• Religion may become extinct in nine nations, study says
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[QUOTE=sp00ks;28800162]source?[/QUOTE] Just ask a random priest. He'll tell you. I think it's all lies. Find out for yourself, heh.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;28801325]God is the ultimate badass. He expects us to be the best, and when we don't, he punishes us. Also one notable sign of ultimate badassery is that the laws of God are carved in stone, unlike the laws of man written on paper. Not to mention the fact that if you violate the laws of man, you go to prison. But when you break the laws of God.. you go to hell! Motherfuckers :colbert: He has this whole world spinning on his finger like a basketball. Whether you like it or not! :v:[/QUOTE] you should do stand up
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28794074]What are you talking about? Im just saying that just like a belief that the lockness monster is real comes from an ignorance of the local ecosystem it would live in so is a belief of god ignorance of physics or the scientific method. you just get offended easily and your the one making the biggest deal about this.[/QUOTE] how does a belief of an omnipresent diety go against the laws of physics. excuse me for being dumb but please explain it to me Oh, and the Loch Ness Monster may not be a monster as urban legend tells it. However, there have been recent findings of what appears to be a large creature beneath the water's surface. Some scientists theorize the creature could be a species of animal once thought extinct. :eng101: [editline]March 25, 2010[/editline] Oh, and the big thing most people tend to miss when reading the Bible, is the teachings of the apostle Paul. He made as clear as possible in his writings in the New Testament that the old laws stated in the Old Testament were no longer to apply to Christians. It's basically the entire point that disciples were trying to make after Jesus's death. Sacrifice. Old laws = no homo. Old laws do not apply. Therefore, go homo, god has no problem with it.
[QUOTE=joes33431;28805019]how does a belief of an omnipresent diety go against the laws of physics. excuse me for being dumb but please explain it to me Oh, and the Loch Ness Monster may not be a monster as urban legend tells it. However, there have been recent findings of what appears to be a large creature beneath the water's surface.[/QUOTE] There are not enough fish to feed it so It cant exist. before you say what if it eats plants same goes because lockness is a black lake meaning barely any sunlight gets to it. Now to your main point. believing in something without proof comes from an ignorance of how science works. Oh and in the new book there is a passages that say the old book still counts.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28806578]There are not enough fish to feed it so It cant exist. before you say what if it eats plants same goes because lockness is a black lake meaning barely any sunlight gets to it. Now to your main point. believing in something without proof comes from an ignorance of how science works. Oh and in the new book there is a passages that say the old book still counts.[/QUOTE] There was an image macro somewhere, if someone could find it that would be rad. It listed all of the times in the new book where Jesus said that gay people are alright. Also he said a gay guy was the most faithful person in the city.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28806578]There are not enough fish to feed it so It cant exist. before you say what if it eats plants same goes because lockness is a black lake meaning barely any sunlight gets to it. Now to your main point. believing in something without proof comes from an ignorance of how science works. Oh and in the new book there is a passages that say the old book still counts.[/QUOTE] god damn you. every post by you is how you act smart by saying God simply cannot exists because.. we haven't heard from him. It's not about that! Only a fanatic fool blinded by the light would believe so. It's about people, about you and me, about everyone, about how fucked up people can be. And like we all know, the testaments and whatever the fuck are written by different men throughout history, so it's no wonder there's some weird or pointless shit. I can clearly see the goal of religiousness, but obviously you don't.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28806578]believing in something without proof comes from an ignorance of how science works.[/QUOTE] What the hell are you going on about? We haven't found out how life had manifested in a universe of non-living matter yet, should we then say that life doesn't exist? [QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28806578]Oh and in the new book there is a passages that say the old book still counts.[/QUOTE] Quote one, or else your point is invalid due to it being "without proof". Even then, whatever passages you're talking about are likely referencing to the fact that you shouldn't blatantly ignore the Old Testament. Rather absorb as much as you can from it, and rest assured that when you do fuck up, you aren't totally screwed. After all, the basics of these laws are parameters within basic common sense. "Do not murder." Easy. "Do not steal." also pretty basic "Do not sleep with another man's wife and vice versa." still basic. You treat the situation like every law in the Old Testament is impossible to uphold. I can assure you that most people have lived and died without taking someone's life.
