I've seen people die doing clinical nights at the hospital but never violently
those deaths shook me up pretty bad I don't even want to imagine what I'd be like if I saw what u saw
Christ. I've seen my share of this stuff, I was only like 7 to 10, I don't remember it exactly, but I saw this crash involving a motorbike. The rider was torn in half at his stomach. I remember getting scared and shocked by it, and just to dig it in, the guy tried to sit up, and was moving for a short bit till I guess he bled out. It's horrific.
I thought this was someone posting in the wrong section based off the title. That sucks man. Just don't think about it.
I saw a dog get run over in second grade, that was bad enough. What Persecution went through is just terrible. Good luck.
[QUOTE]I don't want to sound like a dick but...Why is witnessing someone's death such a traumatic experience for you?
I would understand if you actually knew the person,but falling into a depression because you witnessed the death of a stranger,that's an over-exaggeration.[/QUOTE]
I hate you.
I'm so glad I've never had to see anything like that. I already get horribly sad enough as is whenever I see little memorials on the side of the road. I know it's kinda silly, but it always makes me curious about those certain people.
I've always thought about going around town and whatnot to get a closer look at said memorials.
[QUOTE=meppers;37409252]i saw a guy have a seizure with a bleeding head wound once
the image if his flailing arms and head smearing blood all over the floor will never leave my mind
(he was ok after trip to hospital)[/QUOTE]
That's honestly pretty tame.
[QUOTE=thisispain;37411812]yeah and that's because of the stigma. America has a very sentimental culture due to years of self-help and media culture influencing social interaction, while in other cultures (i'm just gonna assume aussies are the same as brits except they say cunt a lot) they favour masculine stoicism, often at the cost of actually advancement in therapy.
next time phrase the question better so my sperg-processing units do not activate. empathy is not enabled on this unit.[/QUOTE]
Jesus what is your problem. And nice job of countering a stigma with another one, idiot.
When I was 7 I visited my uncle who lived in Alberta at the time, he was a heavy smoker and a heavy drinker and we didnt have a lot of room in his small 2 bedroom apartment, but he was still doing his best to entertain me as a kid, SNES and etc, he was being awesome. That night, the first and only night I got to stay with him, I had to sleep in his bed, there wasn't anywhere else for me and I didn't mind, he was like a best friend in so many ways so I just slept the night away. The next morning I woke up in what felt like an iron grip. His arms were wrapped around me so tight I struggled to breathe. I tried to push my way out of them, But I couldn't. So I started to scream. My mom came in, and she instantly hit the floor when she walked in. My uncle had died of cancer that night, I woke up with his arms locked in rigor Morris around me.
I remember this day better than anything you can imagine.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;37420258]When I was 7 I visited my uncle who lived in Alberta at the time, he was a heavy smoker and a heavy drinker and we didnt have a lot of room in his small 2 bedroom apartment, but he was still doing his best to entertain me as a kid, SNES and etc, he was being awesome. That night, the first and only night I got to stay with him, I had to sleep in his bed, there wasn't anywhere else for me and I didn't mind, he was like a best friend in so many ways so I just slept the night away. The next morning I woke up in what felt like an iron grip. His arms were wrapped around me so tight I struggled to breathe. I tried to push my way out of them, But I couldn't. So I started to scream. My mom came in, and she instantly hit the floor when she walked in. My uncle had died of cancer that night, I woke up with his arms locked in rigor Morris around me.
I remember this day better than anything you can imagine.[/QUOTE]
..How horrifying.
[editline]27th August 2012[/editline]
I live in a way where drunk people speed all the time, at the end of the straight long road there is a turn which people fail to do. Often the bloodstains lasts days, but the turn is too far for me to see. I just ear, most of the time.
Once a girl on a motorbike speeding got distracted and went in the other side of the road, hit a car coming from the opposed direction. It happened right under my house, I heard the slam and the screams of the ones nearby. She broke her neck and died instantly.
I weren't shocked. To be honest it was.. fascinating. One moment you're a sentient being who think and feel and the other you are a lifeless ragdoll.
I don't like gore and I'm not the violent kind, I would never hurt anyone (let alone go full Columbine which I will be likely suggested to as a reply to this post). I just have this.. curiosity.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;37411660]Yeah, but most people aren't sociopaths.[/QUOTE]
And I don't get the indication that znk is one either. All I see in him is A: a lack of empathy, and B: he hasn't figured out that if you throw out an empty pleasantry or two nobody gives a damn if you have empathy or not.
