Justice for Trayvon? Brooklyn man may be brain dead after unprovoked hate attack in Union Square - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Melkor;42114649]Show me a well sourced, unbiased scientific source that shows that black people naturally have more muscle mass than white people.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1392.full[/URL] "Biological differences exist in the body composition of blacks and whites. We reviewed literature on the differences and similarities between the 2 races relative to fat-free body mass (water, mineral, and protein), fat patterning, and body dimensions and proportions. In general, blacks have a greater bone mineral density and body protein content than do whites, resulting in a greater fat-free body density."

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42114647]The different here is that im trying to herd a discussion[/QUOTE] Wow, "herding a discussion"? Like we are a bunch of sheep? These ad hominems will not stand.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;42114638]Why is it there in the first place? Also No question marks. Dead serious absolutism.[/QUOTE] he believes the 'justice4trayvon' movement is responsible for this and other similar cases. you can call that dumb or illogical if you want, but there's nothing racist about it. Lamar has not even mentioned black people once, the people calling racism seem to be ignoring the fact that trayvon martin supporters are racially diverse and do not account for any races in their entirety.

[QUOTE=Generic Monk;42114659]you have no right to write off an entire group of people supporting a murdered child just because of a very small minority who might have used it as an excuse to incite violence the whole case was a massive moral grey area - you're perfectly entitled to your opinions about what happened and you're even allowed to support a particular party (though I find the practice tasteless) - but to have actual [b]disdain[/b] for the 'other side'? you're a terrible person[/QUOTE] It's easy to write off that though. You didn't see any faction of the for zimmerman side celebrate by bashing a black persons head into the ground though. You have to look at this objectively and consider multiple viewpoints.

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42114647]The different here is that im trying to herd a discussion rather than going out and bashing somebody on the back of the head because of their skin color. there's quite a parallel between the two to the point where they're not that close as you describe.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying you're being a bad person, I'm saying you're being a bad poster. There's a difference.

[QUOTE=Generic Monk;42114659]you have no right to write off an entire group of people supporting a murdered child just because of a very small minority who might have used it as an excuse to incite violence the whole case was a massive moral grey area - you're perfectly entitled to your opinions about what happened and you're even allowed to support a particular party (though I find the practice tasteless) - but to have actual [b]disdain[/b] for the 'other side'? you're a terrible person[/QUOTE] ok, but how is any of what you just said at all relevant to the accusations of racism?

[QUOTE=Raidyr;42114668]Wow, "herding a discussion"? Like we are a bunch of sheep? These ad hominems will not stand.[/QUOTE] Come on children, stop the semantics, we got racism to discuss rather than the way racism is worded.

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42114674]It's easy to write off that though. [B]You didn't see any faction of the for zimmerman side celebrate by bashing a black persons head into the ground though[/B]. You have to look at this objectively and consider multiple viewpoints.[/QUOTE] in what strange universe do you live in where being upset about what you perceive as institutionalized racial injustice and being happy about someone being acquitted of murder charges are similar motives for crime

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42114683]Come on children, stop the semantics, we got racism to discuss rather than the way racism is worded.[/QUOTE] condescending to people isn't civil.

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42114662]I stand up for civil debating.[/QUOTE] You obviously don't give a shit about civil debating. What a laughable thing to say. [QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42114214] It doesn't matter to me if he's wrong or not. I'm indifferent to the title claim since I don't get my nuts bunched up over a three word phrase. Every fucking thread he makes has the same group of people come in and sidetrack the discussion by shit flinging and it's fucking silly how the only bans for that are the people who call them out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kopimi;42114693]in what strange universe do you live in where being upset about what you perceive as institutionalized racial injustice and being happy about someone being acquitted of murder charges are similar motives for crime[/QUOTE] I huh? I'm saying that you have to look at it from the other side. Nobody supporting zimmerman got in groups and started lynching people. Where as the same happened in more than a dozen instances on the pro trayvon side. It's easy to form an opinion from that.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;42114693]in what strange universe do you live in where being upset about what you perceive as institutionalized racial injustice and being happy about someone being acquitted of murder charges are similar motives for crime[/QUOTE] I have encountered many white people who believe that ''anti-white racism'' has taken over the U.S and is stripping them of their rights. so this: '' being upset about what you perceive as institutionalized racial injustice'' is likely what a lot of zimmerman supporters feel. disclaimer: I do not agree with these people, I think they're fucking idiots. but they exist.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42114710]I have encountered many white people who believe that they ''anti-white racism'' has taken over the U.S and is stripping them of their rights. so this: '' being upset about what you perceive as institutionalized racial injustice'' is likely what a lot of zimmerman supporters feel. disclaimer: I do not agree with these people, I think they're fucking idiots. but they exist.[/QUOTE] why the fuck would zimmerman supporters feel persecuted by their guy going free??

