53 House Republicans call on Obama to fire Kevin Jennings - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;18769562]This isn't an issue of him being a homosexual. The problem is that he's clearly failing to meet the criteria of his job, instead opting to use his position to push a personal agenda into a classroom- and I couldn't imagine a more inappropriate medium for his quest. I have no issues with homosexuality and fully support his cause, but the classroom is not an appropriate place to subject people to his opinions.[/QUOTE] His "opinions" are of tolerance of a minority that has been beaten around your argument sucks

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;18769562]This isn't an issue of him being a homosexual. The problem is that he's clearly failing to meet the criteria of his job, instead opting to use his position to push a personal agenda into a classroom- and I couldn't imagine a more inappropriate medium for his quest. I have no issues with homosexuality and fully support his cause, but the classroom is not an appropriate place to subject people to his opinions.[/QUOTE] Sorry, but I'd have to disagree. No, children should not be subjected to biased opinions branded as fact, however, yes, they [I]should[/I] have access to any and all information, from both sides of the issue, as well as from an nonpartisan standpoint. School is not only where you learn 2+ 2= 4, it's also where people come to understand their world better, objectively. My beef is that you have all these conservative asshole parents using their parental "rights" to censor any information that they don't agree with, while guilting and conditioning their kids into be just like them. They tell their kids that they'll go to hell if they literally even THINK about the opposing side's viewpoint. Where else is the kid going to learn about reality than at school? I think that plurality and objectivity should be mandatory curriculum in schools.

I don't think schools should promote homosexuality or even heterosexuality.

[QUOTE=TH89;18759805]Yeah we need to go back to the good old days when the republican party loved homosexuals[/QUOTE] When it was founded they were considered weirdy leftists. [editline]09:03PM[/editline] [QUOTE=innerfire34;18760032]No, their parents teach them to act like shit out of ignorance education removes ignorance[/QUOTE] What if you educate with ignorance.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;18770489]I don't think schools should promote homosexuality or even heterosexuality.[/QUOTE] ideally, sexuality should just be... there but that's ideally.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;18759768]He's an idiot and should be fired. Unfortunately, anyone who fires him will be called a homophobe.[/QUOTE] I don't think any government official can change how teachers run there class, uh sexually.

The whole idea of introducing gay themes into schools is simply retarded. It's like telling the kids to accept gays by acting like them. I think it'd be best if they just kept with the whole, "respect everyone equally" crap.

[QUOTE=Archy;18775067]The whole idea of introducing gay themes into schools is simply retarded. It's like telling the kids to accept gays by acting like them. I think it'd be best if they just kept with the whole, "respect everyone equally" crap.[/QUOTE] so heterosexual themes is p. awesome?

[QUOTE=Trotsky;18776128]so heterosexual themes is p. awesome?[/QUOTE] No, but neither is homosexual. Leaning kids towards one end or another is just completely pointless.

*Must* *Resist* *Urge* *To* *Disagree With* *Republics...* Gah! I can't do it! This guys an idiot! This is not the way to win gay rights. In fact he's doing the complete opposite. I mean really, he told him to [I]use a condom?[/I] Rather than alert the authorities?

Meh he should be fired

Yeah, like the Republicans did a better job. Where did DARE get us? Oh yeah, it [b]increased[/b] drug use. [editline]07:01PM[/editline] Upon further research, however, I have cocluded this guy is fucking retarded. He hasn't done jack-shit other than promote homosexuality, which should not be the primary issue of schools.

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;18776911]Yeah, like the Republicans did a better job. Where did DARE get us? Oh yeah, it [b]increased[/b] drug use. [/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but that's like saying the Democratic party made PETA.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;18776221]*Must* *Resist* *Urge* *To* *Disagree With* *Republics...* Gah! I can't do it! This guys an idiot! This is not the way to win gay rights. In fact he's doing the complete opposite. I mean really, he told him to [I]use a condom?[/I] Rather than alert the authorities?[/QUOTE] I find it rough, but necessary advice. [QUOTE=Archy;18776169]No, but neither is homosexual. Leaning kids towards one end or another is just completely pointless.[/QUOTE] You're not going to get rid of heterosexual themes, so it's best to add a balance. [editline]04:47AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18777244]I'm sorry, but that's like saying the Democratic party made PETA.[/QUOTE] Actually DARE was developed by the LA police department. Which is a government agency. PETA was developed by Ingrid Newkirk and some other dickweed. and you're implying PETA is a leftist agency. It's not, it's anti-humanist and crazy.