Some people need to wrap their mind around how not everyone has the same level of empathy they do. The only reason I didn't say the same thing he did was because it would start a shitstorm, which he has handily proved. I don't have any empathy for people I don't know as well, and any time I say something like "My condolences" it's just an empty pleasantry I'm saying to avoid a clusterfuck.
People without empathy aren't automatically sociopaths. People without empathy simply don't have the same emotional tune you do, nothing more nothing less. They're tuned to not care about people they don't know, or to care less than you do.
[QUOTE=Fuck_The_Pooch;37407905]Do you live in Canada?
Americans aren't so lucky with 18-Wheelers yet, I hope they fucking change that
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-YMt-XAcsQ[/MEDIA][/QUOTE]
I'm not sure what the deal was with that trailer. Every single trailer my dad has ever towed has had enough bracing back there where not even another 18 wheeler was able to fold that bumper up like a piece of paper, let alone a crummy sedan...
...and we know this first-hand because he got rear-ended by another 18 wheeler in a tunnel in Georgia. The frame of the trailer gave way before the fucking bumper did. That Impala would have just bounced off the bumper and not decapitated the dummies if it hit any trailer he's ever pulled.
[QUOTE=sltungle;37410284]Just out of curiosity, is it a very 'American thing' to go see a psychologist or something after a traumatic experience? I mean I've seen one or two 'traumatising' things happen in my life (as have other people I know like friends), but we all just tough through it by keeping each other company and happy.[/QUOTE]
It must be. We have a culture of "Something slightly wrong? See a specialist!" over here. Doesn't really matter what it is. Car makes a funny squeak? It's in the shop the next day. Slight headache? See a doc, get a pill. Feeling down one day for no reason? Go get a scrip for antidepressants. TV on the fritz? Cable guy is on his way before the end of the commercial break. Nobody does anything for themselves anymore.
I can understand someone of a weak disposition, a child, someone who's seen several of them in short succession, seen a loved one get flattened, etc, needing therapy after seeing something like that, but a normal person should be just fine. Sure it's traumatic but seeing one random person they don't know get flattened in a car crash shouldn't send a normal person scrambling for a shrink.
OP strikes me as a normal person that can wrap their mind around what happened and move on without needing a therapist. His neice may need some counseling, but she's just a child and children haven't developed enough to handle such things, and it sounds like her family will be able to take care of her just fine.
[QUOTE=znk666;37410757]I've lived through the death of 4 of my relatively close relatives as well as my father,it didn't do anything to me.[/QUOTE]
You need to see a psychologist, you're clearly a sociopath. I'm being serious, and I think the rest of the thread can agree on this.
I too was around something like this when I was a child. It was a pileup and we barely stopped in time. I remember people running to a van apparently everyone in the van was dead. It was a bunch of mexicans in one of those white, slide door rape vans too so I assume they didn't have seat belts. Good thing I had to stay in the truck because people's reactions were horrific enough.
[QUOTE=TestECull;37421070]And I don't get the indication that znk is one either. All I see in him is A: a lack of empathy, and B: he hasn't figured out that if you throw out an empty pleasantry or two nobody gives a damn if you have empathy or not.
Some people need to wrap their mind around how not everyone has the same level of empathy they do. The only reason I didn't say the same thing he did was because it would start a shitstorm, which he has handily proved. I don't have any empathy for people I don't know as well, and any time I say something like "My condolences" it's just an empty pleasantry I'm saying to avoid a clusterfuck.
People without empathy aren't automatically sociopaths. People without empathy simply don't have the same emotional tune you do, nothing more nothing less. They're tuned to not care about people they don't know, or to care less than you do.
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He also said the death of four relatives and his father didn't do anything, so clearly something's wrong with him.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;37421887]He also said the death of four relatives and his father didn't do anything, so clearly something's wrong with him.[/QUOTE]
Not really. It's entirely possible his father was an abusive asshole that never formed the close bond necessary for grief, and that the relatives were distant/rarely visited/were assholes themselves. If his father was an abusive prick he may have felt relieved, not because of the death, but because that death brings with it a cessation of constant torture. We don't know for sure because he never said anything supporting or refuting that notion, but when I hear "Yeah my dad died and I didn't feel a thing" I think "Your dad must have tortured you as a child in order for you to feel that way", not "Wow, get away sociopath". It's not impossible that zxn is a sociopath, but given today's society, I'm far more likely to assume the problem lies with his dad instead.
