Lavabit founder has stopped using email: "If you knew what I know, you might not use it either" - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Jsm;41796469]It can be encrypted, and its (as far as I know) end to end, not even the server decrypts it. It just passes it along. Its made by Germans so given how paranoid they seem to be I assume it does actually work. ...[/QUOTE] If it goes through the server, then it can be eavesdropped (The clients need to agree on encryption settings to use, if that goes through the server then the server can read/change them, if they don't then there's no need to go through the server) To defeat spying of that nature though (Where the server itself is untrusted) you need end to end encryption, encryption between the client <> server node isn't enough.

[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;41805680]If it goes through the server, then it can be eavesdropped (The clients need to agree on encryption settings to use, if that goes through the server then the server can read/change them, if they don't then there's no need to go through the server) To defeat spying of that nature though (Where the server itself is untrusted) you need end to end encryption, encryption between the client <> server node isn't enough.[/QUOTE] To be fair if you were [I]that[/I] paranoid about spying you would take more measures than just jumping on a random TS server and enabling encryption. Its a good point though, a lot of things people think are encrypted are pretty weak. As shown with the revelations about SSL recently.

I'm soo glad I don't live in the US.

[QUOTE=Jsm;41806345]To be fair if you were [I]that[/I] paranoid about spying you would take more measures than just jumping on a random TS server and enabling encryption. Its a good point though, a lot of things people think are encrypted are pretty weak. As shown with the revelations about SSL recently.[/QUOTE] Yeah, we're talking about spy level paranoia here, honestly the NSA/CIA/FBI/ASIO/etc. don't care about people chatting while playing games, it's just a good idea to be aware exactly how this works so you don't have either a false sense of security, or a heightened sense of fear.

[QUOTE=catbarf;41801325]Definitely, but I really don't get where this 'so much for free speech' sentiment is coming from. The First Amendment still protects Americans, unless you're actively making threats or planning terrorism in your email you're not going to be arrested. If you can give me examples of people being convicted and sent to prison for being critical of the government in email I'll gladly eat my words.[/QUOTE] The real problem here is that the Lavabit owner isn't allowed to say why his service is being shut down.

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41797351]I get that message loud and clear. I'm trying to convey that him not sending emails [I]does not make him invulnerable.[/I][/QUOTE] if the government ever found my facepunch reg confirmation email we're all doomed seriously though who even uses email for sensitive data or even private discussions, it's 100% newsletters and registrations for me, sprinkled with the occasional chain letter from my mom. Everybody's paranoid with some delusion that they're important enough for the government to give them the time of day, I couldn't care less if I had some dude personally dedicated to reviewing all of my spam mail and quality checking my interests on tumblr I think email is pretty standard to know on the totem pole of privacy breeching, delete your facebook accounts if you're worried. At least don't browse other webpages with FB open- Their cookies mine data to target ad services, much like google does. God forbid they profit from actually giving people better ads instead of bombarding everyone with victoria's secret sales and class action lawsuit info regarding misothelioma having said all that though, this is an absolute shit situation for lavabit and all of its users to be going through, and it's entirely wrong of the government to do what they're doing. Sure the guy is super wanted, but I don't see what gets accomplished by taking a wrecking ball to any bridges linked to him

[QUOTE=latin_geek;41790823]How's that "free speech" thing coming along, US?[/QUOTE] What's incredibly frustrating about it is that this affects all of us, because most decent mail services are hosted in the US, and even if they aren't, the NSA apparently has the means to break in and get what they want if they have the suspicions to do so.

What about tormail? edit: oh yeah it went down, I'm pretty sure a replacement will pop up again though.

[QUOTE=Falchion;41811652]What about tormail?[/QUOTE] Unavailable after the owner of Freedom Hosting was arrested.

[QUOTE=Falchion;41811652]What about tormail?[/QUOTE] [url]http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/08/04/2054208/half-of-tor-sites-compromised-including-tormail[/url]

[QUOTE=PelPix123;41811723]I host my own email server, am I affected?[/QUOTE] They will either have to come down and tell you to show what is on your server or just tap into your traffic.

[QUOTE=Robber;41811012]The real problem here is that the Lavabit owner isn't allowed to say why his service is being shut down.[/QUOTE] Huh? Sure he did. His service isn't being shut down, he shut it down himself. The clearest explanation is that a court requested that he turn over info regarding Snowden, and rather than comply he shut down the entire service.

[QUOTE=daijitsu;41811317]At least don't browse other webpages with FB open[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter if you're logged in or not, they track you anyway. Use Ghostery to block that.

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;41790980]at least they're not tying us up drugging us and throwing us out of planes, argentina[/QUOTE] Except that was 30 years ago by a military dicatorship that did that shit just here, unlike a democratic government that spies not only its citizens but the rest of the world right now

[QUOTE=DaFreshLemon;41817506]Except that was 30 years ago by a military dicatorship that did that shit just here, unlike a democratic government that spies not only its citizens but the rest of the world right now[/QUOTE] democratic republic :eng101:

Who uses email these days

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;41817684]Who uses email these days[/QUOTE] extremely paranoid people for some reason

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;41791178]us backed an anticommunist rebel group and their initial grab to power, yeah. the major period where most died during the dirty war was after carter cut off aid to the country [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] JUST SAYIN[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor#U.S._involvement[/url] Maybe you're thinking about Chile ?