Dual source: Ex-Shell president sees $5 gas in 2012 - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Regulas021;27062252]And we'll harvest that electricity from...what, the sky? No, we'll burn oil[/QUOTE] We should find better ways. Oil is terrible for this, we can find better ways.

[QUOTE=Regulas021;27062252]And we'll harvest that electricity from...what, the sky? No, we'll burn oil[/QUOTE] Yes, we'll use what they call "solar panels."

[QUOTE=ThatHippyMan;27062362]Yes, we'll use what they call "solar panels."[/QUOTE] Windmills just right outside the coastline is usually a better idea, since current solar panel technology is lacking behind in efficiency, especially compared to windmills. [IMG]http://multimedia.pol.dk/archive/00388/Bes_g_i_vindm_lle_388783y.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Van-man;27062682]Windmills just right outside the coastline is usually a better idea, since current solar panel technology is lacking behind in efficiency, especially compared to windmills. [img_thumb]http://multimedia.pol.dk/archive/00388/Bes_g_i_vindm_lle_388783y.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Wind mills aren't that clean. they require a lot of oil to operate and also fuck with winds and and wind patterns in the region of the wind mills. Underwater wave power would be better than this, but all the same, nuclear is better.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;27062732]Wind mills aren't that clean. they require a lot of oil to operate and also fuck with winds and and wind patterns in the region of the wind mills. Underwater wave power would be better than this, but all the same, nuclear is better.[/QUOTE] We won't have nuclear energy until everyone who lived through the Red Scare is dead.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;27062732]Wind mills aren't that clean. they require a lot of oil to operate and also fuck with winds and and wind patterns in the region of the wind mills. Underwater wave power would be better than this, but all the same, nuclear is better.[/QUOTE] They also emit high frequencies that fuck with migratory birds

[QUOTE=ThatHippyMan;27062214]Good thing I have a motorcycle that gets 43 MPG.[/QUOTE] that's not that much for a motorcycle what motorcycle is it?

[QUOTE=JDK721;27062990]that's not that much for a motorcycle what motorcycle is it?[/QUOTE] 43 city, sorry. It's a Boulevard S50.

[QUOTE=ThatHippyMan;27062767]We won't have nuclear energy until everyone who lived through the Red Scare is dead.[/QUOTE] Either that or they become just a minute minority.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;27062976]They also emit high frequencies that fuck with migratory birds[/QUOTE] Also, due to fact we're planting more trees now, wind levels in Europe have fallen, or it seems like it. Then again, this is only measure 10 metres above the ground, compared to the 40-50 metre heights wind turbines operate on. Neat demonstration that we really have no idea the long term effects of what seem like fairly basic changes to the enviroment can cause, though.

For some reason, everything is going to be great in 2012.

[QUOTE=Glaber;27063247]Either that or they become just a minute minority.[/QUOTE] Glaber, realize that the right is helping keep the "red scare" alive even today. It's just terrorists instead of communists now.

Well it doesn't help with Iran and North Korea seeking Nukes.

[QUOTE=Glaber;27067228]Well it doesn't help with Iran and North Korea seeking Nukes.[/QUOTE] nukes and nuclear power are so fucking far apart... And yeah, they want nukes, because all their enemies have nukes.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;27067306]nukes and nuclear power are so fucking far apart... And yeah, they want nukes, because all their enemies have nukes.[/QUOTE] They want to be JUST like their idols :allears:

Walk really Stop being typical lazy Americans

Lazy? Not all of us work with in walking distance.

[QUOTE=Glaber;27075156]Lazy? Not all of us work with in walking distance.[/QUOTE] but then again 74% of your population is overweight, with as much as 26% being obese. so even if they were within walking distance, would they still walk?