As for the relatives, I felt the same way he did when one of my grandfathers passed. I'm not really close with any of my extended family, and he and I didn't always see eye to eye, so while I do sometimes miss him I wasn't really saddened all that much after he died. I felt more for my grandmother to be honest.
For the record I'd be devastated if a sheriff knocked on my door and told me that, because he rolled his 18 wheeler, my dad's coming home in a box. Maybe I was lucky enough to get a good dad?
[QUOTE=TestECull;37422318]Not really. It's entirely possible his father was an abusive asshole that never formed the close bond necessary for grief, and that the relatives were distant/rarely visited/were assholes themselves. If his father was an abusive prick he may have felt relieved, not because of the death, but because that death brings with it a cessation of constant torture. We don't know for sure because he never said anything supporting or refuting that notion, but when I hear "Yeah my dad died and I didn't feel a thing" I think "Your dad must have tortured you as a child in order for you to feel that way", not "Wow, get away sociopath". It's not impossible that zxn is a sociopath, but given today's society, I'm far more likely to assume the problem lies with his dad instead.
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That's a pretty damn silly thing to leave out if you're going to say something like you weren't even bothered that your dad died, especially given the current conversation. And sociopath isn't all that uncommon. I've heard it as high as 4% of the population.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;37420258]When I was 7 I visited my uncle who lived in Alberta at the time, he was a heavy smoker and a heavy drinker and we didnt have a lot of room in his small 2 bedroom apartment, but he was still doing his best to entertain me as a kid, SNES and etc, he was being awesome. That night, the first and only night I got to stay with him, I had to sleep in his bed, there wasn't anywhere else for me and I didn't mind, he was like a best friend in so many ways so I just slept the night away. The next morning I woke up in what felt like an iron grip. His arms were wrapped around me so tight I struggled to breathe. I tried to push my way out of them, But I couldn't. So I started to scream. My mom came in, and she instantly hit the floor when she walked in. My uncle had died of cancer that night, I woke up with his arms locked in rigor Morris around me.
I remember this day better than anything you can imagine.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, I couldn't even imagine...
I've seen crazy shit, but one thing that comes to mind in particular is when I was at a flea market with my mom. We were inside a building and I was checking out this huge corner with NES games, etc., and there was a wooden ramp going to the next part of the building. An old man was walking down it, and I didn't pay much mind. As I turn my head, I start hearing him scream, and turned back to see that he had fell. Someone rushed up to help him up, and he held up his hand. His right index finger was completely busted, and the area above the break was just hanging loosely while a shard of bone was sticking up through it and blood running down his hand. He kept screaming in pain until they were able to take him out of the building and get him help. I know it could have been worse for him, but it was still a bit disturbing to see him get hurt :c
One other thing that comes to mind was when I was staying at a hotel. Paramedics showed up out of nowhere and had to pull a woman out of the hot tub. They resuscitated her right in front of all of us because she had a heat stroke, and most of us didn't notice. Luckily someone did and called 911 immediately.
I remember when I was about 8, I was on the way to work with my dad (Bring Your Son To Work Day) and about 5 minutes ahead of us, there was a pretty bad accident. When we eventually drove by it, I remember that the police hadn't responded yet, but people gathered to try and help and whatnot, and there was one car on fire, but the guy managed to get out with only a minor burn and broken wrist. But, there was also this blue van, well, what was left of it anyway, and I guess it was hit pretty hard, and I'll always remember this one, horrific part. The lady that was driving the van had actually flown through the windshield, and my guess was she wasn't wearing her safety belt, but she had flown hard and fast enough to be bent around a street lamp, and she was bent the opposite of how a normal person bends. Her stomach had actually torn open from the force, and some of her intestines were visible. She had kids in the backseats, and fortunately, they had been wearing their safety belts, though one was knocked out. I don't even want to imagine what they went through after that. For like half a year after that, I had incredibly bad nightmares. I still shiver at the thought of that woman and what she looked like when we passed her and that accident.
