[QUOTE=hexpunK;34517345]Tough luck. What if I wanted to play Half Life 2 without having to use Steam?[/QUOTE]
Steam is an improvement. Origin is some shitware.
I don't see how steam having a monopoly is bad for the digital marketplace. They have a monopoly because people actually like not having to pay 50 dollars for a game that came out 2 years ago and are willing to buy things for 50-75 % off at seasonal sales.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;34517345]Tough luck. What if I wanted to play Half Life 2 without having to use Steam?[/QUOTE]
But that's where you're mis-understanding what i'm saying. I like Steam, I don't like Origin.
Steam is easy to use, Origin is a pain in the arse.
[QUOTE=LuckyLuke;34517558]But that's where you're mis-understanding what i'm saying. I like Steam, I don't like Origin.
Steam is easy to use, Origin is a pain in the arse.[/QUOTE]
I feel bad for the people who accidentally buy boxed copies on there.
[QUOTE=LuckyLuke;34517558]But that's where you're mis-understanding what i'm saying. I like Steam, I don't like Origin.
Steam is easy to use, Origin is a pain in the arse.[/QUOTE]
Plus Steam was appealing because it was having all your games in one place. Basically it's like how Xbox has XBL, PS3 has PSN, etc. This was appealing to people. It always has been.
Origin is a threat to this vision of all your games in one place.
[QUOTE=Nikota;34517597]I feel bad for the people who accidentally buy boxed copies on there.[/QUOTE]
Oh GOD. Don't even get me started on Boxed Copies for Origin.
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[QUOTE=The Baconator;34517607]Plus Steam was appealing because it was having all your games in one place. Basically it's like how Xbox has XBL, PS3 has PSN, etc. This was appealing to people. It always has been.
Origin is a threat to this vision of all your games in one place.[/QUOTE]
I don't see what was wrong with EA having their games on Steam anyway, there's nothing threatening about putting your games on Steam, aside from the sales they have weekly, but even then if you're game were to be included in those sales it would probably increase the sales of the game.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;34517345]Tough luck. What if I wanted to play Half Life 2 without having to use Steam?[/QUOTE]
Pirate it
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To all of you bitching about steam being a monopoly. Yes, it is. But only because people realized it has good games, good prices, and doesn't fuck you over in every possible way once installed. Valve never set out to create a monopoly, and even when they did, they never got power hungry with it and crank up prices.
[QUOTE=Habsburg;34517696]Pirate it[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't even dare to pirate a Valve game. They're the only games that I KNOW deserve my money.
There are a few others that I would spend money on, but usually it's a hit and miss with most games I buy.
[QUOTE=LuckyLuke;34517652]Oh GOD. Don't even get me started on Boxed Copies for Origin.
[editline]2nd February 2012[/editline]
I don't see what was wrong with EA having their games on Steam anyway, there's nothing threatening about putting your games on Steam, aside from the sales they have weekly, but even then if you're game were to be included in those sales it would probably increase the sales of the game.[/QUOTE]
They can make 60 dollars instead of 45 dollars. They can also force people to use their dumbass dlc marketplace.
And Steam is only a monopoly for a service, not for it's store. D2D, Gamersgate, Greenmangaming, all have sales, and threads for those always appear on SPUF and they don't get closed or censored.
And you know why those sites are successful? They don't force you to install crapware, and they sell Steamworks games (you activate it on Steam).
I don't mind competition as long as it is healthy, but most people will favour over steam considering of the good deals during holiday sales and making it look like steam isn't a DRM when it is.
Origin is okay, I only use it for BF3 but I will always love steam because of its love in its customers and making a better service for people who used to pirate games
[QUOTE=FZE;34515360]Thank god you're here EA, those sadistic fucks at Valve were torturing us with weekly 50%+ off sales, seamless game integrated networking, and a colossal selection of AAA and indie titles. Now that we have Origin we can pay full price for two dozen EA games and also Dead Rising 2, be forced into using [URL=http://www.evenbalance.com/]anti-cheat software that was bad when it was new and ostensibly hasn't updated its website since 1996[/URL], and be thrown out of game servers because, and I quote, "1".
