. I was pretty much so pent up with all these hormones that I couldn't release via my normal routine of fapping that I'd go out and do stupid shit like getting in fights and generally being aggressive) it has detrimental affects on me.
You just demonise this whole fapping business and turn it out to be worse than it actually is.
Anyways, this has kind of gotten out of hand. I feel weird talking about masturbating so much.
[editline]17th April 2012[/editline]
Reading back on your post, Jesus Christ you make it seem like fapping 6 times is a huge thing. I can literally finish up in about 5 minutes. Ten at most. If I'm taking my time, it'll be 30 minutes. Then consider the fact that I generally do it when bored / haven't got any plans.
For a 20 year old, you sure seem strange. I'm a year younger. I seriously think you may have a libido problem? Or am I the one with the libido problem? I wouldn't think of this as being a "problem".
[editline]17th April 2012[/editline]
Ah, just looked at your Facebook profile. I'm not being an asshole or trolling or anything. I genuinely found your response rather aggressive and I didn't understand why. Well, I think I found the problem. Your Facebook profile shows that you seem slightly overweight? Are you fit, are you active? Perhaps you're the one with the problem. Your libido will be much lower if you have a bad diet and don't exercise or keep active.
Me? I work out on a regular basis, I jog (mornings and evenings), I eat damn healthy food (cheers mum!) that I really love. I have a diverse diet that ranges from fish, to red meats, to white meats, to all manner of vegetables and fruits. Give it a go. Also, I heard that working out in itself increases libido.
So, in the end it seems as if I don't have a problem at all. I just think that you've not really been healthy enough to experience a normal libido.[/QUOTE]
I suffer from internet, my lack of balls has never been a problem.
It's not completely unnormal to fap 4-6 times a day, but it's not really normal. Most often it's people that have started puberty that fap that much.
Ok, so you can have sex twice a day, do you actually make her orgasm? Sometimes it doesn't require more than about 10 minutes, but other times it could even peak up at an hour, but that's special cases anyways, so. And I do have problems imagining someone wanting to do it so many times all day, but hey people are different and it sounds to me like you live in Hornyfuckville.
I don't, I hardly even pay attention to a womans boobs because I don't care too much about sex, but rather the personality of people, I want to be with someone, not have sex with them, sex is something that I'll just leave as a side-dish so to say. But I know I'm the different guy here, in the big picture.
How the fuck do you say something that makes someone pinch your ass and smack your balls? What in the fuck are you guys talking about? Also, again, I would advise you to try and beat it off less and see if that helps, because whilst it of course could just be how you are now I do have a suspicion that you act like you do [I]because[/I] you jack off so much. When you need to jack off to fix a problem then that's a sign of addiction, the same way alcoholics drink to forget about things and crackheads do crack to be happy and smokers take smokes to calm down. Addiction is usually just wanting to fix up something. But of course a fap addiction is by far the most healthiest, after all the only known side-effect so far is the erectile dysfunction and that's only if it's coupled with porn, meaning it's a 50/50 thing.
Fapping too much will make things seem boring, interests in things outside of fapping will decrease because of fapping, the fact that you fapped 6 times during a day just because there wasn't anything else to do should ring a bell to you here. Again it's not dangerous or anything like that, but it is a sign of a slight problem and indication of an addiction. Wouldn't it be better to try and replace that bored gap with a hobby or something (easy to say, hard to do, I know).
Well I'm not telling you to stop fapping either, that's just as bad as fapping too much in my book. Fapping every now and then is healthy and keeps sperm cells fresh and happy, and in your case will relieve some stress and keep your cool.
No I don't demonize fapping at all, I demonize fapping too much. :>
Well you shouldn't be, it's one of the most natural things in our lives.
Maybe we both got libido problems? I'm pretty asexual so I won't say I don't.
Oh, so now we are going on personal attacks huh? First calling me a basement dweller and now calling me fat? HUH?! That's the way you gonna play bro?! Come at me! :v:
Just kidding, just kidding. Yeah I'm a bit overweight on the BMI and have tried training but failed keeping it up after a month and a half, trying to get back into it though, just need to find a good routine and excercise setup that works without equipment. Obviously my diet isn't the best either, but it's better than most other students. I mostly make my own food rather than putting frozen things in the oven.
