Men pay $300 for drug, women pay $6 - "...not discriminatory" - Polidicks

its only sexist if it benefits men over women

If this is sexist then flood insurance not covering a house fire is also discriminatory That isn't to say that healthcare shouldn't be free for everyone, because it should be

[QUOTE=HazzaHardie;41229915]its only sexist if it benefits men over women[/QUOTE] Well basically. If you were to aggregate everything in the world that benefits either men or women and create some sort of net-sum, women are the ones who would be at a disadvantage (and a fairly fucking huge one at that).

[QUOTE=download;41229754]Or, you know, they could have had said subsidy from day one?[/QUOTE] [quote]"Securing initial registration and reimbursement of osteoporosis medications requires large-scale clinical trials that demonstrate a benefit in fracture prevention. As osteoporosis is more common in women, the initial approach is to conduct these large scale studies in women and follow-up as quickly as possible with a smaller scale study in men," the spokesperson said.[/quote] If anything it's a response to how "sexist" mother nature nature is. Going with the larger target group first means they can help more people more quickly. If the $300 version was such a great seller they would've gone with the male demographic first so there's a larger target group for the expensive version.

oh god, stop trying to pin this on feminist or whatever, this is a goverment simply being stupid.

[QUOTE=HazzaHardie;41229915]its only sexist if it benefits men over women[/QUOTE] Its unfortunate that this is the common mindset among feminists. If this was a racial issue or an issue that went against women more people would be outraged. They might only be getting the subsidy because the company is only testing women but its still gender inequality.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41229982]Its unfortunate that this is the common mindset among feminists. If this was a racial issue or an issue that went against women more people would be outraged. They might only be getting the subsidy because the company is only testing women but its still gender inequality.[/QUOTE] But men aren't being made worse off than women by this considering the fact that [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_pay_gap_in_Australia]in Australia men make 17% more money than women.[/url] You have to look at larger trends, not specific instances.

This is room in of old!! Lol needs to be fine.f

[QUOTE=n0cturni;41229772]what[/QUOTE] He's trying to say he's a man whore and dogs shouldn't pay more to be fucked by him than women do [editline].[/editline] I think he's trying to say he wants to fuck a dog

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41229982]Its unfortunate that this is the common mindset among feminists. If this was a racial issue or an issue that went against women more people would be outraged. They might only be getting the subsidy because the company is only testing women but its still gender inequality.[/QUOTE] how is that mindset in any way common have you seriously even talked to a feminist before? please inform me as to where you've been looking that so many people are supporting matriarchy and inequality [editline]28th June[/editline] "some woman on tumblr said feminists want to take our dicks!!!!"

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;41229887]The way I like to phrase it when im talking to nerdes is that it's an "emergent behavior". There is no conscious global conspiracy to keep women down, women being kept down is just a consequence of men having all of the money and power and wanting to keep that power to themselves, which in-turn coalesces into actual legal and social discrimination against women. That's what the patriarchy is. A single instance of men getting screwed when paying for medication or being disadvantaged when suing for custody is not evidence of anti-male sexism because it does not fit into a coherent, holistic global framework of a "matriarchy".[/QUOTE] it isn't even "men having power and wanting to keep that power", it's more that we are all raised to view men and women as having specific roles in society. men are viewed as being powerful, emotionless, muscular, dominant, calm, etc. women are viewed as being emotional, weak, submissive. it's bad because when a woman wants to do something that is considered "masculine", society often shuns her. when a man wants to do things that are "feminine", society shuns him. it just so happens that men have the gender roles that put them in most control for whatever reason.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;41230436]it isn't even "men having power and wanting to keep that power", it's more that we are all raised to view men and women as having specific roles in society. men are viewed as being powerful, emotionless, muscular, dominant, calm, etc. women are viewed as being emotional, weak, submissive. it's bad because when a woman wants to do something that is considered "masculine", society often shuns her. when a man wants to do things that are "feminine", society shuns him. it just so happens that men have the gender roles that put them in most control for whatever reason.[/QUOTE] so it actually is "men having power and wanting to keep that power" then (which is true, because people who are in power want to stay in power. if i was in power then i would do all i could to stay in power - become a dictator or whatever, and so would you)

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41229982]Its unfortunate that this is the common mindset among feminists. If this was a racial issue or an issue that went against women more people would be outraged. They might only be getting the subsidy because the company is only testing women but its still gender inequality.[/QUOTE] it's not a common mindset among feminists. it's just that feminists identify oppression against men in society as also being caused by a patriarchy that expects men to fulfill certain roles. [editline]28th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Eltro102;41230458]so it actually is "men having power and wanting to keep that power" then[/QUOTE] sorry that was probably a really redundant comment. i'v just thought that it isn't anyone wanting to really be greedy or keep power, but that most people just think that the way we view men and women are the way things should be.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41229176]But.. but the Patriarchy. Shouldn't it be men getting the cheaper medication? Seems like the company and government are just mixed up because of some dumb regulation. The company is testing women so they get the testing subsidy because of this but they haven't applied for male testing so I'm not sure.[/QUOTE] why is it always the weeaboos who are such manchildren?

