Smugglers use cannon to fire marijuana packets over US-Mexico border
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[QUOTE=Stormcharger;38814151]oh man imagine being like "dam im outta weed this sucks" and having one of those packets land at your feet :v:[/QUOTE]
"thanks weed god!"
They do the most ridiculous shit. It's fun to hear about all of this shit from the local news.
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[QUOTE=luck_or_loss;38816979]Here's my idea, lets flood the black market with weed that looks like mexican brick weed but it's so bad that nobody wants to smoke it ever again. Then there won't be any revenue for the cartels[/QUOTE]
Okay, guys
Guys, I have a great
Guys, I have an idea
Guys, listen.
Legalize it.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;38818785]I hear marijuana is allegedly completely safe? Is this true?
And please answer the last question if you could, please.[/QUOTE]
why does something have to be good to society for it to be legal? mcdonalds isn't good to society at all?
Also marijuana is a pretty safe drug with only a few minor side affects, however most drugs if taken responsibly are also pretty safe.
Ive taken heaps of drugs and done them safely and the only bad things ive had is a few bad trips but im glad I had those anyway.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38818590]Columbian drug runners actually made submarines to run coke across the border.[/QUOTE]
i remember a nat geo doc on that
it was pretty cool how they pulled that off
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;38818958]
also nobody really dies from weed
how many peeps die from alcohol[/QUOTE]
Tens of thousands die from alcohol related deaths every year in the United States.
Half a million people die every year in the United States as a result of tobacco.
Tobacco is the number one killer in the US by several hundred thousand victims.
Weed doesn't even register.
what happens if it lights on fire? :D
[QUOTE=GunFox;38823993]Tens of thousands die from alcohol related deaths every year in the United States.
Half a million people die every year in the United States as a result of tobacco.
Tobacco is the number one killer in the US by several hundred thousand victims.
Weed doesn't even register.[/QUOTE]
thats what i'm saying
[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;38819203]Have you been ignoring the medical marijuana movement? It does plenty good for society. It can easily work in one's plan to achieve wellness. The real question is are YOU good for society.[/QUOTE]
You still don't have to be an ass about replying.
Huh. I didn't think weed was profitable enough for cartels to give much of a shit about, since everyone and their grandmother homegrows some anyway. Oh well. Personally, I'd have built a coke balista. Or trebuchet. And I would have manned it with people in authentic medieval outfits. And when the police shows up, I'd have them yell "BY MY TROTH; THE SARACENS ARE AT OUR GATES! MEN! TO BATTLE!"
[QUOTE=Nitro836;38825376]You still don't have to be an ass about replying.[/QUOTE]
Well to be honest the only way you could still think weed has no tangible benefits is if you live under a rock and intermittently peek out from underneath simply to shout, "Fucking hippies and their drugs."
And frankly him questioning your good in society is valid considering you are questioning whether people can be trusted with their own bodies as well as you denying the benefits of drugs to people who need them, so yeah, you questioning whether people should have access to these materials which can help them will lead to people questioning your motives and having a passive aggressive stab at users (you know, the natural selection jab, which in it's right doesn't work because a lot of users will still pass on their DNA) only makes you look bad and bolsters our arguments.
aim the cannon at my place next time
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38826892] whether people should have access to these materials which can help them[/QUOTE]
IF they can help them. So far I know only Marijuana as an actually beneficial recreational drug.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;38826992]IF they can help them. So far I know only Marijuana as an actually beneficial recreational drug.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, it doesn't matter whether or not they actually have any upsides, Alcohol has miniscule benefits and causes much much more trouble than it's worth but it should still be legal, same goes for tobacco.
LSD can treat cluster headaches, these: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFKMB8LNeMc[/url]
MDMA is capable of treating PTSD in a lot of cases. [url]http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2004887,00.html[/url]
And there's an unfathomable amount of studies out there on Cannabis and the benefits of it.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38827096]Like I said, it doesn't matter whether or not they actually have any upsides, Alcohol has miniscule benefits and causes much much more trouble than it's worth but it should still be legal, same goes for tobacco.
LSD can treat cluster headaches, these: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFKMB8LNeMc[/url]
MDMA is capable of treating PTSD in a lot of cases. [url]http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2004887,00.html[/url]
And there's an unfathomable amount of studies out there on Cannabis and the benefits of it.[/QUOTE]
...and just like tobacco and booze, make you a passive life-and-money wasting individual who's never satisfied without his dose.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;38827120]...and just like tobacco and booze, make you a passive life-and-money wasting individual who's never satisfied without his dose.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you actually are just retarded.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_dependence#Addictive_potential[/url]
Ecstasy, LSD and Cannabis are the least addictive drugs there are, even less so than alcohol and tobacco.
