[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45939065]if somebody digs into this whole shit they would find enough about both rebels and Ukrainian officials.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully someone does dig.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45939065]No proof, waste of time, not acting logically. Also that would let a real internation ivnestigation to commense and Kiyv sure doesn't want anyone finding anything out.
Not saying Putin did nothing wrong, but if somebody digs into this whole shit they would find enough about both rebels and Ukrainian officials.[/QUOTE]
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what a surprise
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;45940558][img]http://facepunch.com/fp/flags/ru.png[/img]
what a surprise[/QUOTE]
That's about 15th time this joke has been made.
I think you should check your US privilege.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45941403]That's about 15th time this joke has been made.
I think you should check your US privilege.[/QUOTE]
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what a surprise[/QUOTE]
Does that make him wrong?
He is right, I'm sure you would find shady dealing from the Ukrainian government if you tried.
Banning parties
Trying to disband parliament to get rid of party of regions supports
influential right wing guys
Part of the IMF loan to ukraine conditions included privatisation of public resources. Petro has already been accused of corruption regarding privatisation which lost the ukrainian people millions of dollars, before the US started to like him he had a number of such accusations both from US and from other Ukrainian officials. This in mind its not a hard stretch to picture a certain amount of corruption and nepotism about to take place in Ukraine with regard to its national assets. Now hes a good guy and NATO like him, so I'm sure he'll stop and there will be no mention of this kind thing.
Funding for the militia groups might also be a nice place to look, as would them stealing gas from the pipe lines supplying the rest of europe.
As for the rebels and their bad stuff, some has already been revealed by our presses.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;45935315]Russians will justify this
damn it wasted my 10000 post on this[/QUOTE]
I don't think it's a waste when you were right about it.
what the fuck are you doing putler
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I think that it is more than justified for us to call Russia out on their propaganda. They still haven't said a single word of condolence or apologies to us for the MH17 disaster, and the only thing they sprout is that all the blame is on Ukraine because the plane went down there, conventionally ignoring the fact that Russian(-backed?) mercenaries shot down the plane in the first place. Hell, they are even shouting out now that the recent report on the disaster is biased because Ukraine helped with the investigation.
It is like Libya under Gadhaffi would place the blame on the Lockerbie bombing at Scotland because the plane crashed there. Putin posters are literally the worst.
[QUOTE=Jordax;45943162]I think that it is more than justified for us to call Russia out on their propaganda. They still haven't said a single word of condolence or apologies to us for the MH17 disaster, and the only thing they sprout is that all the blame is on Ukraine because the plane went down there, conventionally ignoring the fact that Russian(-backed?) mercenaries shot down the plane in the first place. Hell, they are even shouting out now that the recent report on the disaster is biased because Ukraine helped with the investigation.
It is like Libya under Gadhaffi would place the blame on the Lockerbie bombing at Scotland because the plane crashed there. Putin posters are literally the worst.[/QUOTE]
They did say a lot of words of condolence to the people who died on MH17 and their relatives.
Your own commitee hasn't proven that "Russian backed mercaneries" shot down the plane.
How about you wait till your own investigators finish their investigation and give you some actual facts to talk about?
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45943287]They did say a lot of words of condolence to the people who died on MH17 and their relatives.
Your own commitee hasn't proven that "Russian backed mercaneries" shot down the plane.
How about you wait till your own investigators finish their investigation and give you some actual facts to talk about?[/QUOTE]
But later you'll just say it's western propaganda, you don't care about the investigation, you're just full of shit because you're being ruled by shit pro-soviet politicians and your people are OK with it.
[editline]10th September 2014[/editline]
There sure isn't anything suspicious about someone that wins an election with 140% of the population voting. The fetuses must have voted.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;45943327]But later you'll just say it's western propaganda, you don't care about the investigation, you're just full of shit because you're being ruled by shit pro-soviet politicians and your people are OK with it.
[editline]10th September 2014[/editline]
There sure isn't anything suspicious about someone that wins an election with 140% of the population voting. The fetuses must have voted.[/QUOTE]
That shit is unrelated. It doesn't matter what I or anyone else will say.
[b]The investigation is not finished[/b] so it's all irrelevant.
No facts, face it. Without any "you are russian" jokes.
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