[QUOTE=Afgman;27067711]Walk really Stop being typical lazy Americans[/QUOTE] Oh ok then you've got 15 minutes to walk 11 miles GOGOGO. [editline]30th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Cloak Raider;27076171]but then again 74% of your population is overweight, with as much as 26% being obese. so even if they were within walking distance, would they still walk?[/QUOTE] Yes they would, because if it was in walking distance it would be a crowded urban area most likely, and a cab ride in New York costs $7 for just under 1 mile. The reason for so much obesity is because the healthiest foods are by far the most difficult to get and most expensive.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;27077615]Oh ok then you've got 15 minutes to walk 11 miles GOGOGO.[/QUOTE] says who? if you have a long commuting trip then leave earlier. 11 miles isn't that far.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;27062732]nuclear is better.[/QUOTE] This. We need more nuclear plants. They produce way less waste than people think, and they're pretty safe these days.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;27077615]Oh ok then you've got 15 minutes to walk 11 miles GOGOGO. [editline]30th December 2010[/editline] Yes they would, because if it was in walking distance it would be a crowded urban area most likely, and a cab ride in New York costs $7 for just under 1 mile. The reason for so much obesity is because the healthiest foods are by far the most difficult to get and most expensive.[/QUOTE] I used to walk the 2-3 miles to work and the same back again five days a week, before I went to uni. If you work a little futher out, cycle. It's not only healthy and environmentally friendly, but importantly it's a damn sight cheaper. I now commute 10 miles to uni five days a week by bus, and that isn't too bad either.

[QUOTE=JDK721;27081426]says who? if you have a long commuting trip then leave earlier. 11 miles isn't that far.[/QUOTE] I live 13 miles from where I work, and it's pretty cold right now. :ohdear:

[QUOTE=JDK721;27081426]says who? if you have a long commuting trip then leave earlier. 11 miles isn't that far.[/QUOTE] Ok work starts at 7 you need half an hour to get ready. At a decent jogging speed of 6 mph you're going to need nearly 2 to get there. I suppose that instead of using a car you should wake up at 4:30, jog to work, work for 9 hours, and jog back. Awesome, especially for the majority of US citizens who have absolutely 0 public transportation that's anywhere near decent. Oh and its 25F outside.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;27083979]Ok work starts at 7 you need half an hour to get ready. At a decent jogging speed of 6 mph you're going to need nearly 2 to get there. I suppose that instead of using a car you should wake up at 4:30, jog to work, work for 9 hours, and jog back. Awesome, especially for the majority of US citizens who have absolutely 0 public transportation that's anywhere near decent. Oh and its 25F outside.[/QUOTE] Or worse, -20F and it's snowing.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;27061124]We should be on nuclear power. Nuclear power is much safer, much cleaner, much less hazourdous. It should be the primary source of energy, but for vehicles? I'm not sure where we go to power them.[/QUOTE] the problem is that nuclear power is one of the most energy intensive programs in the world and costs loads of money that this country, and other countries, don't have.

[QUOTE=Moose;27162957]the problem is that nuclear power is one of the most energy intensive programs in the world and costs loads of money that this country, and other countries, don't have.[/QUOTE] How the fuck is one of the most powerful ways of generating electricity "energy intensive"? Do you mean the initial construction cost of the reactor?

[QUOTE=Prismatex;27163172]How the fuck is one of the most powerful ways of generating electricity "energy intensive"? Do you mean the initial construction cost of the reactor?[/QUOTE] yeah, that and the enrichment of uranium itself can take years to accomplish.. it might not get results fast enough for the peace of mind the world is looking for

[QUOTE=Moose;27163263]yeah, that and the enrichment of uranium itself can take years to accomplish.. it might not get results fast enough for the peace of mind the world is looking for[/QUOTE] What about the United States? We're already enriching uranium for nuclear power; why not just enrich/use more?

[QUOTE=Moose;27163263]yeah, that and the enrichment of uranium itself can take years to accomplish.. it might not get results fast enough for the peace of mind the world is looking for[/QUOTE] With demand the problem of "how much can we enrich" disappears, as more places are needed, more will pop up. Once it's importance is realized that is. And you don't even need to use Uranium. Thorium is more efficient and more common on earth so we can start using that instead. Hell, there's so many options with reactors and nuclear power programs that people just aren't aware of that would ease a lot of peoples minds.