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;41229781]Stop going on tumblr and basing your opinions of feminism on them. The patriarchy isn't an evil group of men sitting around a table saying "how can we oppress the bitches today?" it's a worldwide background phenomenon. Throughout the entirety of human history men have been the ones to rule and hold power. They have been the primary authority figures. That's what a patriarchy is by definition, mostly men in power.[/QUOTE] "patriarchy" is the kulak of the 21st century a magical force that causes all of society's ills, and questioning this assumption just makes you part of the conspiracy the same with "X privilege"

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;41231218]"patriarchy" is the kulak of the 21st century a magical force that causes all of society's ills, and questioning this assumption just makes you part of the conspiracy the same with "X privilege"[/QUOTE] so you would say that artificial gender roles are not oppressive to people? that's the largest part of the term in the first place. it's just the fact that men and women are expected to fulfill certain roles in society and anyone who wants to freely make their own choice about their masculinity/femininity are considered weird.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;41231257]so you would say that artificial gender roles are not oppressive to people? that's the largest part of the term in the first place. it's just the fact that men and women are expected to fulfill certain roles in society and anyone who wants to freely make their own choice about their masculinity/femininity are considered weird.[/QUOTE] gender isn't a social construct [editline]29th June 2013[/editline] besides, even if you are outside the norm it's not as though you can't pursue unconventional careers are you on crack

This just in: Health care board decided to fix the inequality problem; osteoporosis medication now $300 for all.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;41231276]gender isn't a social construct[/quote] gender roles are. our idea of femininity and masculinity are very maleable and often change considerably culture-to-culture. what we think "women's work" is, is pretty different from what we thought it was 20 years ago even. [quote]besides, even if you are outside the norm it's not as though you can't pursue unconventional careers are you on crack[/QUOTE] you can totally pursue "unconventional careers", but there are more obstacles for people doing it. women shouldn't be discouraged from trying to become a business executive, just like a man shouldn't be discouraged from trying to be a nurse.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;41231402]gender roles are. our idea of femininity and masculinity are very maleable and often change considerably culture-to-culture. what we think "women's work" is, is pretty different from what we thought it was 20 years ago even.[/quote] they all follow the same general pattern [quote]you can totally pursue "unconventional careers", but there are more obstacles for people doing it. women shouldn't be discouraged from trying to become a business executive, just like a man shouldn't be discouraged from trying to be a nurse.[/QUOTE] and they generally are not. since men and women differ on a fundamental biological level we should never see complete equality in everything, no matter how much you "level the playing field". it's a mathematical inevitability. as the environmental component of variation approaches zero, the genetic component approaches 1.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;41231563]they all follow the same general pattern[/QUOTE] not really, no. maybe a very vague general trend, but gender roles vary greatly especially depending on if the culture is present in a developed nation, developing nation, undeveloped nation, or hunter-gatherer tribe. [quote]since men and women differ on a fundamental biological level we should never see complete equality in everything, no matter how much you "level the playing field". it's a mathematical inevitability. as the environmental component of variation approaches zero, the genetic component approaches 1.[/quote] i'm not saying half of every business should necessarily be women. i'm not saying that women are necessarily 100% mentally the same as men. there are obvious physiological differences(idk about psychological though). however, what i'm saying is that if a woman does not want to do the things society have already dictated as "feminine", she should not be looked at as less of a woman.

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;41229781]Stop going on tumblr and basing your opinions of feminism on them. The patriarchy isn't an evil group of men sitting around a table saying "how can we oppress the bitches today?" it's a worldwide background phenomenon. Throughout the entirety of human history men have been the ones to rule and hold power. They have been the primary authority figures. That's what a patriarchy is by definition, mostly men in power.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say the entire history, but yeah a pretty large portion of it has been men.

[QUOTE=Quark:;41229678]It's a stupid term that stupid feminists use in stupid, fallacy filled arguments about how holding doors for them is oppressing the entire female gender.[/QUOTE] i thought the whole holding doors thing was what MRA's cried about as proof that feminists oppress men?

Stupid. Should just be the same price for both. No reason for it not to be the same price for every person other than greed or personal reasons. That drug company can get the fuck out.

[QUOTE=Roll_Program;41232349]Stupid. Should just be the same price for both. No reason for it not to be the same price for every person other than greed or personal reasons. That drug company can get the fuck out.[/QUOTE] if people weren't just jumping to conclusions you'd see that it's because osteoporosis is far more common in women than in men, so it has been subsidized for women first and is currently in the process of being subsidized for men

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;41232363]if people weren't just jumping to conclusions you'd see that it's because osteoporosis is far more common in women than in men, so it has been subsidized for women first and is currently in the process of being subsidized for men[/QUOTE] wtf no women should totally have to suffer from these inordinately large bills i simply will not be able to wear this fedora with PRIDE unless women have far more problems than is demonstrably necessary

but then again, this could also be proof that all feminism is a lie the patriarchy doesn't exist and it is in fact men that are oppressed...

The pharma company just never applied for a subsidiary for men, most likely because that company seems to advertise almost exclusivy towards women because as Lachz0r said osteoporosis is more common in women. The pharma company has to apply for a specific subsidiary for men in order to get it. Here is their website for their medicine for reference. [URL]http://www.prolia.com/[/URL] I don't get why a lot of people are so quick to jump on the bandwagon without doing any sort of research on it.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;41231218]"patriarchy" is the kulak of the 21st century a magical force that causes all of society's ills, and questioning this assumption just makes you part of the conspiracy the same with "X privilege"[/QUOTE] are you saying that you, along with everyone else in the world, have never been affected by a patriarchal society? it happens to everybody on an almost daily basis. unless you've lived in a secluded village in the middle of the amazon for your entire life that doesn't abide by societal norms, then patriarchal society has basically made you into who you are today.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;41229955]Well basically. If you were to aggregate everything in the world that benefits either men or women and create some sort of net-sum, women are the ones who would be at a disadvantage (and a fairly fucking huge one at that).[/QUOTE] And the way to rectify that is to continue creating disadvantages? Revenge.