[FOX NEWS] - Global Warming Doesn't Exist! (Socialist Theory) - Polidicks

[QUOTE=The Pretender;31651288]Yeah, because people who are skeptical of a [B]theory[/B] are obviously dumb, right? It's completely possible, but that doesn't mean it is a real fact.[/QUOTE] It's like being sceptical of evolution. It's fucking retarded.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;31651954]IIRC, doesn't the ocean generate the most oxygen through the plants that live within it? Wouldn't we all just suffocate by that point?[/QUOTE] Ocean generates something like 50-70% of earths oxygen from phytoplankton. Acidification damages calcium exoskeletons of various crustaceans and plankton making them more susceptible to the environment. If it get's too bad it will eventually just kill the organism itself (on a planktonic level). This combined with temperature increasing will greatly damage the plankton populations, not only putting stress on oxygen production, but also the other tropic levels that need the plankton to start the food chain. You could argue that more CO2 into the ocean would help the Plankton grow, while this may be true for awhile(I don't know what the current data suggests, if the plankton are dying or growing right now know I'm just covering all my bases) It will eventually collapse if nothing is done about it. It's like a chain smoker with lung cancer. Continuing to smoke is not helping anything and prolonging any chance of recovery in the future.

[QUOTE=The Pretender;31651207]It's not agreed by all, there's more of a stalemate than anything.[/QUOTE] no it's not a "stalemate". the "controversy" surrounding anthropogenic global warming is a manufactured controversy, created with the intent of protecting the interests of those entities whose profits would be harmed by acceptance of the existence of anthropogenic global warming.

[QUOTE=Killuah;31651986]Your argument is "it happened before" completely ignoring the time-windows you are talking about.[/QUOTE] My argument is that nature repeats itself when in a cycle like this

[QUOTE=joost1120;31652402]My argument is that nature repeats itself when in a cycle like this[/QUOTE] Can people affect this change?

Who cares if it is or it isn't, we should just be more efficient, and self-sustaining. We need to use less fossil fuels, and starting looking at alternative forms of energy, because we are running out of fuel.

[QUOTE=joost1120;31652402]My argument is that nature repeats itself when in a cycle like this[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-natural-cycle.htm]Nope[/url]

I don't give a shit personally if we caused it or not, it's still a problem that scientists are saying will have disastrous effects for the human race. If it is caused naturally, then why are we not doing something to prevent the effects of global warming? Honestly, this is like saying we shouldn't prepare for a giant tsunami that's about to slam into our house because [U]we[/U] didn't cause it.

[QUOTE=joost1120;31651564]No. I never said that there was no such thing as global warming. Sure, it's accelerated, but it happened before too. Exactly the same happened before.[/QUOTE] Yes, there is a natural cycle. Over, if I recall correctly, many thousands of years, maybe hundreds of thousands (I don't have my old notes with me), the natural amount of CO2 in the atmosphere oscillated between 180 ppm and 280 ppm. The temperature would change accordingly. The current amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is 390 ppm. The sharp rise started at the start of the Industrial Revolution. [QUOTE=The Pretender;31651288]Yeah, because people who are skeptical of a [B]theory[/B] are obviously dumb, right? It's completely possible, but that doesn't mean it is a real fact.[/QUOTE] I really can't wait for that app that lets you hit people over the internet. You have absolutely no idea what the word "theory" means in scientific terms, do you. [QUOTE=sp00ks;31651609]On one side, there's the entire scientific community saying it is man made. On the other side, there are conservative bloggers and TV show hosts saying it's not.[/QUOTE] Well, that's not being fair! There's more than just conservative talking heads on the other side! There's also several scientific studies. (Conducted and paid for by oil companies.) Those CAN'T be biased at all!

The absolute worst part about all this, is that it's no surprise these idiots would say such a thing.

[QUOTE=willer;31653133]I don't give a shit personally if we caused it or not, it's still a problem that scientists are saying will have disastrous effects for the human race. If it is caused naturally, then why are we not doing something to prevent the effects of global warming? Honestly, this is like saying we shouldn't prepare for a giant tsunami that's about to slam into our house because [U]we[/U] didn't cause it.[/QUOTE] good point

The fact that people can't accept that it's a combination of natural and unnatural reasons is kind of an example of how we currently work as a whole. We keep thinking in absolutes, one or the other, no middle ground, no grey area. Everyone tries to think entirely in black and white, and it's starting to piss me off.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;31653371]The fact that people can't accept that it's a combination of natural and unnatural reasons is kind of an example of how we currently work as a whole. We keep thinking in absolutes, one or the other, no middle ground, no grey area. Everyone tries to think entirely in black and white, and it's starting to piss me off.[/QUOTE] Because it [B]is[/B] man-made. Not natural. There isn't a grey area.

