• Whites to become minority in Metro Vancouver by 2031
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[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40123811]I detect the subtle hint of hypocrisy.[/QUOTE] i'm just making vague statements that doesn't really mean anything he's posting graphs and quotes.
[QUOTE=Episode;40114996][img]http://s14.postimg.org/4auaioqrl/1363843753020.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] white people aren't largely oppressed and pride is fairly enough a trivial concept in itself because it puts down others
[QUOTE=Ownederd;40124623]white people aren't largely oppressed and pride is fairly enough a trivial concept in itself because it puts down others[/QUOTE] It's impossible to discern sincere white pride from "white pride" as a [i]fuck you[/i] to the other prides, and that's one of the bigger problems with it. There are lots of subgroups of "white" that have overcome adversity and people should absolutely be proud of that but calling it "white pride" (perhaps unfairly) lumps you in with nazis. Besides, white people as a whole in North America weren't/aren't oppressed like women, gay, and black people were/are. That's generally why "black pride" in NA is more understandable. Would something like "Irish Pride" be problematic? In and of itself, no. It'd get subverted by neo nazis really damn quick though
[QUOTE=Ownederd;40124623]pride is fairly enough a trivial concept in itself because it puts down others[/QUOTE] No, that's not necessarily part of pride, even race-derived pride. You can feel proud of yourself without either thinking everyone else is inferior or putting anyone else down.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;40124623]white people aren't largely oppressed and pride is fairly enough a trivial concept in itself because it puts down others[/QUOTE] Not always. Pride in the "Seven Deadly Sins" sense is an inflated sense of one's personal status or accomplishments. This is likely to what you're referring to. There is also the "satisfied sense of attachment toward one's own or another's choices and actions, or toward a whole group of people, and is a product of praise, independent self-reflection, or a fulfilled feeling of belonging," which you are totally forgetting. (From Wikipedia) Pride in the modern sense is moving more towards the positive definition of the word and away from the outdated idea of superiority.
What happened Dain? You're just feeding the stereotype of transhumanists being racists.
[QUOTE=Megafan;40115075]That and their particular 'group' (though it may be wrong to categorize it that way) has pride in a struggle to overcome adversity. What comparable experience can Whites as a group (myself included) claim to have had? What hardships have Whites had to struggle against on the basis of being White?[/QUOTE] Whites in Africa don't get a good end of the stick, esp. Zimbabwe
The issue of 'white pride' seems utterly contrived to lump a staggering amount of recently and quite possible still hostile ethnic groups (which happen to have white skin) together as if other races were someone an existentialist threat to the survival of these groups. When you see someone say something along the lines of 'why do those blacks get to show pride and we don't' it should immediately become clear that a) they don't understand that (using the US for example) the slavery experienced by people brought from Africa crafted a greater black American culture to which they apply pride to rather than their original ethnic area in Africa, which became irrelevant or in the background, and b) White people by in large do not have this same melting together of cultures and have remained culturally distinct from one another within Europe and formerly colonial countries. You see regional pride movements directed at singularly their respective culture since they have not experienced this forced integration based upon skin colour, and this is perfectly acceptable since they don't presume that white people are unified nor do they do it in a hostile way towards other races. essentially white pride is a huge dog-whistle and anyone using it is fucking awful.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;40125163]Whites in Africa don't get a good end of the stick, esp. Zimbabwe[/QUOTE] When White people left Zimbabwe everybody became a millionaire . So yeah, It's better without Whites. :v:
[QUOTE=Atlascore;40127153]White people should be a minority everywhere.[/QUOTE] Wrong. There should be NO minorities.
