A real functioning WiiU emulator has been released - Polidicks

darn, I am part of the wii hacking crowd and definitely did not expect something like this for several years. The wiiu, like the wii, still is on the powerPC architecture. The biggest difference from the wii is tht it doesnt really seem to run on the "metal" anymore, there seems to be an actual OS in play here. This means it will be much harder to emulate. also, the wii and gamecube were easier to emulate because their graphics werent that high end (the wii basically still uses the same graphics card as the gamecube but overclocked a bit) But the wii u, on the other hand, has a much more advanced graphics card inside, which means it will take some pretty high end hardware to emulate it. I believe it will take 5-10 years before PCs that can run wii u games at an acceptable framerate will come around. emulation is no small task

[QUOTE=da space core;48893810]darn, I am part of the wii hacking crowd and definitely did not expect something like this for several years. The wiiu, like the wii, still is on the powerPC architecture. The biggest difference from the wii is tht it doesnt really seem to run on the "metal" anymore, there seems to be an actual OS in play here. This means it will be much harder to emulate. also, the wii and gamecube were easier to emulate because their graphics werent that high end (the wii basically still uses the same graphics card as the gamecube but overclocked a bit) But the wii u, on the other hand, has a much more advanced graphics card inside, which means it will take some pretty high end hardware to emulate it. I believe it will take 5-10 years before PCs that can run wii u games at an acceptable framerate will come around. emulation is no small task[/QUOTE] I think the bigger issue is that the Wii U's processor is much better than the Wii's because the Wii's was so similar to the GameCube's, so it's much more taxing to simulate CPU cycles.

[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48893785]I'd be interested to see how it runs on a workstation [editline]13th October 2015[/editline] if I were to have, say, 32 GB of RAM, a 5930K, and a 980 Ti I could probably get a solid 10 FPS out of that[/QUOTE] ... Why the increase in ram? Anyway the single biggest "bottleneck" right now is probably the interpreter being slow as fuck, as usual.

[QUOTE=Makol;48893795]Wonder why it isn't officially listed as a supported controller on the old and new boxes.[/QUOTE] Weird, I have the digital version that came with the Wind Waker bundle so I have no idea.

[QUOTE=gman003-main;48893585]The Wii U isn't particularly complex to emulate. The CPU is basically a triple-core PowerPC 750, a very well-understood architecture (used on the Wii and Gamecube, as well as a bunch of old Macs). The GPU is TeraScale, also pretty well-known from Linux display drivers. Three cores and a GPU is a fairly limited amount of parallelism, not too hard to keep in sync. That's what's kept the PS3 from being emulated well (along with no documentation on the SPU cores), and what good emulators of early consoles spend most of their time on. And it's not very high-powered, so even an unoptimized version like this is working at testable speeds. Not playable, but you don't need to run overnight just to get to the main menu.[/QUOTE] No, I get all that. What I meant was that these people seem to not even conform to the standards in releasing the thing. I know it's legit but was it legitimately made by them and not a "leak" from some Nintendo dev-kit/sdk? Is it just a PoC and hence 1.0.0? Until I see the source code I'll be skeptic.

[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48893828]I think the bigger issue is that the Wii U's processor is much better than the Wii's because the Wii's was so similar to the GameCube's, so it's much more taxing to simulate CPU cycles.[/QUOTE] sort of. The wii basically is an overclocked gamecube processor. The wii u processor is basically a tricore version of the wii processor, which complicates things

[QUOTE=Makol;48892970]Only games I can think of is a Kirby game and Wind Waker HD. [editline]13th October 2015[/editline] Also this emulator isn't open source.[/QUOTE] WW definitely does not, you can play with a pro u controller [editline]13th October 2015[/editline] how exactly do I get roms anyways?

[QUOTE=J!NX;48893937]WW definitely does not, you can play with a pro u controller [editline]13th October 2015[/editline] how exactly do I get roms anyways?[/QUOTE] I was already corrected about that. I was going off what the back of the WWHD box says for what controllers are supported.

[QUOTE=J!NX;48893937]WW definitely does not, you can play with a pro u controller [editline]13th October 2015[/editline] how exactly do I get roms anyways?[/QUOTE] There's no legal way to get ROMs you silly goose :~)

[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48894011]There's no legal way to get ROMs you silly goose :~)[/QUOTE] Ripping them yourself.