[QUOTE=zombays;37421081]You need to see a psychologist, you're clearly a sociopath. I'm being serious, and I think the rest of the thread can agree on this.[/QUOTE]
Being unaffected by death doesn't mean you're clearly a sociopath. You don't know what you're talking about.
yeah but the way znk666 presented his first post in this thread was pretty tasteless, potentially insulting, and unwarranted at the most
[QUOTE=Ownederd;37424286]yeah but the way znk666 presented his first post in this thread was pretty tasteless[/QUOTE]
It definitely was, but it's unfair to say he's a sociopath.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;37424301]It definitely was, but it's unfair to say he's a sociopath.[/QUOTE]
i'm not trying to degrade znk666 but take a quick glance through his posts and you'll figure out that he's a pretty bad person, constantly berating certain groups of people
he needs to question himself and stop acting like a asshole with the self-mentality that he'll grow up and realize that it's outright discriminatory and vulgar to act the way he does sometimes
It's weird... I've never actually seen anyone die, but I often have disturbing dreams about people dying in gory or disfiguring ways ("pancaked".. ugh, brings back memories of those dreams)
One time I saw a car flip sideways, it rolled up onto the light pole and launched 25ft+ into the air. It landed upside down. I was 13
Personally, having been exposed to such a form of death at such a young age, I don't feel much when someone dies. There's 3 points in my life since then that significant people in my life have died or taken their own lives, and even then, my feelings were muted. I could tell what I should feel, how I should be taking things, but I never did. I reacted much colder than expected of a normal person. But at a conscious level I know where I was going wrong in terms of typical behaviour and feelings, I know exactly how devastating death is but my experience with it has more or less changed my life so that when these issues do come up, I'm a lot more numb towards them. Even my own death doesn't really scare me, I've had several close calls myself(various car accidents, getting hit by a car while crossing the street, suicide attempts in my teens) but I never felt like I imagine other people do, maybe this is a problem of only being able to experience your own life, but the whole realm of death is a lot less impactful on me than most people.
I'm not saying this in anyway to be "badass". I don't have a choice as to how I view things, and if I did, I'd rather be normal than be like this, but rather than just shouting "sociopath" when someone doesn't feel the same things as another person, we could you know, actually discuss things and view points.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;37423402]That's a pretty damn silly thing to leave out if you're going to say something like you weren't even bothered that your dad died, especially given the current conversation.[/quote]
And you think someone with that sort of past is going to be all "Oh, right, my dad was a twat" at random?
No.
People that go through that tend to keep it to themselves. It's not something they enjoy discussing.
[quote]And sociopath isn't all that uncommon. I've heard it as high as 4% of the population.[/QUOTE]
4% is pretty damn uncommon. I'd also love to see how many of that 4% [i]actually were genuine sociopaths.[/i] The term is misused so often I'd bet that, if you pulled that 4% aside, 4% of them are actually sociopaths and the remainder are just labelled as such...hell it's been misused right here in this thread.
[editline]27th August 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;37424722]but rather than just shouting "sociopath" when someone doesn't feel the same things as another person, we could you know, actually discuss things and view points.[/QUOTE]
I agree. People misuse the term sociopath way too much. They use it to label someone that doesn't have the same empathy they do and fail to realize that reacting to death with a cold shrug does not automatically mean someone's a sociopath.
[QUOTE=TestECull;37421070]It must be. We have a culture of "Something slightly wrong? See a specialist!" over here. Doesn't really matter what it is. Car makes a funny squeak? It's in the shop the next day. Slight headache? See a doc, get a pill. Feeling down one day for no reason? Go get a scrip for antidepressants. TV on the fritz? Cable guy is on his way before the end of the commercial break. Nobody does anything for themselves anymore.
I can understand someone of a weak disposition, a child, someone who's seen several of them in short succession, seen a loved one get flattened, etc, needing therapy after seeing something like that, but a normal person should be just fine. Sure it's traumatic but seeing one random person they don't know get flattened in a car crash shouldn't send a normal person scrambling for a shrink.
OP strikes me as a normal person that can wrap their mind around what happened and move on without needing a therapist. His neice may need some counseling, but she's just a child and children haven't developed enough to handle such things, and it sounds like her family will be able to take care of her just fine.[/QUOTE]
I kind of just try and tough through things on my own where possible, although not from some delusion that I need to be a strong, stoic male, I just think it's healthier. Get sick? Let your body take care of it (unless it gets REALLY bad). Life has spent hundreds of millions of years evolving so that it can all happily coexist together, chances are your body will take care of most illnesses you'll ever get. Plus doing stuff like overusing antibiotics for bacterial infections just breeds stronger and stronger bacteria over time so in the long run I'm benefiting myself by letting my immune system fight the war for me.