Yes working out is just as much of a circle of joy, happiness, motivation, self-confidence and will as not working out is (with the opposite effect obviously).
I personally think you're on the opposite end of the libido scale, in which I think you have too much and I have too little.
[QUOTE=Tomthetechy;35611968]So we have a choice... Stop fapping to porn and please woman. Or give up on ever having children and enjoy porn.[/QUOTE] Or fap in moderation without porn.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;35612969]And I already failed
Welp[/QUOTE]
exact fucking same thing here
i said to myself i could go a week
i went two days
[QUOTE=dgg;35617085]I suffer from internet, my lack of balls has never been a problem.
It's not completely unnormal to fap 4-6 times a day, but it's not really normal. Most often it's people that have started puberty that fap that much.
Ok, so you can have sex twice a day, do you actually make her orgasm? Sometimes it doesn't require more than about 10 minutes, but other times it could even peak up at an hour, but that's special cases anyways, so. And I do have problems imagining someone wanting to do it so many times all day, but hey people are different and it sounds to me like you live in Hornyfuckville.
I don't, I hardly even pay attention to a womans boobs because I don't care too much about sex, but rather the personality of people, I want to be with someone, not have sex with them, sex is something that I'll just leave as a side-dish so to say. But I know I'm the different guy here, in the big picture.
How the fuck do you say something that makes someone pinch your ass and smack your balls? What in the fuck are you guys talking about? Also, again, I would advise you to try and beat it off less and see if that helps, because whilst it of course could just be how you are now I do have a suspicion that you act like you do [I]because[/I] you jack off so much. When you need to jack off to fix a problem then that's a sign of addiction, the same way alcoholics drink to forget about things and crackheads do crack to be happy and smokers take smokes to calm down. Addiction is usually just wanting to fix up something. But of course a fap addiction is by far the most healthiest, after all the only known side-effect so far is the erectile dysfunction and that's only if it's coupled with porn, meaning it's a 50/50 thing.
Fapping too much will make things seem boring, interests in things outside of fapping will decrease because of fapping, the fact that you fapped 6 times during a day just because there wasn't anything else to do should ring a bell to you here. Again it's not dangerous or anything like that, but it is a sign of a slight problem and indication of an addiction. Wouldn't it be better to try and replace that bored gap with a hobby or something (easy to say, hard to do, I know).
Well I'm not telling you to stop fapping either, that's just as bad as fapping too much in my book. Fapping every now and then is healthy and keeps sperm cells fresh and happy, and in your case will relieve some stress and keep your cool.
No I don't demonize fapping at all, I demonize fapping too much. :>
Well you shouldn't be, it's one of the most natural things in our lives.
Maybe we both got libido problems? I'm pretty asexual so I won't say I don't.
Oh, so now we are going on personal attacks huh? First calling me a basement dweller and now calling me fat? HUH?! That's the way you gonna play bro?! Come at me! :v:
Just kidding, just kidding. Yeah I'm a bit overweight on the BMI and have tried training but failed keeping it up after a month and a half, trying to get back into it though, just need to find a good routine and excercise setup that works without equipment. Obviously my diet isn't the best either, but it's better than most other students. I mostly make my own food rather than putting frozen things in the oven.
Yes working out is just as much of a circle of joy, happiness, motivation, self-confidence and will as not working out is (with the opposite effect obviously).
I personally think you're on the opposite end of the libido scale, in which I think you have too much and I have too little.[/QUOTE]
dgg, you're a total bro. And you're not fat! You don't look fat at all. The one profile picture I judged that from was the one you altered to fit the drawing you did, so I judged it wrong. My bad.
But, so far as I can tell, your personality kicks major ass. You're witty and humorous and you have a personality that brightens people up. Your photos also made my day :D
Can't talk right now, in a rush, but everything you said is fair-dos. I definitely will give the no-fapping-so-much thing a go, see how it feels.
Thanks man, your points make a hell of a lot of sense :)
PS: You are one good-looking gentleman and you have a manly-man beard that would make Chuck Norris quail in fear.
[QUOTE=loopoo;35619138]dgg, you're a total bro. And you're not fat! You don't look fat at all. The one profile picture I judged that from was the one you altered to fit the drawing you did, so I judged it wrong. My bad.