this thread shows just how successful the Right's constant whining about immigration for the past 50+ years has had a [I]huge[/I] impact on many people from the political spectrum, even if they think they aren't right leaning at all. I mean allot of these Right wing propaganda spewers are some of the most popular entertainers in their respective countries (such as in the US, Rush Limbaugh is the most listened to radio talk show by fair)
[QUOTE=dass;40123528]Because you could grab all I said, along with that first quote, and make it look instantly like I'm the second coming of Hitler...[/QUOTE] ok but maybe if you didn't, you know act like Hitler maybe i wouldn't feel the need to draw those kinds of comparisons [QUOTE=dass;40123528]The best part, is that if I had not made that post that got me banned, all the rest probably wouldn't catch someone's attention at all, and the next best thing about it, is that the post I was banned for was genuinely bad reading by me, followed by the wrong reply. Did anyone even bother asking for an explanation on the RC thread? Nope. Let's just act like armchair white knights for equality and point fingers, because we know better than anyone else, and even if we are wrong or if someone made a mistake, who gives a fuck![/QUOTE] actually yeah it would attract attention lol, you said something massively racist in every post of yours i quoted. and i've got yet to see this RC post of yours, apparently wasn't able to convince any of the mods so i guess i'm not missing much. [QUOTE=dass;40123528]But lets make it simple. You want to call me Hitler Youth? You want to call me Gaddafi? You want to call me Mussolini? Satan? Fine. Do it. Call me whatever you want. In the end, I don't care because I'm not associated with any of that shit, and if you or anyone else wants to act like I believe in "ethnicity genocide" and that I said that and meant it, and it totally wasn't a bad reading mistake, go ahead. You got everything you want to disregard me as any other person who makes reading mistakes. A shitty reply by me to something I didn't read right, and a not-so-great history with another ethnicity due to what happens around here. So yeah, do as you will. Call me Hitler and disregard everything else like the other bunch around here.[/QUOTE] but how would you even misread ALL of those things you posted about, and still come to the conclusion that gypsies steal all your shit, are the scum of the Earth, and are naturally predisposed towards thievery, which they are also exceptionally skilled at? assuming you did actually make some kind of mistake with the first post, i think it could only have helped hold a candle to your insane racism, perhaps not to the point of genocide - again, assuming you did legit misread the first post - but definitely to the point of being the kind of propaganda people use to justify it. so again, i implore you: stop trying to tell me that you didn't know what you were saying, because either you misread [I]every single post in two threads[/I] but still felt the need to individually reply to each one, or you're lying out through your fucking teeth. okay? just admit that your excuse is flimsier than something made of angel hair and baby powder. [QUOTE=dass;40123528]Oh, and thanks for the compliment on my English. A flaw here and there but it's mostly good I guess.[/QUOTE] np
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;40120621]Pretty sure every single culture out there has their own genocides and war crimes. "I'm proud of being human" must mean that I'm proud of all the fucking wars and shit we've had because that's litterally the common thing among humans. So every german proud of being german is proud of what their ancestors did to jews? So you can pick and choose what you like and what you're proud of or not? Pretty sure white people were doing more than just GENOCIDE before 1900s.[/QUOTE] ok, tell me what white people were doing as a group back in the old days? anything? oh yea, white people isn't a fucking nationality or unified group. white people fought each other more than they cooperated. the only unifying aspect among whites was their enslavement and genocide of other peoples around the world. unless you can name more white achievements, we are p. much done.
I'm not a racist but I wish all of these other races would go away :'( [editline]2nd April 2013[/editline] I always love when commonwealth people talk about immigration because it's like the one thing America is more progressive on, somehow
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;40128041]I'm not a racist but I wish all of these other races would go away :'( [editline]2nd April 2013[/editline] I always love when commonwealth people talk about immigration because it's like the one thing America is more progressive on, somehow[/QUOTE] nah, no matter where you go, from sweden to america to canada, half the people seem to have shit to say about immigrants. [editline]2nd April 2013[/editline] immigration is one of the issues even relatively liberal people seem to be incredibly backwards on
I literally could not give a shit about my heritage if I tried. [editline]2nd April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=archangel125;40119554]If those stats aren't bullshit, they still don't mean a thing. Look up 'internalized oppression', and also the documentary called "Blue eyes, brown eyes". A group which is systemically oppressed (And oppression doesn't mean they're slaves or segregated, just that they have, in general a lower social class and fewer opportunities to prosper) will actually result in lower intelligence scores among the oppressed demographic - They lose a lot of confidence in themselves. In the study, they found that people who became free of that oppression had much higher scores of intelligence tests - And just a day later. [editline]1st April 2013[/editline] [B]Also IQ is bullshit.[/B][/QUOTE] Not to mention shit like the study that found women scored lower on math and science when they had to fill out an information box that included their gender before taking it
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;40125025]What happened Dain? You're just feeding the stereotype of transhumanists being racists.[/QUOTE] But transhumanists have to recognize the reality of innate differences between humans if we want to improve the human condition. The 1 s.d. difference in IQ between races is minute compared to the difference between what we are and what we could be.