In fact, recently myself and a friend got sick with the EXACT same illness on the SAME day and progressed through the illness at almost an identical rate with identical symptoms except for one stage (I started mending better than him by a single day at one point, and that day difference was maintained until we were both better). A lot of my colleagues at work got the same illness, started progressing identically to us, except they made the decision to go to the doctors and get medicine (unlike my friend and myself), and while our recovery took about a week and a half there's took about 3 weeks (doctors have a bad habit of prescribing antibiotics for EVERYTHING over here... even when it's viral, so I think that has something to do with it).
I kind of extend that same logic onto my mind. I SHOULD be able to take care of any mental issues I may encounter on my own (or at least with the help of friends), just like my body can (hopefully) take care of itself. In fact, if I went to a psychologist (NOT a psychiatrist), what are they going to do any differently than a good friend? From the one time I've been to one (and from what I've seen/heard about them from other people and TV/movies (I know that's not the best source)) all they really seem to do in like 95% of cases is sit down and listen to their patient... well, vent. I have good friends, thankfully - friends that are willing to do the exact same thing and offer their best input to me; people who are emotionally invested in me and want to see me happy and mentally healthy.
Two close friends of mine were able to quite quickly recover from the shock of seeing a guy get absolutely splattered on a road in India right in front of them and not let it eat them up inside because they have good enough friends to help them through events like that.
[QUOTE=TestECull;37424811]And you think someone with that sort of past is going to be all "Oh, right, my dad was a twat" at random?
No.
People that go through that tend to keep it to themselves. It's not something they enjoy discussing.
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It's pretty fucking relevant when you're discussing what you should feel when people die.
[QUOTE=TestECull;37424811]
4% is pretty damn uncommon. I'd also love to see how many of that 4% [i]actually were genuine sociopaths.[/i] The term is misused so often I'd bet that, if you pulled that 4% aside, 4% of them are actually sociopaths and the remainder are just labelled as such...hell it's been misused right here in this thread.
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Uncommon? It's nearly one in twenty. That's pretty goddamn common, all things considered. Even 1% would still leave a quite a few given how many different people regularly post here. I also understand many autistic people have problems with empathy, but calling someone autistic on the internet tends to have a different meaning.
Well, i have NEVER witnessed some dying/getting injured, but, i almost have gotten kidnapped before. I was 11, my brother being 12, we were told that he state of wyoming (where i used to live) was looking for this man, he chased two young girls around till they got into town and got help. We (i was walking with my brother) saw him. He immediatly stopped the car, got out and was walking torwd us. We didnt know what to do, so we ran away, there was this narrow road where people take horses that was near my house, so we ran up it, but the guy got into his car and tried to follow us. It was so scary, i made it home, when he (the sex-offender) saw us entering our home, he drove out as fast as he could. It turned out there was a bar near where we were running away, so all of it got filmed, then snapshots where shown in the newspaper a day later. I didnt know what to do, i couldnt go to school for 3 days beacuse i was soo scared. I have always thought about being kidnapped, and how horrible it would be. But i know now that being chased around by a 38 year old sex offender is some scary stuff.
[QUOTE=Zac;37425520]Well, i have NEVER witnessed some dying/getting injured, but, i almost have gotten kidnapped before. I was 11, my brother being 12, we were told that he state of wyoming (where i used to live) was looking for this man, he chased two young girls around till they got into town and got help. We (i was walking with my brother) saw him. He immediatly stopped the car, got out and was walking torwd us. We didnt know what to do, so we ran away, there was this narrow road where people take horses that was near my house, so we ran up it, but the guy got into his car and tried to follow us. It was so scary, i made it home, when he (the sex-offender) saw us entering our home, he drove out as fast as he could. It turned out there was a bar near where we were running away, so all of it got filmed, then snapshots where shown in the newspaper a day later. I didnt know what to do, i couldnt go to school for 3 days beacuse i was soo scared. I have always thought about being kidnapped, and how horrible it would be. But i know now that being chased around by a 38 year old sex offender is some scary stuff.[/QUOTE]
this isnt the share your scary stories that happened to you thread.
-whatever-
I've seen someones arm been blown off before and I was fine. You just have to realize that things happen, no matter how severe. Be glad it wasn't you to be found pancaked.
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