• Religion may become extinct in nine nations, study says
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I can't see this happening and to be honest, I wouldn't want it to. I'm not religious but religion sure makes for some interesting motherfuckers - by interesting I mean stupid cunts who make me laugh
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[QUOTE=JustExtreme;28771550]I can't see this happening and to be honest, I wouldn't want it to. I'm not religious but religion sure makes for some interesting motherfuckers - by interesting I mean stupid cunts who make me laugh[/QUOTE] so which social disorder were you diagnosed with?
Some scientists say religion will die out. What's new? This is basically a thread for people to rage on religious people for some reason. I really don't know why you people do this. Does it make you feel superior or something? Are you just doing it to hop on the bandwagon? Do you really just hate people that much? Most Christians, for example, are not as close to Marguerite Perrin as you'd love to think. I know three Christians and a Muslim. None of them are the ranting nutjobs that popular media (and you) make them out to be. None of them have ever tried to ram their religion down my throat. Nothing I say is going to get you stop bashing religious people simply because of their beliefs, though, so I won't bother trying. [sp]This post is not bashing religion with supreme hate and idiocy, so it will receive many dumbs.[/sp] [editline]23rd March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;28771595]so which social disorder were you diagnosed with?[/QUOTE] You don't agree with my views, so you have a social disorder. :downs:
When I have kids I want them to be taught religion, so having it becoming removed from society is not necessarily good. I'd love for my children to be taught that the Catholic church praised Adolf Hitlers birthday for example, and promoted anti semitism right up until the 1960's. It be nice to clone Christopher Hitchens and have him as a teacher for every school too.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;28771882] You don't agree with my views, so you have a social disorder. :downs:[/QUOTE] he called people he doesn't even know stupid cunts who make him laugh he either has a social disorder or he's just a dick
[QUOTE=thisispain;28772042]he called people he doesn't even know stupid cunts who make him laugh he either has a social disorder or he's just a dick[/QUOTE] Regardless, are you any better than him by implying that he's retarded/has downs/has ADHD/whatever because of that? It's like saying that someone is evil for torturing a man and then turning around and kicking a baby in the face.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;28772219]Regardless, are you any better than him by implying that he's retarded/has downs/has ADHD/whatever because of that? It's like saying that someone is evil for torturing a man and then turning around and kicking a baby in the face.[/QUOTE] babies suck
[QUOTE=Strongbad;28772219]Regardless, are you any better than him by implying that he's retarded/has downs/has ADHD/whatever because of that? It's like saying that someone is evil for torturing a man and then turning around and kicking a baby in the face.[/QUOTE] Yes because social disorder means retarded and not, say, poor at empathizing/interacting with other people, selfish/egotistical, and whatever. Also that's one of the worse analogies i've ever heard. e: gj rating dumb and not even responding
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hey guys lets see a world with out religion hundreds of thousands of lives are saved we dont have to deal with extremists anymore the twin towers still stand yes there would be major differences but nothing obscenely negative,add to my list if you want
Praise the lord, religion is abolished!
[QUOTE=Strongbad;28772219]Regardless, are you any better than him[/QUOTE] yes
As long as there is Oprah, people will worship something.
[QUOTE=U.S.S.R;28772842]Praise the lord, religion is abolished![/QUOTE] [img]http://www.washingtonindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/batman.jpg[/img] Welcome to a world without rules.
[QUOTE=Variant;28773297][img_thumb]http://www.washingtonindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/batman.jpg[/img_thumb] Welcome to a world without rules.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.thatfilmkid.com/storage/Christopher-Nolan-001.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1296569702370[/img] That's not what I meant.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;28771882]Some scientists say religion will die out. What's new? This is basically a thread for people to rage on religious people for some reason. I really don't know why you people do this. Does it make you feel superior or something? Are you just doing it to hop on the bandwagon? Do you really just hate people that much? Most Christians, for example, are not as close to Marguerite Perrin as you'd love to think. I know three Christians and a Muslim. None of them are the ranting nutjobs that popular media (and you) make them out to be. None of them have ever tried to ram their religion down my throat. Nothing I say is going to get you stop bashing religious people simply because of their beliefs, though, so I won't bother trying.[/QUOTE] I don't believe in the whole 'anyone can believe what they want as long as they don't shove it down my throat' argument and I don't think atheists or the religious should agree to disagree, or mind their own business or anything like that. I like having a good debate with someone who's religious, so it would be hypocritical for me to say 'don't shove it down my throat.' I'm going to debate religion and argue its flaws and fallacies, and mock the more absurd beliefs, but if someone tries to convert me to their religion with their arguments then so be it.