[QUOTE=Taishu;31652169]It's like being sceptical of evolution. It's fucking retarded.[/QUOTE] Evolution is a theory, its a theory I support but it is still theory.

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;31653490]Evolution is a theory, its a theory I support but it is still theory.[/QUOTE] A theory is something that has a shitload of provable evidence behind it and has been tested over and over and had similar results. It's basically a proven fact that has some leeway to it just in case someone finds some ground breaking evidence that it didn't occur.

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;31653490]Evolution is a theory, its a theory I support but it is still theory.[/QUOTE] Wow... Really? [url]http://www.notjustatheory.com/[/url] This was posted like, what? Twenty posts ago?

[QUOTE=The Pretender;31651288]Yeah, because people who are skeptical of a [B]theory[/B] are obviously dumb, right? It's completely possible, but that doesn't mean it is a real fact.[/QUOTE] It's no longer a theory, that's the thing people don't seem to get. Major scientific organizations around the world have long since come to the consensus(fancy-speak for the action of a theory being proven correct) that Global Climate Change(fancy-speak for 'global warming') is a very real phenomenon and that we as a species are a direct cause of. So yeah, your bullshit sinks. [editline]lol[/editline] Also, on the topic of theories, let's look at the definitions, oh yes, there's more than one, of the term theory: [quote=The Goddamn Dictionary] A proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. [/quote] Seems to jibe with what you're saying eh? But wait! Let's look at another, equally valid definition, the one accredited Climate Resarchers use when talking about Climate Change: [quote=The Goddamn Dictionary] A coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity. [/quote] So, not only does your bullshit sink faster than the [I]Titanic[/I], it hits the seafloor [I]and keeps on going.[/I]

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;31653490]Evolution is a theory, its a theory I support but it is still theory.[/QUOTE] ... There's nothing I could say here that either hasn't already been posted here, or wouldn't get me banned for flaming.

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;31653490]Evolution is a theory, its a theory I support but it is still theory.[/QUOTE] gravity is just a theory therefore I don't believe in it

That video was hilarious.

Also, willer pretty much hit the nail on the head here. Even if we [I]didn't[/I] cause it, that doesn't mean we shouldn't do something. Make the world a better place and all that.

[QUOTE=Taishu;31653428]Because it [B]is[/B] man-made. Not natural. There isn't a grey area.[/QUOTE] It's very natural. Earth goes through climate changes all the time. Humanity's entire history has existed in a warm period between ice ages. It's just that anthropogenic causes are accelerating and effecting things to where nature can't keep up and adapt thus why we see annual coral beaching events getting more and more severe. However I heard reports of coral reefs in the Red Sea adapting and thriving in temperatures that would cause other reefs to die. Funny enough, that because of the strict laws making Saudi Arabia an undesirable tourist hot spot, the coral reefs in the Red Sea are probably the healthiest on the planet. I went to Hawaii this summer and snorkeled in a "Nature Reserve" and the reef consisted of algae covered rocks and a coral here and there. Tourism kills reefs. Humans and Reefs are a horrible combination.

[QUOTE=OvB;31653681]It's very natural. Earth goes through climate changes all the time. Humanity's entire history has existed in a warm period between ice ages. It's just that anthropogenic causes are accelerating and effecting things to where nature can't keep up and adapt thus why we see annual coral beaching events getting more and more severe. However I heard reports of coral reefs in the Red Sea adapting and thriving in temperatures that would cause other reefs to die. Funny enough, that because of the strict laws making Saudi Arabia an undesirable tourist hot spot, the coral reefs in the Red Sea are probably the healthiest on the planet. I went to Hawaii this summer and snorkeled in a "Nature Reserve" and the reef consisted of algae covered rocks and a coral here and there. Tourism kills reefs. Humans and Reefs are a horrible combination.[/QUOTE]Mars is going through the same change cycles.

Oh FoxNews, what mischief have you gotten into today... :v:

[QUOTE=Sanius;31653626]gravity is just a theory therefore I don't believe in it[/QUOTE] You've just totally just missed the point.

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;31653739]You've just totally just missed the point.[/QUOTE] could you expand on your point, then?

Wow, Jon Stewart is going to have a field day with this stuff. :v:

[QUOTE=faze;31653691]Mars is going through the same change cycles.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure what your point is? Mars is a dead planet.

[QUOTE=OvB;31653792]I'm not sure what your point is? Mars is a dead planet.[/QUOTE]It's a natural cycle. Not manmade.

[QUOTE=Sanius;31653767]could you expand on your point, then?[/QUOTE] He was stating that denying evolution was "fucking retarded" I was merely stating that evolution is still considered as an accepted theory. But after doing some research ive found out that its considered proven so I redact my previous statement.