[quote]Jennings has come under heavy criticism from many conservatives for, among other things, his work to introduce gay themes into the nation's classrooms, including elementary schools; the foreword he wrote for a book entitled Queering Elementary Education; his lack of experience in school safety and drug issues; some of the work of the organization he founded, the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network; and his handling of an incident in 1988 in which, as a high school teacher, Jennings was approached by a sophomore boy who confided that he had become involved with an older man, and Jennings, rather than notify school authorities, simply advised the boy to use a condom.[/quote] Gay or not, handling a situation like this with any child is grossly irresponsible.

[quote=Republican Representative Steve King]A week ago, Barney Frank was declaring me to be a bigot[/quote] That's because you are.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;18760104]they are most likely over dramatizing it actually, they are[/QUOTE] He's been busted overstepping lines many, many times. The man's an idiot, gay or not. He shouldn't be fired for being gay, he should be fired for being stupid.

Dear Sirs, I thank you for your extremely articulate letter. It was a source of great amusement to myself and my Cabinet. Your concern is noted. I happen to know of an organization overseas with views very similar to yours, with whom you may find much in common. I'll be certain to introduce you to the leaders as soon as our soldiers in the Middle East succeed in capturing them. Sincerely, B. Obama President

You can't deny that telling a young boy to use a condom while doing it with an adult is a wonderful plan that can't go wrong as opposed to alerting the police, which is what he's supposed to do.

[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;18777813]Gay or not, handling a situation like this with any child is grossly irresponsible.[/QUOTE] not really... [editline]05:51AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Strider_07;18778019]He's been busted overstepping lines many, many times. The man's an idiot, gay or not. He shouldn't be fired for being gay, he should be fired for being stupid.[/QUOTE] again, how?

[QUOTE=Trotsky;18778348]not really... [editline]05:51AM[/editline] again, how?[/QUOTE] Well, encouraging statutory rape for one by not reporting sex with a minor to the police (which in any other case would mean a loss of his rights to be around children). Trying to hyper-sexualize schoolchildren more than they are already is also not his job. It isn't right just because he's gay. I wouldn't support a straight person trying to force sexuality on small children either. Countdown to Trotsky saying I live in Kentucky and hate black people for disagreeing with him: 5...4...3...2...

[QUOTE=Strider_07;18778953]Well, encouraging statutory rape for one by not reporting sex with a minor to the police (which in any other case would mean a loss of his rights to be around children).[/quote] you're taking it out of context. [quote]Trying to hyper-sexualize schoolchildren more than they are already is also not his job. It isn't right just because he's gay. I wouldn't support a straight person trying to force sexuality on small children either.[/QUOTE] Kids aren't hyper-sexualized already?

[QUOTE=TH89;18760244]Not really. The South at the time of the Civil War was largely Democrat, but the parties at the time didn't embody the same political positions they do now. The Democrats opposed Federal intervention on issues like slavery, while the Republicans opposed slavery on the grounds that it denied whites jobs.[/QUOTE] What a liberal face to a black and white conflict. Sorry to burst your boner but the CSA was entirely made up of southern democrats who DID infact support slavery as a means to provide an economy. I bet you didn't even know that republicans used to go around in post war southern states fighting confederate insurgents and the KKK. Postwar america is very comparable to post war Iraq.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;18779034]you're taking it out of context.[/QUOTE] There's not much to take out of context. He failed at a major legal responsibility. Here's another fun fact: He openly admitted that he was inspired by Harry Hay, the man who spent a large portion of his life triumphing NAMBLA. The long and the short of it is that I can't see how we should keep him in a position of power when it's come to surface that he's fucked up royally. Get someone else, I don't care who it is, so long as they haven't fucked up like this.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;18760028]You REALLY don't know what you're talking about. So you're telling me discrimination and terms like "that's gay" or "faggot" do not exist? Or that it's somewhere near zero? you are an ignorant and deluded fuck, you know that?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Trotsky;18768935] There is already strong heterosexual themes in school.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Trotsky;18769668]His "opinions" are of tolerance of a minority that has been beaten around your argument sucks[/QUOTE] Oh would you be quiet? Why are you so persistent in defending a guy who has obviously overstep his boundaries? Ok, we get it, you're for Gay rights. But shoving shit down peoples' throats, no pun intended, especially childrens' is taking it too far. Schools are supposed to stay heterosexual because it's human nature to be heterosexual and to expect other people to be heterosexual not to be some confused society where you should openly welcome thoughts about touching your best friends butt! Being tolerant doesn't mean forcing people to do and see things that make them feel uncomfortable. You need to understand what taking it too far means. Plus half your comments are just pure denial.