[QUOTE=JustGman;28806756]There was an image macro somewhere, if someone could find it that would be rad. It listed all of the times in the new book where Jesus said that gay people are alright. Also he said a gay guy was the most faithful person in the city.[/QUOTE] Yea jesus seemed like a cool guy. But while there were a lot of cool stuff there was still a lot of strange stuff as well. [QUOTE=Gekkosan;28806838]It's about people, about you and me, about everyone, about how fucked up people can be.[/QUOTE] I thought it was about god? Also I dont try to act smart im just making points. I dont get your point religion is about god or other belief. [QUOTE=joes33431;28807135]What the hell are you going on about? We haven't found out how life had manifested in a universe of non-living matter yet, should we then say that life doesn't exist?[/quote] No because [B]we have seen life[/B], We know how it works mostly and we are life so yea its real. The scientific method states that something has to have evidence or proof for you to believe in it and in this way they are ignorant of science.
Even if your beliefs are modern, that is to say you don't believe in creationism, homosexuality being a sin, stuff like that do you still believe in Jesus being the son of God, and that God can and does intervene in our lives? I don't see the belief in a God to be against science or logic, but I struggle to see how people can believe this god is the god of certain religon, such as a Christian God, or that he intervenes, answers prayer that kind of thing. We know enough about the universe and nature to know things follow the laws of physics, evolve on their own accord, how insignificant we are in the midst of it.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;28801325]God is the ultimate badass. He expects us to be the best, and when we don't, he punishes us. Also one notable sign of ultimate badassery is that the laws of God are carved in stone, unlike the laws of man written on paper. Not to mention the fact that if you violate the laws of man, you go to prison. But when you break the laws of God.. you go to hell! Motherfuckers :colbert: He has this whole world spinning on his finger like a basketball. Whether you like it or not! :v:[/QUOTE] God is not badass. The guy tried to create a perfect world, and then failed because he made a snake which then tricked the woman he created into eating the fruit from a tree which he also created. Then later he tried to fix everything by killing nearly every single person in the entire world, and that [I]still[/I] didn't fix anything. And then even later when he was drunk he fucked some virgin girl in a goat herder town and ran off when he found out she was pregnant. His fucking illegitimate child had to try and fix his mistakes, and then he failed too and got stabbed by a bunch of Romans. And now he's just completely given up and spent the last 2000 years watching reruns of Mesopotamia Shores. Badass my ass.
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[QUOTE=joes33431;28807135]Even then, whatever passages you're talking about are likely referencing to the fact that you shouldn't blatantly ignore the Old Testament. Rather absorb as much as you can from it, and rest assured that when you do fuck up, you aren't totally screwed.[/QUOTE] 2 Peter 19-21, New International Version We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. Matthew 5:17-20 New International Version “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
[QUOTE=joes33431;28807135]you're talking about are likely referencing to the fact that you shouldn't blatantly ignore the Old Testament. Rather absorb as much as you can from it, and rest assured that when you do fuck up, you aren't totally screwed.[/QUOTE] Nope says plainly that every word in the old testament is still unchanged. [editline]25th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=joes33431;28807135]You treat the situation like every law in the Old Testament is impossible to uphold. I can assure you that most people have lived and died without taking someone's life.[/QUOTE] No but I do believe there is nothing wrong with being gay.
[QUOTE=joes33431;28807135]What the hell are you going on about? We haven't found out how life had manifested in a universe of non-living matter yet, should we then say that life doesn't exist? [/QUOTE] You are a fucking dumbass. Holy fucking balls. What the fuck is this shit? Are you capable of eating by yourself or someone has to feed you? Just curious. Okay. This is going to be extremely hard for you to comprehend but please do try. It doesn't matter if you don't know how something was created/started you can still say with 100% certainty that the thing exist. For instance I'm holding a glass of coca-cola. I don't know how coca-cola is made, but I can see it in my glass. Holy shit it means coca-cola exist, doesn't it? In conclusion: you are a dumbass.
Wouldn't it be awesome if we had an actual God among us?
Depends if he was the chrisitian god or not.
