Israel push demand for recognition as 'Jewish state' - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Devodiere;24799888]almost none of the descisions are made by the religion.[/QUOTE] *spits out drink* [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Rabbinate_of_Israel[/url] [QUOTE=Devodiere;24799888]There is no theocracy here and if you want one go look at the multitude of Islamic countries who openly admit to theocracies.[/QUOTE] oh my god this "THEY DID IT WHY CAN'T WE" attitude is annoying and destructive

[quote]*spits out drink* [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Rabbinate_of_Israel[/url] [/quote] *spits out drink, drink it off the table just to spit it again* And...? There are similar positions for Muslims and Christians. The origin is from the Ottoman codex that regarded religions.

[QUOTE=smartdog;24806533]*spits out drink, drink it off the table just to spit it again* And...? There are similar positions for Muslims and Christians. The origin is from the Ottoman codex that regarded religions.[/QUOTE] read the article and the post i responded to

[QUOTE=smartdog;24806533]*spits out drink, drink it off the table just to spit it again* And...? There are similar positions for Muslims and Christians. The origin is from the Ottoman codex that regarded religions.[/QUOTE] God fucking damnit.

[QUOTE=thisispain;24806575]read the article and the post i responded to[/QUOTE] I did, and it means nothing. Israel is a secular state, there was NO decision regarding foreign relation that was decided upon because of religious beliefs. You don't know shit, so just let it go.

[QUOTE=smartdog;24806657]I did, and it means nothing. Israel is a secular state, there was NO decision regarding foreign relation that was decided upon because of religious beliefs. You don't know shit, so just let it go.[/QUOTE] Are you mentally challenged? Israel is like THE MOST RELIGIOUSLY CONTROLLED STATE IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD aside from the vatican. EDIT: Below poster is an idiot, you happy now?

Go read a fucking book, kid. I'm embarrassed for you. I suggest you to edit that post to avoide the embarrassment.

[QUOTE=smartdog;24806794]Go read a fucking book, kid. I'm embarrassed for you. I suggest you to edit that post to avoide the embarrassment.[/QUOTE] What kind of biased shit are you reading? The Zionists BREED in Israel. The American government is influenced, by the influence, that they create. I suggest you get a fucking brain, you obviously have fallen prey to a fucking bible or something. [editline]11:11PM[/editline] [QUOTE=smartdog;24806794]Go read a fucking book, kid. I'm embarrassed for you. I suggest you to edit that post to avoide the embarrassment.[/QUOTE] Also; what drives you to make such assumptions, you don't know me in person, but your feeble mind in it's entirety decides to use insults to fuel an unproven argument. I bet your parents are proud of the son they have raised.

Why the fuck are you guys arguing that Israel is a religious country with religious laws? I'm an Atheist and there's no law against it or something like that, there's no laws against Muslims, and there's no laws against Christians, Buddhists, Hinduists, Taoists, and all other religions.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;24807291]Why the fuck are you guys arguing that Israel is a religious country with religious laws? [/QUOTE] [quote]The Chief Rabbinate of Israel (הרבנות הראשית לישראל) is recognized by law as the supreme halakhic and spiritual authority for the Jewish people in the Israel. The Chief Rabbinate Council assists the two chief rabbis, who alternate in its presidency. It has legal and administrative authority to organize religious arrangements for Israel's Jews. It also responds to halakhic questions submitted by Jewish public bodies in the Diaspora. The Council sets guides, and supervises agencies within its authority.[1] The Chief Rabbinate of Israel consists of two Chief Rabbis: an Ashkenazi rabbi and a Sephardi rabbi, also known as the Rishon leZion. The Chief Rabbis are elected for 10 year terms. The present Sephardi Chief Rabbi is Shlomo Amar and the Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi is Yona Metzger, both of whom commenced their terms in 2003. The Rabbinate has jurisdiction over many aspects of life of Jews in Israel. Its jurisdiction includes personal status issues, such as Jewish marriages and Jewish divorce, as well as Jewish burials, Kashrut and kosher certification, olim, supervision of Jewish holy sites, working with various mikvaot and yeshivot, and overseeing Israeli Rabbinical courts. The Rabbinical courts are part of Israel's judicial system, and are managed by the Ministry of Religious Services. The courts have exclusive jurisdiction over marriage and divorce of Jews and have parallel competence with district courts in matters of personal status, alimony, child support, custody, and inheritance. Religious court verdicts are implemented and enforced - as for the civil court system - by the police, bailiff's office, and other agencies[/quote]

[QUOTE=thisispain;24808524]stuff[/QUOTE] They make the laws regarding the Jewish religion, they don't have any authority outside of that, so anyone outside of the Jewish religion isn't affected whatsoever by their laws.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;24808707]They make the laws regarding the Jewish religion, they don't have any authority outside of that, so anyone outside of the Jewish religion isn't affected whatsoever by their laws.[/QUOTE] since Israel wants to call itself a jewish state, i fail to see the difference

The difference is that Religious laws don't affect anyone who isn't from the religion. Even though Israel is a Jewish state (and it's actually in the ETHNIC meaning, not religious) there will be plenty of non-Jews in it (for example since you are so fixated on religion - I am not Jew by religious standards), and all these non-Jews are not affected by the laws regarding the Jewish religion that the chief rabbinate decide. What you are complaining about is like complaining that there are certain rules in a certain religion even though only members of that religion have to follow these rules and they follow them because they want to be a member of the religion.

does anyone else feel that if they don't stop this shit soon we are going to get pulled into WWIII?

[QUOTE=thisispain;24805582]oh my god this "THEY DID IT WHY CAN'T WE" attitude is annoying and destructive[/QUOTE] It's nothing of the sort. The definition of a Theocracy is being diluted so that any government that even acknowledges a religion is a Theocracy while everyone forgets that there are countries that are actual theocracies which are far more religious. It's like saying the US is a a dictatorship because they have a representative democracy instead of a direct democracy while ignoring Robert Mugabe.

The amount of ignorance here is mindboggling. How can wanting to be recognized be considered "Jewish Nazism" in any way shape or form? You guys are making me sick.

[QUOTE=Sickle;24806758]Are you mentally challenged? Israel is like THE MOST RELIGIOUSLY CONTROLLED STATE IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD aside from the vatican. EDIT: Below poster is an idiot, you happy now?[/QUOTE] How about Iran. [editline]07:17AM[/editline] [QUOTE=zombojoe;24818181]The amount of ignorance here is mindboggling. How can wanting to be recognized be considered "Jewish Nazism" in any way shape or form? You guys are making me sick.[/QUOTE] They are all just on the "death to Israel" bandwagon. When Iran finally kills all Israelis, their mindset will change.