TENNESSEE: "Don't Say Gay" Education Bill Passes State Senate Committee
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;29350669]yeah telling a group of people that society would be better if they'd disappear is really terrible
I think he knows by now though
It's not like the gold member revocation initiative is still running so baiting him into digging a deeper rut isn't even useful[/QUOTE]
It could be humourous
Little bit of facism going on here? This is truly disgusting - I would expect to see this sort of behaviour by a Mid-African government. I think the U.S. is headed for a civil war-esque shitstorm.
you guys are just jealous you don't live in the all glorious, Jesus-loved, Tennessee
[editline]22nd April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Jon27;29351108]Little bit of facism going on here? This is truly disgusting - I would expect to see this sort of behaviour by a Mid-African government. I think the U.S. is headed for a civil war-esque shitstorm.[/QUOTE]
what
[QUOTE=JerryK;29351135]what[/QUOTE]
What what?
:frog:?
[QUOTE=Jon27;29351108]Little bit of facism going on here? This is truly disgusting - I would expect to see this sort of behaviour by a Mid-African government. I think the U.S. is headed for a civil war-esque shitstorm.[/QUOTE]
They totally gay war: Coming to a continent near you.
This is just as bad as don't ask don't tell
This is Section 28 all over again.
If a 9th grader asks his teacher, say, "What was Prop 8? I heard about it on the news." the teacher will have to respond with "I would lose my job if I told you."
If a kid's being bullied for being gay, addressing the issue would have to be done through vagueness - "Don't bully. It is wrong."
Ultimately these measures are redundant. I got my sex ed from being curious and having Google. Kids will know about homosexuality no matter what.
[QUOTE=Last or First;29345419]And being gay's a choice[/QUOTE]
No need to state the obvious.
If we have to treat gays as equals (not saying thats bad)
doenst that mean that the furrys that make those creepy equality posters should get equality too?
gay is not a race its a sexual orientation.
just sayin
[QUOTE=c0nk3r;29353006]If we have to treat gays as equals (not saying thats bad)
doenst that mean that the furrys that make those creepy equality posters should get equality too?[/QUOTE]
Yes. If we treat gays as equals we also have to treat paedophiles as equals because that's just a sexual orientation too.
You can probably tell my view on what should be done from my tone - there's no point in me stating it.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;29353129]Yes. If we treat gays as equals we also have to treat paedophiles as equals because that's just a sexual orientation too.
You can probably tell my view on what should be done from my tone - there's no point in me stating it.[/QUOTE]
Yes, we should treat paedophiles as our equals because they are (presumably) as human as every other human in existence. However, even if they are our equals they still have to obey the law, and word on the street is that it's illegal to commit a sexual act with someone incapable of consenting (like children, animals, and the retarded).
yeah, why give gays special treatment then?
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pretty sure thats all we are doing
i think they should be aloud to marry, but outlawing saying faggot or making it a hate crime to curse at a gay person is stupid
[QUOTE=c0nk3r;29353440]yeah, why give gays special treatment then?
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pretty sure thats all we are doing
i think they should be aloud to marry, but outlawing saying faggot or making it a hate crime to curse at a gay person is stupid[/QUOTE]
you can call somebody a faggot all you want, but if you're committing a crime at them because of their orientation, that's where hate crimes come into play.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;29353467]you can call somebody a faggot all you want, but if you're committing a crime at them because of their orientation, that's where hate crimes come into play.[/QUOTE]
friend runs through a yard
knocks some glass thing over
residents of house HAPPEN to be gay
HATE CRIME HATE CRIME ARREST THIS KID HATE CRIME
They also come into play when someone wants money.
no one even knew they were gay until then
[editline]22nd April 2011[/editline]
I dunno, im just saying they better not make faggot the new N word.
[QUOTE=c0nk3r;29353440]yeah, why give gays special treatment then?
[editline]22nd April 2011[/editline]
pretty sure thats all we are doing
i think they should be aloud to marry, but outlawing saying faggot or making it a hate crime to curse at a gay person is stupid[/QUOTE]
If I recall correctly, the whole point of the LGBT movement is that they're [B]not[/B] getting anything close to special treatment, and aren't even getting treated equally. Also, it's not a hate crime to curse at a gay person, it's a hate crime to commit a crime against a gay person [B]because they're gay.[/B]
[QUOTE=c0nk3r;29353484]friend runs through a yard
knocks some glass thing over
residents of house HAPPEN to be gay
HATE CRIME HATE CRIME ARREST THIS KID HATE CRIME
They also come into play when someone wants money.
no one even knew they were gay until then
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I dunno, im just saying they better not make faggot the new N word.[/QUOTE]
If that scenario legitimately happened I will eat my own soul. Also, the problem with the word faggot is that it pretty much is the exact parallel to the word nigger.
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Actually I probably won't eat my own soul because I probably wouldn't be able to find it but you get the point.
[QUOTE=c0nk3r;29353440]yeah, why give gays special treatment then?