It wouldn't matter.. God is a God. God damned nitpicker.
This thread makes me laugh.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;28807262]God is not badass. The guy tried to create a perfect world, and then failed because he made a snake which then tricked the woman he created into eating the fruit from a tree which he also created. Then later he tried to fix everything by killing nearly every single person in the entire world, and that [I]still[/I] didn't fix anything. And then even later when he was drunk he fucked some virgin girl in a goat herder town and ran off when he found out she was pregnant. His fucking illegitimate child had to try and fix his mistakes, and then he failed too and got stabbed by a bunch of Romans. And now he's just completely given up and spent the last 2000 years watching reruns of Mesopotamia Shores. Badass my ass.[/QUOTE] I laughed at the part where the atheist completely misinterpreted Christianity.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;28809538]It wouldn't matter.. God is a God. God damned nitpicker.[/QUOTE] Not really, Buddha (not really a god but whatever) is pretty chill but the Christian God, especially that of the old testament, is a total dickbag.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;28809734]Not really, Buddha (not really a god but whatever) is pretty chill but the Christian God, especially that of the old testament, is a total dickbag.[/QUOTE] Uhm okay? You speak of these "Gods" like as if they were exactly like the man-written books describe them. That's just stupid. I like to think of a God in general, not some different version of God, when in reality we cannot even choose God. Or else it would be contrary to the concept of God. And now you can see that it's one big misconception, the existence (or the lack of) of God is not even important. Sooner or later humans will be pretty much akin to God anyway, whatever it is.
[QUOTE=David29;28809630]I laughed at the part where the atheist completely misinterpreted Christianity.[/QUOTE] whats there to misinterpret?
This isn't going to end all wars forever like everyone in this thread seems to think. People will still continue to fight over ideology and resources.
[QUOTE=-Chief-;28809964]This isn't going to end all wars forever like everyone in this thread seems to think. People will still continue to fight over ideology and resources.[/QUOTE] True that. Blame and violence keeps this world spinning.
[QUOTE=-Chief-;28809964]This isn't going to end all wars forever like everyone in this thread seems to think. People will still continue to fight over ideology and resources.[/QUOTE] But its going to stop a lot of war and fighting. Its not the war and fighting that is the worst part its just an illogical belief pushing out science.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28809985]But its going to stop a lot of war and fighting. Its not the war and fighting that is the worst part its just an illogical belief pushing out science.[/QUOTE] So you think it's illogical to believe that people should respect and basically love one another.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;28810080]So you think it's illogical to believe that people should respect and basically love one another.[/QUOTE] I like that strawman. No I believe that faith is illogical because by its very nature it goes against using logic when deciding something. Of course I dont think loving each other is bad its like saying I hate the kkk so you think I hate that they use recyclable napkins or something.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;28809900]Uhm okay? You speak of these "Gods" like as if they were exactly like the man-written books describe them. That's just stupid. I like to think of a God in general, not some different version of God, when in reality we cannot even choose God. Or else it would be contrary to the concept of God. And now you can see that it's one big misconception, the existence (or the lack of) of God is not even important. Sooner or later humans will be pretty much akin to God anyway, whatever it is.[/QUOTE] Ok so you're talking about some deistic/pantheistic god and not like a God god. Well that's pointless then. [QUOTE=Gekkosan;28810080]So you think it's illogical to believe that people should respect and basically love one another.[/QUOTE] Stop misrepresenting his argument, you know he isn't talking about your kind of god/religion, the one no one really has a problem with (beyond it being pointless/silly), he's talking about organized religion.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28810254]I like that strawman. No I believe that faith is illogical because by its very nature it goes against using logic when deciding something. Of course I dont think loving each other is bad its like saying I hate the kkk so you think I hate that they use recyclable napkins or something.[/QUOTE] Faith (n.) complete confidence in a person or plan etc. Faith can be based on logical conclusions, can it not? I have faith in my local police department to bring justice to criminals. I have faith in my doctor to help me when sick or injured. Anyhow, I'd like you to explain your whole "faith is against logic" argument.
You should never have complete confidence in anything. Also have fun with your faith in police when you realize there are many criminals that get away. Not to mention that they way religious people use it does mean without proof.
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