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[QUOTE=The golden;40127467]Yes. We should cull off people until the percentages of ethnicities are perfectly equal. This is a superb idea. :v:[/QUOTE] Brilliant, Golden. Really. I mean there should be no distinction between people of different skin colours, and 'race' should become an entirely archaic concept. I have to wonder why you thought immediately of what's practically genocide. [editline]2nd April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Professer Trall;40128620][IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/c0tap.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Cheap, melodramatic excuse for laziness.
If it's an excuse then it's for being the victim. "Why me?" "Well it's because you were born privileged and racist of course!"
[QUOTE=Professer Trall;40128767]If it's an excuse then it's for being the victim. "Why me?" "Well it's because you were born privileged and racist of course!"[/QUOTE] Being white isn't being disadvantaged.
i agree professer trall white males never get a break
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40128771]Being white isn't being disadvantaged.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action[/url] And that's just one part.
[QUOTE=Professer Trall;40128780][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action[/url] And that's just one part.[/QUOTE] it's been discussed to fucking death already you really think that's the same form of oppression that anyone else had to go through in western culture? you can still get a job easily. affirmative action does nothing to stop that.
Oh no whites aren't free to oppress minorities and have inherent advantages in society due to their skin colour! The horror!! White genocide!!! [insert mindless racist chants here]
[QUOTE=Atlascore;40127153]White people should be a minority everywhere.[/QUOTE] Well, people tend to have children, and I am not sure how can you control the population of whites, save eugenic-esque policies.
[QUOTE=N0 WAR;40128826]Oh no whites aren't free to oppress minorities and have inherent advantages in society due to their skin colour! The horror!! White genocide!!! [insert mindless racist chants here][/QUOTE] Here comes the cries of racism. What makes you think I'm racist? Because I believe that whites are currently experiencing a spiral downhill that will only get worse? This is just another one of those liberal defense mechanisms, cry and cry. "Oh he's racist don't listen to him!" "Oh hes sexist he must be wrong!" I'm leaving, I just wanted to post the first picture. I don't know why I even replied the first time.
[QUOTE=Professer Trall;40128848]Here comes the cries of racism. What makes you think I'm racist? Because I believe that whites are currently experiencing a spiral downhill that will only get worse? This is just another one of those liberal defense mechanisms, cry and cry. "Oh he's racist don't listen to him!" "Oh hes sexist he must be wrong!" I'm leaving, I just wanted to post the first picture. I don't know why I even replied the first time.[/QUOTE] no, it's that we're not spiraling endlessly down. in your lifetime, you won't be disadvanteged by being white. by leaving and refusing to listen to anyone else, aren't you being what you accuse us of being? Just totally incapable of discussion?
[QUOTE=Professer Trall;40128780][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action[/url] And that's just one part.[/QUOTE] you should leave because you have no idea what you're talking about and will add nothing of interest or meaning to the discussion. go educate yourself a bit and then come back.
Professor Trall you remind me much of the Anglo-Saxon foundation. [quote]This is just another one of those liberal defense mechanisms, cry and cry.[/quote] This doesn't do much help. [editline]2nd April 2013[/editline] Like shit man, I think that there are differences between people, but we should let them do what they like (like move around, participate in the economy, teach and learn, etc) instead of self-defeating immigration restriction. There is not a single instance of a country having ever benefited from closed borders.
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