[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48893828]I think the bigger issue is that the Wii U's processor is much better than the Wii's because the Wii's was so similar to the GameCube's, so it's much more taxing to simulate CPU cycles.[/QUOTE] The Wii U's CPU cores are not significantly better than the Wii's. They're like a couple hundred megahertz faster, and the same architecture. There is the problem of it being triple-core instead of single, but that just complicates the synchronization that was already needed for CPU/GPU sync.

[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48894011]There's no legal way to get ROMs you silly goose :~)[/QUOTE] He asked how, not how to do it legally. I'm curious about how roms are ripped too in this case.

[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48894011]There's no legal way to get ROMs you silly goose :~)[/QUOTE] i thought if you owned the game it was okay to download the ROM for it? am i incorrect?

[QUOTE=Minimal;48893602]Do we even have a fully working 3DS Emulator? I wanna play Animal Crossing New Leaf.[/QUOTE] Well, you can wait years for them to develop, or you can pick up a refurbished 3DS from Nintendo's outlet for pretty cheap. [editline]13th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Anti Christ;48894048]i thought if you owned the game it was okay to download the ROM for it? am i incorrect?[/QUOTE] What Nintendo has to say about it: [QUOTE=https://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#download_rom]Can I Download a Nintendo ROM from the Internet if I Already Own the Authentic Game? There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a "second copy" rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anti Christ;48894048]i thought if you owned the game it was okay to download the ROM for it? am i incorrect?[/QUOTE] This is a legal grey area that has not been definitively answered. According to the EULA, you may not make copies of a game even if you own it - backup copies are forbidden. That clause of the EULA may be unenforceable, in which case the law allows for making your own archival copies but not distribute them. The laws against copyright infringement do not have explicit exceptions for "you already own a copy and want a backup". However, since the work is licensed not sold (ie. you didn't pay for "a copy", you paid for "a license to use the work (as stored on the medium)"), the infringement laws may not actually apply. Ethically, you're in the clear. You paid them for the game, if you want to run it on an emulator instead, you should be able to do so. But ethics doesn't seem to count for much in modern copyright law.

[QUOTE=eirexe;48894032]Ripping them yourself.[/QUOTE] It's not legal to make copies of a disc without the Rightful Copyright Owner's permission

[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48894101]It's not legal to make copies of a disc without the Rightful Copyright Owner's permission[/QUOTE]What about copies for personal use? As far as I know law says that's okay.

[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48894101]It's not legal to make copies of a disc without the Rightful Copyright Owner's permission[/QUOTE] If you're not getting any money from it it's perfectly fine. It's the distributing of the copied product that becomes sketchy

[QUOTE=Itauske Roken;48894163]If you're not getting any money from it it's perfectly fine. It's the distributing of the copied product that becomes sketchy[/QUOTE] So I suspect if anyone got in trouble it would be the distributor and not the user.

[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;48894055]Well, you can wait years for them to develop, or you can pick up a refurbished 3DS from Nintendo's outlet for pretty cheap. [editline]13th October 2015[/editline] What Nintendo has to say about it:[/QUOTE] Honestly nintendo even says that emulation is illegal, I wouldn't trust them.

[QUOTE=eirexe;48894183]Honestly nintendo even says that emulation is illegal, I wouldn't trust them.[/QUOTE]What nintendo says doesn't matter as they're not the law.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;48894193]What nintendo says doesn't matter as they're not the law.[/QUOTE] Yeah that's what I'm trying to say, It's very well known that nintendo's site on emulation contains some big lies.

[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48894101]It's not legal to make copies of a disc without the Rightful Copyright Owner's permission[/QUOTE] yes it is. distribution to the public is another matter however [editline]13th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Sand Castle;48894169]So I suspect if anyone got in trouble it would be the distributor and not the user.[/QUOTE] ...yes. ISPs and distributors don't go after their clients that aren't distributing

[QUOTE=eirexe;48894032]Ripping them yourself.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=itisjuly;48894038]He asked how, not how to do it legally. I'm curious about how roms are ripped too in this case.[/QUOTE] I have a bunch of nintendo games, I'd love to know how to rip them

I'm curious as to whether this means we'll eventually get to mod the newest installment of Smash Brothers. Making custom characters for SSBB was tons of fun.

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Finally I can experience Sonic Boom without having to buy a Wii U and without having to download the 1.1 patch that fixes the Knuckles glitch

[QUOTE=eirexe;48894032]Ripping them yourself.[/QUOTE] Last time I checked the people who know how to dump wii u games hasn't released any information on how to do so :/