AMD loses [compute] top brain to Nvidia - Polidicks

[QUOTE=J!NX;48921784]aren't siriusXM not as big as intel/nvidia/amd though? and there are still non satellite radio out there that easily count as competition. It'd be more like if you could only get radio from sirius. There's no competition against intel/nvidia, except maybe quadcomm, but they're not for PC's GE though, I don't know enough about that to talk about it[/QUOTE] i don't know if its legal or not, but i don't see people simply accepting the idea of intel having virtually ALL of the desktop and laptops CPU marketshare just like that.

[QUOTE=27X;48919225]You got dumbed because you essentially blamed tripwire for "selling out", yet the game works pretty damn great on all kinds of hardware. Having a tantrum cause you can't see flying intestines wiggle on the ground afterward and a gout of literal red jello spill down the steps is straight up fetish-whining. Ubi$oft's issues are another matter entirely, and it again has shit to do with nVidia, and everything to do with greed, and a straight unwillingness to pay for aftermarket support for a title. Ubi's title run shit on PC in general, not just on AMD hardware, and they refuse to pay the people who can fix it. That's their problem, not anyone else's.[/QUOTE] Except Nvidia provides that shit with their fucking shadowworks alongside it. They hide everything behind a wall while AMD actually releases its products very openly to the public. Why do you think driver support for AMD cards is better than Nvidia cards on Linux? And don't hamfist me with that previous discussion, I've stated time and time again that Nvidia's actions are only doing damage to the market using a closed source, giving lazy developers lazy tools to do lazy things that barely work on competitor cards or don't work at all. Instead of using third party solutions like Havoc which work on all cards, more and more developers are turning to Flex and PhysX. They're looking for a monopoly and this now biting Nvidia users in the ass because you have to sign up to get updates. Fuck off with trying to drag in a couple month old discussion.

Havok is not remotely third party, especially now (and they never have been) If people were really concerned about being agnostic they'd be using Bullet for physics, which works just as well as Flex, there's nothing preventing people from inviting both companies in. Nothing. As stated before I know from personal experience if you're having an issue with optimization, nVidia can and probably will send a literal expert and hardware to get your shit straightened out. AMD will send you a pdf, a pdf that's available to anyone enrolled so was rather likely consulted to begin with big fucking help that is. [quote] Linux [/quote] Now I know you haven't the faintest. nVidia's linux support is leagues ahead, AMD've been playing catch up for literal [I]years.[/I] [quote] Fuck off [/quote] You first, seeing as you're literally the one whom brought it up. No one is blind to nVidia's tactics, tactics AMD has used in equal measure, how quickly you forget DX11, but AMD is down to quarter share of the discrete add-in market through no fault of anyone but themselves. Horsepower per dollar AMD has been cheaper since 2008 or so, and yet here we are.

Tbf, the whole sign up for updates is because win10 is still having issues with Nvidia's drivers, so it wont automatically update the drivers. That and most people already use the experience for shadowplay so its not really that much of an issue. Sorry nvidia has been pumping out much better drivers and being a better competitor compared to AMD. You're basically mad that they have more customers while keeping their questionable business practices.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;48930823]Tbf, the whole sign up for updates is because win10 is still having issues with Nvidia's drivers, so it wont automatically update the drivers. That and most people already use the experience for shadowplay so its not really that much of an issue.[/QUOTE] There's no reason to force people to sign up still. GeForce Experience can already update drivers automatically without forcing you to sign into some account, there's no need for it. And either way even if most people do use Experience that's [I]most[/I] not all. Some people don't want to use Experience. Personally I'd rather just stick with drivers only because any time I have Experience installed I have constant issues with it.

[QUOTE=J!NX;48920821]do people not realize that monopolies are illegal in the US? [editline]16th October 2015[/editline] like, it can't actually happen[/QUOTE] I never understood this， what happens if AMD decides to stop making CPUs and just focuses on GPUs, Intel would be in a monopoly. What happens then? Does Intel then have to split into two Intels and compete with themselves? Sure as shit aren't going to get a new competitor into the market at this stage.

[QUOTE=helifreak;48933485]I never understood this， what happens if AMD decides to stop making CPUs and just focuses on GPUs, Intel would be in a monopoly. What happens then? Does Intel then have to split into two Intels and compete with themselves? Sure as shit aren't going to get a new competitor into the market at this stage.[/QUOTE] Turns out VIA has another extension on their x86 license...

[QUOTE=helifreak;48933485]I never understood this， what happens if AMD decides to stop making CPUs and just focuses on GPUs, Intel would be in a monopoly. What happens then? Does Intel then have to split into two Intels and compete with themselves? Sure as shit aren't going to get a new competitor into the market at this stage.[/QUOTE] The U.S Government can order it to split or if that dosen't work impose massive restrictions or bail out AMD. Either way a healthy AMD that makes better products is better for everyone even for the biggest Nvidia and Intel fanboy.

I'd like to point out that monopolies are, in fact, [I]not inherently illegal[/I], since somebody always says this shit every time monopolies are brought up. Monopolies are only illegal in the United States if they engage in anti-competitive behavior such as price fixing, price discrimination, exclusive dealings, group boycotts, tying contracts, and others. [URL="http://www.girardgibbs.com/antitrust-monopoly/"]As long as a monopoly avoids doing that (both actively or in the past), they are a legal monopoly.[/URL] [URL="http://www.economicshelp.org/microessays/markets/regulation-monopoly/"]The US Government may choose to regulate a monopoly in order to protect consumers[/URL], but unless anti-trust laws have been violated they usually won't break up the company. Even if they do break up a company, there's no guarantee the two new companies won't collude and maintain their market share together.