What I'd like to see in schools is a form of sexual education that teaches that it's okay to be the way you are. If you're attracted to the same sex, there shouldn't be anything wrong with it. ENCOURAGING sexuality in children, however, isn't right. It's something that requires a certain level of emotional maturity. Incidentally, I also think that parents who teach their children that homosexuality is WRONG are scum.

[QUOTE=archangel125;18779258]What I'd like to see in schools is a form of sexual education that teaches that it's okay to be the way you are. If you're attracted to the same sex, there shouldn't be anything wrong with it. ENCOURAGING sexuality in children, however, isn't right. It's something that requires a certain level of emotional maturity. Incidentally, I also think that parents who teach their children that homosexuality is WRONG are scum.[/QUOTE] This. We don't need to force it down the throats of children. Sex Education should be kept to people who have reached sexual maturity, when the information is pertinent and will have the most effect. Once they've hit that age, teach them that it's not wrong to be gay. But trying to schram it down everyone's throat to make sure that people aren't discriminated against at an age far too early to be worried about sexuality (I can't think of a single third grader that knows what gay means) isn't the answer. Modify what we have, don't try the shotgun approach from day one.

[QUOTE=Howe;18779231]Oh would you be quiet? Why are you so persistent in defending a guy who has obviously overstep his boundaries? Ok, we get it, you're for Gay rights. But shoving shit down peoples' throats, no pun intended, especially childrens' is taking it too far. Schools are supposed to stay heterosexual because it's human nature to be heterosexual and to expect other people to be heterosexual not to be some confused society where you should openly welcome thoughts about touching your best friends butt! Being tolerant doesn't mean forcing people to do and see things that make them feel uncomfortable. You need to understand what taking it too far means. Plus half your comments are just pure denial.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/griphardchest/rowsdower1.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Trotsky;18779421][img]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/griphardchest/rowsdower1.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] The man is failing to meet the requirements of his job. He is abusing his position and ignoring his responsibilities as an educational director to campaign for a cause- one which he's actually compromising due to the selfish zeal with which he's pursuing it. He's far too emotionally invested in his quest. I even doubt the sincerity behind it, as the fervour with which he pursues his agenda (and the attention he willfully draws to himself while doing it) would seem to indicate that he simply wants to be famous as a hero for his cause. Yes, this man needs to be stripped of his position. He has repeatedly displayed a complete lack of self-control and a total disregard for his vocational and legal responsibilities as a public servant. Firing may give him ground to proclaim himself a martyr for gay rights, but that's perfectly fine. He's free to make his campaign, so long as he's not doing it in an official capacity within schools. This has nothing to do with people being uncomfortable with the fact that he's gay. You're a damn fool if you think that's the issue here.

Don't fuck with Rowsdower you bastard he WILL fuck your shit up i have seen him bite a man's face off with his hockey hair [editline]03:11PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Big Dumb American;18779840] This has nothing to do with people being uncomfortable with the fact that he's gay. You're a damn fool if you think that's the issue here.[/QUOTE] and you're a damn fool to think the Republican's have no bias here. [editline]03:12PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Big Dumb American;18779840]one which he's actually compromising due to the selfish zeal with which he's pursuing it.[/QUOTE] I wasn't aware pushing for tolerance of a beaten minority is selfish zeal [editline]03:12PM[/editline] you're a really bad poster, you know that? [editline]03:14PM[/editline] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/ninesixtwo/Mike-dower.jpg[/img]