But, so far as I can tell, your personality kicks major ass. You're witty and humorous and you have a personality that brightens people up. Your photos also made my day :D
Can't talk right now, in a rush, but everything you said is fair-dos. I definitely will give the no-fapping-so-much thing a go, see how it feels.
Thanks man, your points make a hell of a lot of sense :)
PS: You are one good-looking gentleman and you have a manly-man beard that would make Chuck Norris quail in fear.[/QUOTE]
I'm fat, I'm just not very fat. Chubby. I have a weight of 96kg and excessive amounts of fat. It just doesn't bother me very much and it's fun to play with. But for my health's sake I should get around to do something about it.
I have a personality that brightens peoples day, but also a personality that makes people sick and can bring down their day. :v: I like taking things far out on subjects people aren't very comfortable to talk about to begin with.
Glad to hear you're willing to try it out, it's nice to check out and see if it helps, and if things just gets worse over the course of... 2-4 weeks then just go back to your normal routine.
D-...
...Does anal masturbation count?
How to fix the problem of taking longer to climax to the same person during intercourse:
Before you go at it, fap to other pictures, therefore resetting the whole "clock".
I think it should work?
I tossed this article to my Human Sexuality professor yesterday.
He laughed his ass off about it.
[QUOTE=joes33431;35623971]D-...
...Does anal masturbation count?[/QUOTE]
Only to porn.
You can still fap, just not to porn. You just won't see the benefits of increased testosterone if you fap.
This video has inspired me
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;35601733]I watch porn without fapping, to appreciate the art, I am a connoisseur of fine pornography[/QUOTE]
Reading this in your avatar's voice just makes it so much better.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;35629119]Only to porn.
You can still fap, just not to porn. You just won't see the benefits of increased testosterone if you fap.[/QUOTE]
Where is that article anyhow?
I can't seem to find it.
[editline]18th April 2012[/editline]
I also love the juxtaposition of the fact that we have an article detailing how people will brush aside data the contradicts what they're saying.
[url]http://facepunch.com/threads/1178252[/url]
:v:
Makes you wonder just how truthful those studies are.
Can I also point out that while this whole thing is going on, the pragamtic fact is that all the chemicals are finally taking their toll.
Men today are 50% less potent then men of the 50's.
This hasn't been explored but it can explain a lot instead of blaming masturbation.
Did you guys also forget about all the hormones in our meat? Or the left over estrogen from birth control pills?
Seriously, this study left out tons of outside factors which are just as likely to cause this as 'over-masturbation'.
[QUOTE=VengfulSoldier;35629512]Where is that article anyhow?
I can't seem to find it.
[editline]18th April 2012[/editline]
I also love the juxtaposition of the fact that we have an article detailing how people will brush aside data the contradicts what they're saying.
[url]http://facepunch.com/threads/1178252[/url]
:v:
Makes you wonder just how truthful those studies are.
Can I also point out that while this whole thing is going on, the pragamtic fact is that all the chemicals are finally taking their toll.
Men today are 50% less potent then men of the 50's.
This hasn't been explored but it can explain a lot instead of blaming masturbation.
Did you guys also forget about all the hormones in our meat? Or the left over estrogen from birth control pills?
Seriously, this study left out tons of outside factors which are just as likely to cause this as 'over-masturbation'.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, masturbation has been around since ages.
I mean, monkeys do it too.
My opinion is that we should do something about all the toxin we are feeding ourselves...
[QUOTE=Darkcube;35632057]Indeed, masturbation has been around since ages.
I mean, monkeys do it too.
My opinion is that we should do something about all the toxin we are feeding ourselves...[/QUOTE]
I'd like to point out, that with the right rewording, it sounds exactly like a 1950's ad trying to scare boys from masturbation.
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but would fapping to just one pornstar every time you go at it prevent the effect, seeing as it's the same person and therefore your mind thinks it's the same sexual partner?
is he mostly demonizing porn or masturbation
[QUOTE=Trogdon;35638613]is he mostly demonizing porn or masturbation[/QUOTE]
Porn with lots of different women.
How long is it supposed to be before you see the benefits of this, anyway?
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