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42114698]condescending to people isn't civil.[/QUOTE] Arguing semantics in a post arguing semantics.

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42114674]It's easy to write off that though. You didn't see any faction of the for zimmerman side celebrate by bashing a black persons head into the ground though. You have to look at this objectively and consider multiple viewpoints.[/QUOTE] because the trayvon supporter base is naturally going to contain poorer, more disadvantaged people (because the black population in the US is statistically poorer and more disadvantaged) who are more likely to use the case as an excuse for an act of violence - it's the same principle as those riots in islamic countries when that 'innocence of muslims' film was released - most people weren't offended about the film but they used it as an excuse to let out some nebulous anger they felt due to living in poorer, disadvantaged, despotic countries and what group of people is going to go 'oh, we got what we wanted, let's go crack some black guy's skull to prove a point!'

[QUOTE=Kopimi;42114714]why the fuck would zimmerman supporters feel persecuted by their guy going free??[/QUOTE] I'm saying it would just be a general feeling they have, and the events leading up to the trial could have been potential triggers for acts of violence.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;42114714]why the fuck would zimmerman supporters feel persecuted by their guy going free??[/QUOTE] The entire media fiasco was racially motivated. I could see how some white people might feel like Zimmerman's life was destroyed because of the color of his skin.

[QUOTE=Generic Monk;42114720]because the trayvon supporter base is naturally going to contain poorer, more disadvantaged people (because the black population in the US is statistically poorer and more disadvantaged) who are more likely to use the case as an excuse for an act of violence - it's the same principle as those riots in islamic countries when that 'innocence of muslims' film was released - most people weren't offended about the film but they used it as an excuse to let out some nebulous anger they felt at the system[/QUOTE] I don't see blacks or muslims as poorer or more likely to riot so I'm sorry if I treat them like equal people rather than degenerates that need a step up. Dude nice editing the post. I almost didnt catch that.

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42114716]Arguing semantics in a post arguing semantics.[/QUOTE] no i'm just pointing out that you're not about civil debating at all, you're about defending your point by acting like anyone against you is being uncivil

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42114731]no i'm just pointing out that you're not about civil debating at all, you're about defending your point by acting like anyone against you is being uncivil[/QUOTE] I was being sarcastic in that post since the debate has been over for pages now and were arguing about the first three words of the title.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42114731]no i'm just pointing out that you're not about civil debating at all, you're about defending your point by acting like anyone against you is being uncivil[/QUOTE] the irony

[QUOTE=Lamar;42113432]I've told myself some time ago not to debate with traybots, but I didn't proclaim the assailant was motivated by the Trayvon martin case. I suggested it, hence the question mark in the title. Its pretty obvious though that Zimmerman verdict could be the motivation for this violent assault when you take into account the similar killings have already taken place after the verdict. I'm pretty sure this is the case, but I didn't proclaim it in the OP or in the title.[/QUOTE] you're really disgusting

Paul, most of your posts dont make any real sense, what are you even whining about?

[QUOTE=_jesterk;42114744]the irony[/QUOTE] hey mate i specifically said i'm not about being civil to racists/people supporting racists nothing ironic here

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42114727]I don't see blacks or muslims as poorer or more likely to riot so I'm sorry if I treat them like equal people rather than degenerates that need a step up.[/QUOTE] More likely to riot? Comes with life circumstances, not race of course. Poorer? Statistically the black population in the US IS poorer. But that's obviously not the issue here.

[QUOTE=_jesterk;42114744]the irony[/QUOTE] how is that ironic do you know what irony means

[QUOTE=Generic Monk;42114720] and what group of people is going to go 'oh, we got what we wanted, let's go crack some black guy's skull to prove a point!'[/QUOTE] well, likely a group stupid enough to think white people are 3rd class citizens in the modern world.

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42114737]I was being sarcastic in that post since the debate has been over for pages now and were arguing about the first three words of the title.[/QUOTE] okay nevermind then

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42114757]hey mate i specifically said i'm not about being civil to racists/people supporting racists nothing ironic here[/QUOTE] i didn't mean you :v

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42114727]I don't see blacks or muslims as poorer or more likely to riot so I'm sorry if I treat them like equal people rather than degenerates that need a step up. Dude nice editing the post. I almost didnt catch that.[/QUOTE] i added an extra line to my post good job sherlock you might be able to guess which one it is because it's the one at the end separated by an empty line