we should just make a religious debate thread thats all this really is when you get down to it
[QUOTE=bravehat;28762067]Yeah but when can it ever do that? [editline]23rd March 2011[/editline] DOHOHOH! There's a joke in there somewhere! And no, religion by it's very foundation is a problem for me, believe whatever the fuck you want but the second you inflict that OPINION on anyone else I'm jumping into the fray.[/QUOTE] So, kind of like 80% of the Atheists in this thread who are going "Theists are dumb, idiots believing in something that doesn't exist", then? Guilty parties on both side of the fence. Your average atheist/theist doesn't bother commenting on their beliefs (though in my experience, Atheists are more likely to bring it up than theists), but you get just as many people on both sides of the fence that feel the need to ram their beliefs down the throats of others. [editline]24th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=petieng;28773922]I don't believe in the whole 'anyone can believe what they want as long as they don't shove it down my throat' argument and I don't think atheists or the religious should agree to disagree, or mind their own business or anything like that. I like having a good debate with someone who's religious, so it would be hypocritical for me to say 'don't shove it down my throat.' I'm going to debate religion and argue its flaws and fallacies, and mock the more absurd beliefs, but if someone tries to convert me to their religion with their arguments then so be it.[/QUOTE] Or you could let them believe whatever the hell they want to believe, since there is no way to prove or disprove it one way or the other. Especially not with how mutagenic and transient modern western theism is becoming (Not Fundies, the more progressive people). And for those who are going to accuse me of Theism here, I'm Agnostic, if anything.
[QUOTE=Craigewan;28774319] I'm Agnostic, if anything.[/QUOTE] I think this has actually already been stated in this topic but i'm just so damn tired of seeing it. Gnostic and Agnostic are both variations/degrees, either knowing or not knowing. Theist or Atheist are types, believing in a god or not. You can be a Gnostic Atheist, Agnostic Theist, or the opposite. You can't just be an agnostic.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;28774491]I think this has actually already been stated in this topic but i'm just so damn tired of seeing it. Gnostic and Agnostic are both variations/degrees, either knowing or not knowing. Theist or Atheist are types, believing in a god or not. You can be a Gnostic Atheist, Agnostic Theist, or the opposite. You can't just be an agnostic.[/QUOTE] Agnosticism is the acceptance that the truth is unknowable. So, actually, no, you can just be agnostic. You can be Agnostic and accept that either case might be true, you just don't know. That is how Agnosticism is when used in a "religious" stance. It's the acceptance that there *might* be some higher power, there *might* not be. Basically, who knows? "Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable. Agnosticism can be defined in various ways, and is sometimes used to indicate doubt or a skeptical approach to questions. In some senses, agnosticism is a stance about the similarities or differences between belief and knowledge, rather than about any specific claim or belief."
i can make a very well educated guess there is no god but i cant say 100% there is no god nobody can say that and truly believe it but im 99.99% sure that the idea of god was made by people with no access to any science
[QUOTE=Craigewan;28774531]Agnosticism is the acceptance that the truth is unknowable. So, actually, no, you can just be agnostic. You can be Agnostic and accept that either case might be true, you just don't know. That is how Agnosticism is when used in a "religious" stance. It's the acceptance that there *might* be some higher power, there *might* not be. Basically, who knows? "Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable. Agnosticism can be defined in various ways, and is sometimes used to indicate doubt or a skeptical approach to questions. In some senses, agnosticism is a stance about the similarities or differences between belief and knowledge, rather than about any specific claim or belief."[/QUOTE] "I don't know" isn't a stance though. If you don't lean towards either side of the argument, then you're an apatheist or something of the like.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;28774640]"I don't know" isn't a stance though. If you don't lean towards either side of the argument, then you're an apatheist or something of the like.[/QUOTE] No. That is true Agnosticism. What you stated are subdivisions, more specific categories within it. What I've stated is the truth of agnosticism. "I don't know" is a stance, it's an acceptance that neither side has any proof, so the 'truth' of their statements is an unknown value. So the existence of a higher power remains unknowable. It's more of a philosophical stance, maybe, but then all religious stances are to some degree.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;28774640]"I don't know" isn't a stance though. If you don't lean towards either side of the argument, then you're an apatheist or something of the like.[/QUOTE] well i dont know can be a stance just for indecisive people
You know, considering some people still believe the earth in flat, I doubt religion will go extinct.
[QUOTE=J!NX;28774686]You know, considering some people still believe the earth in flat, I doubt religion will go extinct.[/QUOTE] just gas the bastards put them in a glass box and let them drift off
[QUOTE=SeverePapercut;28774674]well i dont know can be a stance just for indecisive people[/QUOTE] Not really, I see no proof one way or another, so I cannot accept or reject the existence of a higher power* (* Not necessarily the God touted by Abrahmic religions, just a/some generic 'higher power')
[QUOTE=SeverePapercut;28774699]just gas the bastards put them in a glass box and let them drift off[/QUOTE] Considered that for a second, then I was thinking, "Boy, this poster sure is worse than them". You remind me of my former o6er self, a pushy arrogant douche bag 12 year old.
[QUOTE=Craigewan;28774666]No. That is true Agnosticism. What you stated are subdivisions, more specific categories within it. What I've stated is the truth of agnosticism. "I don't know" is a stance, it's an acceptance that neither side has any proof, so the 'truth' of their statements is an unknown value. So the existence of a higher power remains unknowable. It's more of a philosophical stance, maybe, but then all religious stances are to some degree.[/QUOTE] No, it's not a stance, it's a quality of your stance. You can say "I don't know" and the only thing that can be followed up with is "and...?". You either lean towards a god, lean away from, or don't care. If you think a god is unknowable and thus you don't lean towards either, that means you don't care/aren't concerned with it.
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