• U.S. Visitors May Have to Hand Over Social Media Passwords: DHS
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They can fuck off, never going to the US then.
Yeah good bye tourism market. Although I'm pretty sure Trump has already buried that market.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;51795606][url=https://archive.fo/rPdaF]Then you're probably a sociopath[/url][/QUOTE] Fun Fact: I went onto Facebook after a lecture on the dangers of soial media, and then realized I was one of 3 people in my year who didn't have it. There will be a test on this later.
In Canada, section eight of our Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees protection from 'Unreasonable search and seizure.' Ergo, neither our employers nor the government have the right to have access to our private personal accounts - the government could get a warrant signed by a judge to do it, but they'd need good reason.
[QUOTE=reedbo;51795376]Some of them do actually. You'd be surprised what desperate people would do for a job.[/QUOTE] Yeah I would immediately tell them to fuck off
"yes sir my password, it is capital F lower case u, uppercase C K and upper case U." what are they gonna do check if its valid at time of entry too?
[QUOTE=Sableye;51795897]"yes sir my password, it is capital F lower case u, uppercase C K and upper case U." what are they gonna do check if its valid at time of entry too?[/QUOTE] "Sir, last chance. If you do not comply, you will not be granted entry into the United States and you will be returned on a flight back to your country of origin."
[QUOTE=Van-man;51795408][URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet#Software"]Time to go dark[/URL] [sp]I wouldn't be surprised that visiting that page lands you on a NSA watchlist[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]I wouldn't be surprised if the darknet surges in popularity and increased use in this new administration.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Trumple;51795438]You probably did the right thing. You probably wouldn't want to work for a company so intrusive. If they can't even respect your privacy, how can you expect them to respect anything else?[/QUOTE] Pretty much, I'm really big on a good fun work environment and it did not seem like one. Fuck work/life balance, you can work me to the bone 80 hours a week but I'm done if I can't have fun while doing it.
What about two-factor authentication or anything else stronger than a simple password? I hope Facebook and others do what they can to make this as hard to enforce as possible.
lmao enjoy getting lobbied the fuck out by social media companies this wont pass without getting stiffed/watered down to hell
This is most likely to be used to see if visitors are going to stay within the terms and conditions of their visa, e.g. someone talking about employment in the US through Facebook Messenger while entering on a tourist visa that explicitly prohibits working. This is already standard practice and if immigration authorities suspect you're hiding something, they will go through your phone and laptop. Also, the border guard can deny you entry for almost any reason. So if you wanna be snarky to the guy just trying to do his job, please don't be surprised when you are denied entry.
o'er the land of the "free" and the home of the "brave"
Isn't this a violation of the fifth amendment? Jesus, I hope the congress (if not the congress, hopefully Trump, and if not him, hopefully the SCOTUS) finds this unconstitutional.
[QUOTE=Keelwar;51795321]i mean i can see doing a public social media background check, jobs do it all the time, but actually getting into someone's account? that's a pretty clear breach of standard privacy that i believe we've all come to agree is standard and ethical.[/QUOTE] Law gets very broad at the border. You have little rights.
I'd rather never travel to the US than give them my twitter account used to follow Japanese crossdressers. Find your own damn sources
tbh not having social media accounts is the best thing ever
haha as if going into america isn't a fucking nightmare to begin with
[QUOTE=J!NX;51798329]tbh not having social media accounts is the best thing ever[/QUOTE] Pinterest is for lords and scholars though
couldn't you just say you don't own social media accounts?
What do they even consider to be "social media"? Just things like Facebook, or does Instagram count? Reddit? Forums like Facepunch?
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51797185]Isn't this a violation of the fifth amendment? Jesus, I hope the congress (if not the congress, hopefully Trump, and if not him, hopefully the SCOTUS) finds this unconstitutional.[/QUOTE] They're non-citizens / residents though.
The more and more news that comes out of the States the more and more I feel justified in my feeling I never want to step foot there.
Sure, I'll give you my randomly generated password but good luck with my two-factor authentication you fucking muppets!
[QUOTE=archangel125;51795879]In Canada, section eight of our Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees protection from 'Unreasonable search and seizure.' Ergo, neither our employers nor the government have the right to have access to our private personal accounts - the government could get a warrant signed by a judge to do it, but they'd need good reason.[/QUOTE] In Canada, Section 33 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms allows the government to pass a law that blatantly ignores the charter, but that needs to be voted on every 5 years, so the government could pass a law allowing this. However, what the DHS proposes violates the US constitution, I believe the 4th amendment, and there is no clause that allows the government to pass unconstitutional laws. Moreover Section 1 of the Canadian Charter undermines the entire thing by basically allowing a judge to say a law is in the best interest of the country and ignore any other constitutional violations. Our Charter undermines itself in 3 different places, and it also specifically does not guarantee property rights.
[QUOTE=Stopper;51798429]Sure, I'll give you my randomly generated password but good luck with my two-factor authentication you fucking muppets![/QUOTE] Sure, I'll let you have my password, let me just read out this 64 character password off my password manager.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51795879]In Canada, section eight of our Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees protection from 'Unreasonable search and seizure.' Ergo, neither our employers nor the government have the right to have access to our private personal accounts - the government could get a warrant signed by a judge to do it, but they'd need good reason.[/QUOTE] The US has that too though, but they have a somewhat weaker rule of law than we do.
I hate this fucking country, it's too big and each region wants something that fucks over the others. See: Donald Trump being elected by low population rural areas whilst high population urban areas didn't want him.
[QUOTE=Destroyox;51800320]I hate this fucking country, it's too big and each region wants something that fucks over the others. See: Donald Trump being elected by low population rural areas whilst high population urban areas didn't want him.[/QUOTE] It's not like a secession would solve that issue anyway, you're not gonna have states consisting solely of sense cities. The issue isn't the country's size as much as it is its extreme polarization.
[QUOTE=_Axel;51800503]It's not like a secession would solve that issue anyway, you're not gonna have states consisting solely of sense cities. The issue isn't the country's size as much as it is its extreme polarization.[/QUOTE] Well it's mainly due to the South's extreme voting power per person that's a relic from the slavery 3/5ths compromise era. Couple that in with the murder of Voting Rights for colored people and you get the white southerners choice in Senate and President outweighing the majority of people in their cities. Pretty much nothing will work, even secession because people are unwilling to compromise anymore even though that's what our country is built upon and what made us the great power we are. [editline]9th February 2017[/editline] That isn't to say that the Southern rural areas are inherently wrong, but it's just a minority of Americans are screwing over what millions of others want.
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