So yeah, that's you wrong yet again, if you want to keep trying then carry on, I'll just prove you wrong yet again, never mind the fact that there are actually drugs which will outright counter addiction: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_dependence#Anti-addictive_drugs[/url]
Look, all I'm saying is that if you increase the amount of narcotics accessible to people, that'll just worsen things more.
Plus if one can't take life sober, then they should just go somewhere where they can.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;38827169]Look, all I'm saying is that if you increase the amount of narcotics accessible to people, that'll just worsen things more.
Plus if one can't take life sober, then they should just go somewhere where they can.[/QUOTE]
Do you actually trust people so little? DO you actually have any idea how easy is to get a hold of illegal drugs? It would likely become [i]more[/i] difficult to get hold of hard drugs such as meth and heroin if they became legal and regulated because you would undoubtedly need a license or training to get access to them just like it is now in hospitals.
And fuck off dude, you've never smoked or drank, never hit a bong? Never had a moment where you wanted a novel little change in your perspective?
You're idiotically and ignorantly assuming that everyone turns to drugs because they're depressed or can't take the world, has it ever for even the slightest second occurred to you that maybe it's just fun getting high with your friends, pissing yourself laughing watching cartoons and playing super intense games?
Altering ones perception can give you a new found appreciation for people and whatever issues you may be having in life, it's not about hating life, it's about appreciating the things around you and gaining a new view.
If you don't want to do drugs that's fine, if you're more inclined to stay sober that's cool, more power to you man, but some of us like slamming a bong and challenging our friends to see how high they can get as they play Super Meat Boy and scran their pizza so fuck you very much for judging us.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38827213]
You're idiotically and ignorantly assuming that everyone turns to drugs because they're depressed or can't take the world, has it ever for even the slightest second occurred to you that maybe it's just fun getting high with your friends, pissing yourself laughing watching cartoons and playing super intense games?
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You're also NAIVELY assuming the only reason people hit the powder is because its fun.
News flash, they don't. Just like booze and tobacco, they aren't that different in uses.
Also, a new view to things via drugs? Hope you enjoy the poor judgements you may have done in your high.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;38827244]You're also NAIVELY assuming the only reason people hit the powder is because its fun.
News flash, they don't. Just like booze and tobacco, they aren't that different in uses.
Also, a new view to things via drugs? Hope you enjoy the poor judgements you may have done in your high.[/QUOTE]
You're assuming I'm some kind of retard who thinks high epiphanies are actual moments of clarity. Look, it's brutally obvious you just think your superior to any user at all, so this argument is a total waste of time, you're fully entrenched in your idiotic ideals to the point where you're actually ignoring the science which is capable of helping people simply because you think everyone will suddenly become a heroin junkie if it becomes illegal, newsflash, it's easy to get a hold of now and society hasn't collapsed under the weight of opiate addiction.
The people who abuse drugs for those reasons now will abuse just about any drug, but they're statistically more likely to abuse prescription drugs:
[url]http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/abuse-of-prescription-drugs[/url]
[quote=WebMD]Is it possible that you or someone you love is addicted to prescription drugs? Most of us take prescription drugs only for the reason the doctor intended. Nevertheless, an estimated 48 million people (aged 12 and older), according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse, have used prescription drugs for nonmedical reasons in their lifetime. That figure represents approximately 20% of the U.S. population.[/quote]
Well I guess we need to ban prescription meds don't we?
[url]http://alcoholism.about.com/od/drugs/a/nsduh_drugs.htm[/url]
[quote]An estimated 20.4 million people in the United States used some kind of illicit drug in the past 30 days, according to the latest government statistics. About 8.3 percent of all persons age 12 and over are involved in use of illegal drugs or the nonmedical use of prescription drugs.[/quote]
Oh and just so you know, the only idea I've had while high that I intend to follow through on is becoming a paramedic.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38827304]You're assuming I'm some kind of retard who thinks high epiphanies are actual moments of clarity.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying YOU are a retard, I'm saying it' statistically likely OTHERS in this world are and will make poor judgements UNDER THE INFLUENCE
and literally and maybe metaphorically get bent
and then drugs suffer from even worse reputation as people misuse them
cause there's some friggin idiots out there that natural selection takes care of
and people like you still defend said idiots among others with your blanket defense in behalf of drugs.
I don't trust cokeheads to grow up as mentally stable and moderately useful members for society is all.
Sure, medical benefits and whatever, but if that's the case, why aren't they given to people who NEED them instead of people who smoke their money away in droves at home? Why not prescribe them legally instead of selling them to the nearest preteens and young adults?
[QUOTE=Nitro836;38827419]I'm not saying YOU are a retard, I'm saying it' statistically likely OTHERS in this world are and will make poor judgements UNDER THE INFLUENCE
and literally and maybe metaphorically get bent
and then drugs suffer from even worse reputation as people misuse them
cause there's some friggin idiots out there that natural selection takes care of
and people like you still defend said idiots among others with your blanket defense in behalf of drugs.