[editline]22nd April 2011[/editline]
pretty sure thats all we are doing
i think they should be aloud to marry, but outlawing saying faggot or making it a hate crime to curse at a gay person is stupid[/QUOTE]
That's pretty much the opposite of what this is doing. It would prevent teachers from mentioning homosexuality to children, let alone telling kids that picking on gay people for being gay is wrong.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;29353129]Yes. If we treat gays as equals we also have to treat paedophiles as equals because that's just a sexual orientation too.
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Really? I had no idea "child" was a sex along with "male" and "female."
You're a dolt.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;29353129]Yes. If we treat gays as equals we also have to treat paedophiles as equals because that's just a sexual orientation too.
You can probably tell my view on what should be done from my tone - there's no point in me stating it.[/QUOTE]
Jesus christ the sheer amount of human stupidity here is overwhelming. I've explained this far too many times. Hey, retard.
The reason pedophilia is wrong is because it is NOT between consenting adults, and the minor is being exploited, taken advantage of, by an adult who knows fully the consequences of his/her actions.
Homosexual sex, on the other hand, is perfectly fine if between consenting adults, or consenting equals.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29346541]Let's play a little game
I'll mention a public policy and you decide if it's either A) the southern us or B) the middle east
- Sodomy is illegal in many places
- Public homosexuality is either discouraged or illegal
- Religious policy takes precedent over civil rights
If you guessed A OR B you are wrong because the answer for all three was both[/QUOTE]
technically, sodomy is illegal all over the US
it's just that most of those places haven't taken the time to get rid of the archaic laws
they aren't enforced, and if they were they'd be shot down
same with anything against public homosexuality's legality.
the rest though is true
[QUOTE=Sanius;29354610]Really? I had no idea "child" was a sex along with "male" and "female."
You're a dolt.[/QUOTE]
You like men. They like children.
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Fucking children is illegal. Fucking dogs is illegal. So is sodomy. What're you trying to prove?
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;29357517]You like men. They like children.[/QUOTE]
How the fuck don't you get what I said? "Child" is not a sex.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;29357517]You like men. They like children.
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Fucking children is illegal. Fucking dogs is illegal. So is sodomy. What're you trying to prove?[/QUOTE]
Listen. Just get out. Just get the fuck out. Explain to me, if you have any legitimacy at all, how homosexuality exploits sexual partners like paedophilia does.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29357529]How the fuck don't you get what I said? "Child" is not a sex.[/QUOTE]
As far as I'm concerned sexual orientation is a generic term for what you're sexually attracted to. Your only counterargument so far is that my definition differs from your own.
[QUOTE=archangel125;29357591]Listen. Just get out. Just get the fuck out. Explain to me, if you have any legitimacy at all, how homosexuality exploits sexual partners like paedophilia does.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say it does. Both however, are illegal.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;29357595]Your only counterargument so far is that my definition differs from your own.
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My counter-argument is that you have no idea what you're talking about and should unplug your keyboard.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;29357595]As far as I'm concerned sexual orientation is a generic term for what you're sexually attracted to. Your only counterargument so far is that my definition differs from your own.
I didn't say it does. Both however, are illegal.[/QUOTE]
illegal =/= amoral or bad
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;29357595]As far as I'm concerned sexual orientation is a generic term for what you're sexually attracted to. Your only counterargument so far is that my definition differs from your own.
I didn't say it does. Both however, are illegal.[/QUOTE]
Sodomy is no longer illegal in the United States. It has been legal since 2003. You have no argument.
Once upon a time, it was also illegal for colored people to own property, or eat at 'white' restaurants, or keep their seats on a bus.
It was once illegal for women to vote, to have a right to work, to defend themselves against physical and sexual abuse.
I get the impression, FlapadarV2, that if these things were still illegal, you'd consider it a good thing.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29357621]My counter-argument is that you have no idea what you're talking about and should unplug your keyboard.[/QUOTE]
Great counter argument.
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[QUOTE=Nerts;29357635]illegal =/= amoral or bad[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'll give you that. I don't agree with it, but I won't deny there's nothing morally wrong with it.
[QUOTE=archangel125;29357644]Sodomy is no longer illegal in the United States. It has been legal since 2003. You have no argument.[/quote]
Didn't know that - informative.
[quote]Once upon a time, it was also illegal for colored people to own property, or eat at 'white' restaurants, or keep their seats on a bus.[/QUOTE]
Just a little tip, saying that to a black person would get you beaten up. From experience referring to them as "coloured" doesn't go down well.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;29357595]As far as I'm concerned sexual orientation is a generic term for what you're sexually attracted to. Your only counterargument so far is that my definition differs from your own.
I didn't say it does. Both however, are illegal.[/QUOTE]
Homosexuality is not illegal and is not related to paedophillia on any level. Paedophillia is the attraction to children or immature looking people, it has nothing to do with being gay in anyway.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;29357706]Just a little tip, saying that to a black person would get you beaten up. From experience referring to them as "coloured" doesn't go down well.[/QUOTE]
I AM colored, idiot.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;29357706]Great counter argument.
[img_thumb]http://forum.cheatengine.org/files/arguments_184.png[/img_thumb]
Just a little tip, saying that to a black person would get you beaten up. From experience referring to them as "coloured" doesn't go down well.[/QUOTE]
"You can't argue properly... *uses a red herring*"
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