US shootings by police, prison conditions trouble UN - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Cone;46601827]so this is a weird aside but has south park actually made the nazi sociopath character into its new mouthpiece or was there some satire you missed out on. genuinely curious i haven't watched it in a while[/QUOTE] Nah it was from an episode where Eric's toy dolls were being "murdered", so he decided to hide at Token's house because "black people are somehow incapable of doing something wrong" and thus it would be safe. But the fact that people are actually acting like there's zero chance Brown did anything wrong reminds me of that comment.

[QUOTE=MachiniOs;46601939]And then you get situation where SWAT raid a house unnessecarily and throw a flash bang into a crib.[/QUOTE] As if the officers intended to throw it into the crib. Terrible example.

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46600029]Next they will write an angry letter written in red ink, RED.[/QUOTE] and America will wipe its ass with it, only to come away clean, because America gave no shits.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;46601976]As if the officers intended to throw it into the crib. Terrible example.[/QUOTE] This is the kind of shit that happens when you storm people's homes to control what they put in their bodies. You assume responsibility for all collateral damage the moment you decide to throw a grenade into the house of a sleeping family.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46602127]I have a feeling the vast majority of everyone's complaints about the police would vanish if the "war on drugs" wasn't still happening. Sure there'd still be some issues.[/QUOTE] Nah, we could live in the most peaceful perfect society, and people would still complain "fucking pig pulled me over for speeding, what gives him the right blah blah blah"

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;46602548]Nah, we could live in the most peaceful perfect society, and people would still complain "fucking pig pulled me over for speeding, what gives him the right blah blah blah"[/QUOTE] There is a point to be made however that the war on drugs has severely damaged the image of the police, especially in poor areas. Even police officers dislike it for that reason.

The problem with the UN is that it's basically only backed by the US, which means whenever the US or it's allies does something bad, the UN can't do much about it. [editline]29th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=MachiniOs;46601939]And then you get situation where SWAT raid a house unnessecarily and throw a flash bang into a crib.[/QUOTE] And subsequently 7 pages arguing with a guy that is somehow a mod despite his shitposting and hates cops.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;46601976]As if the officers intended to throw it into the crib. Terrible example.[/QUOTE] Maybe SWAT teams shouldn't be throwing flashbangs into the houses of non-violent suspects. They never intended it sure but eventually something like that is going to happen.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;46602777]Maybe SWAT teams shouldn't be throwing flashbangs into the houses of non-violent suspects. They never intended it sure but eventually something like that is going to happen.[/QUOTE] Or shooting peoples' dogs and then finding absolutely nothing incriminating in the entire house. SWAT teams should be used in hostage situations and very little else. Respond to violent criminals with violence - don't respond to a non-violent crime in a violent way.

[QUOTE=Plattack;46601134]Well to be fair we don't need that many guns and we don't need the police as heavily armed as they are.[/QUOTE] We don't need that many guns, but it's too late to go the other direction and get rid of them, and I think the police should have access to whatever the public has access to, and that includes Armored vehicles the military was going to scrap. One saved lives during North Hollywood, and you can't easily torch them like those police cars in Ferguson or any other riots. They aren't really needed unless shit really goes down then you're thankful they had a couple

[QUOTE=.Isak.;46601611]The militarization isn't about cops carrying AR15's around. The militarization is about how SWAT teams have exploded in size and frequency of use. SWAT teams weren't nearly as common in the past as they now are, even though violent crime has been decreasing year after year for over a decade and it's at an all-time low. It's not at all about cops carrying scarier weapons - it's about heavily-militarized SWAT teams rolling up in APCs with heavy weaponry and full body armor to no-knock arrest somebody who's growing marijuana in their garage. It's very much related to the drug war, and it's a disproportionate response to a non-violent crime. I totally agree that police need SWAT teams for certain situations, but they're incredibly overused in situations that absolutely do not require them.[/QUOTE] Mission creep. [editline]29th November 2014[/editline] They're called in for more than hostages, they're called in whenever something or someone could be armed and dangerous. Unfortunatly that 'armed and dangerous' has expanded out because cops have gone in not feeling in danger and been gunned down suddenly by a AK74 clone with a full auto assembly. And vice versa, the super paranoid officers calling in SWAT because a dog barked at them. [editline]29th November 2014[/editline] As for the prisons, underfunded state systems, for profit private systems and the war on drugs/zero tolerance policies have basically overstuffed prisons past designed capacity.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;46601976]As if the officers intended to throw it into the crib. Terrible example.[/QUOTE] The officer shouldn't have even been there, there was no need for a SWAT team at all. [editline]30th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=TornadoAP;46602717] And subsequently 7 pages arguing with a guy that is somehow a mod despite his shitposting and hates cops.[/QUOTE] Am I missing something here?