I don't trust cokeheads to grow up as mentally stable and moderately useful members for society is all.
Sure, medical benefits and whatever, but if that's the case, why aren't they given to people who NEED them instead of people who smoke their money away in droves at home? Why not prescribe them legally instead of selling them to the nearest preteens and young adults?[/QUOTE]
The drugs aren't being prescribed because we've found better alternatives to cocaine for most of the medical procedures it was used for, MDMA because it has had a massive stigma attached to it, at least in Europe. Cannabis and the vast majority of other drugs because of the blanket war on drugs which has been a catastrophic failure.
Do you know what's funny, I've met more people addicted to codeine than I've met other addicts.
And you've failed to address my point that prescription drugs are actually worse in terms of addiction than illegal drugs.
And you keep saying natural selection, but I'm sure you have no idea what that means at least in the context of humanity.
Oh and statistically most of the people who do hard drugs are actually about even with prescription drugs, so lets assume that we can loosely translate poor judgement as A&E visits while under the influence of drugs.
[url]http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/drug-related-hospital-emergency-room-visits[/url]
[quote]In 2009, there were nearly 4.6 million drug-related ED visits nationwide. These visits included reports of drug abuse, adverse reactions to drugs, or other drug-related consequences. Almost 50 percent were attributed to adverse reactions to pharmaceuticals taken as prescribed, and 45 percent involved drug abuse. DAWN estimates that of the 2.1 million drug abuse visits—
27.1 percent involved nonmedical use of pharmaceuticals (i.e., prescription or OTC medications, dietary supplements)
21.2 percent involved illicit drugs
14.3 percent involved alcohol, in combination with other drugs.[/quote]
As you can see, yet again prescription drugs are worse than illicit drugs but I'll give you that this may be a little biased so here we go with the illicit drugs.
[quote]cocaine was involved in 422,896 ED visits
marijuana was involved in 376,467 ED visits
heroin was involved in 213,118 ED visits
stimulants, including amphetamines and methamphetamine, were involved in 93,562 ED visits
other illicit drugs—such as PCP, ecstasy, and GHB—were involved much less frequently than any of the drug types mentioned above.[/quote]
If you don't trust cokeheads well that's your baggage to carry, I don't find someone less trust worthy because of their poison.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38827520]
If you don't trust cokeheads well that's your baggage to carry, I don't find someone less trust worthy because of their poison.[/QUOTE]
Cool to know you trust a high guy as much as an average one.
And if the illegal drugs are less addictive and less bad-consequential than market ones, what's with the backwardness?
How did medicinal drugs become worse causes for badness of drug rep than street ones? This one honestly fascinates me.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;38827564]Cool to know you trust a high guy as much as an average one.
And if the illegal drugs are less addictive and less bad-consequential than market ones, what's with the backwardness?
How did medicinal drugs become worse causes for badness of drug rep than street ones? This one honestly fascinates me.[/QUOTE]
Illicit drugs remain illegal largely to moral panics, like weed in the 50's and with the association to hippies. It's mostly just knee jerk reactions to moral outcries and the like.
Look don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that every drug is a paragon of chemistry capable of only good things, I know that heroin, coke and other the drugs like them are dangerous, but with proper education for all drugs including prescription drugs then you can control it like Portugal. With proper education, legalisation and regulation everything will be fine, you'll be able to control the purity of the drugs and their cutting agents and you will see drastic drops in deaths due to overdose and dodgey cutting agents.
Besides, if you intend to go and get heroin or some shit when it's legal then you would have done it regardless of illegality, you don't just wake up and think "Today I will fill my veins with opiates," at random.
And I never said I trust high people more than sober folk, I said I don't trust users more or less based on their drug of choice, I base my trust on whether or not their trustworthy, shit man not everything is about drugs.
It'll nevertheless take while before drugs are seen as completely acceptable form of recreation. Also always confirm any proposals again once sober lest you'll be bungee jumping without a rope.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;38827694]It'll nevertheless take while before drugs are seen as completely acceptable form of recreation.[/QUOTE]
Not really, all it'll take is one more generation at current rates and the vast majority of people won't really be too fussed as far as my personal experience goes. Like I said I'm far more concerned about addiction to prescription and over the counter medicines.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;38827707]OPTIMISMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM[/QUOTE]
Realism dude, most folk my age at least in my experience don't really care, it's mostly folks in their 40' and up that care, as harsh as it is but when their generation takes a back seat and younger generations start to rise to positions of power then the ball will be rolling on legalisation and regulation.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38827734]Realism dude, most folk my age at least in my experience don't really care, it's mostly folks in their 40' and up that care, as harsh as it is but when their generation takes a back seat and younger generations start to rise to positions of power then the ball will be rolling on legalisation and regulation.[/QUOTE]
Knowing America though...
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