The problem with Origin isn't that EA are evil cocksucking goblin motherfuckers, or that their server network is broken as fuck, or that they release games months before they're done that have controls fucking hard coded to a keyboard button as though the player were using a goddamned Xbox controller, though all that's true, but that it is [I]completely[/I] unnecessary, and inferior in every conceivable way to alternative services that we [I]already have.[/I][/QUOTE]
Fun Fact: PB's Autoinstaller for CoD4 on a Mac is a PPC program :v:
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;34517856]I don't mind competition as long as it is healthy, but most people will favour over steam considering of the good deals during holiday sales and making it look like steam isn't a DRM when it is.
Origin is okay, I only use it for BF3 but I will always love steam because of its love in its customers and making a better service for people who used to pirate games[/QUOTE]
I have to use it for BF3, BF:BC2 & BF2. Sad times indeed.
[QUOTE=LuckyLuke;34517558]But that's where you're mis-understanding what i'm saying. I like Steam, I don't like Origin.
Steam is easy to use, Origin is a pain in the arse.[/QUOTE]
I'm not mis-understanding anything here. What if I didn't like Steam, but wanted to play HL2? I'd have the same problem you have with BF3.
Oh, and Origin is no harder to use than Steam. I don't know why you even brought that up.
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;34514105]not by you obviously considering you just posted three reasons which were so bad they made me want to stop using steam just to defy them[/QUOTE]
Well aren't you cool
Am I a bad person if I actually like Battlelog?
[QUOTE=hexpunK;34518029]I'm not mis-understanding anything here. What if I didn't like Steam, but wanted to play HL2? I'd have the same problem you have with BF3.
Oh, and Origin is no harder to use than Steam. I don't know why you even brought that up.[/QUOTE]
What I meant was that Origin is a pain in the arse as in it adds another digital distribution service that people have to install if they want to play any EA games, when originally EA games were available on Steam, so you had a fuckload of games in one place. Hell, most games you find now are on Steam, Origin forces people to install a second service in order to play a few good games which are Origin-only. The least they could do is add Origin & Steam compatability with Battlefield and Mass Effect and all of their other games.
[QUOTE=Aman VII;34518112]Am I a bad person if I actually like Battlelog?[/QUOTE]
BattleLog by itself is a great system. Nothing wrong with liking it.
[QUOTE=Aman VII;34518112]Am I a bad person if I actually like Battlelog?[/QUOTE]
Depends which aspect you like of it, if you like the idea of having a browser based menu, then yes, you are. If you just like the design aspects and how it integrates the menus quite smoothly into a nice all-in-one menu, then no, you aren't. But like all people, surely you should have some dis-concern with the fact that a main menu shouldn't be browser based for a game like this.
There's nothing wrong with what it does (Integrating each menu into one whole system), but it's how it does it (browser-based).
[QUOTE=hoodoo456;34513807]I may not like EA's buisness practices, but it's good to see that steam's dangerous monopoly on digitally downloaded games is getting some competition.[/QUOTE]
I would hardly Call origin competition.
[QUOTE=hoodoo456;34513807]I may not like EA's buisness practices, but it's good to see that steam's dangerous monopoly on digitally downloaded games is getting some competition.[/QUOTE]
Only competition because of BF3.
Still, its good that this is happening. Steam will come to collect the money for a few games soon...
And my trouble with battlelog is the fact that you have to start up the game every fucking time I go into a server.
EA could make it a healthy and friendly competition between Valve if they do it right, not forcing people into using Origin, instead they should improve it so people actually WANT to use it before they even consider calling it competition against Steam.
Battlelog is just dumb to me. It's like ubisofts drm where it just kicks you out if you have a connection hiccup for a split second.
I don't see the problem if Steam would be the only digital distributor.
Valve takes around 30% of all sales, and that ain't going to change.
But the prices on games are chosen by the developer/'publisher', which means that having the same games on different digital distribution systems, wouldn't make a price fight.
A digital distribution like Steam has the same price fights as eBay.
The only advantage of having multiple digital distributors, is the fight for the better program, features and such.
[QUOTE=Nikota;34518285]Battlelog is just dumb to me. It's like ubisofts drm where it just kicks you out if you have a connection hiccup for a split second.[/QUOTE]
That may be down to it being a web based system, it takes a little longer to re-establish that connection (TCP), than a game usually takes (UDP).
[QUOTE=hexpunK;34518029]I'm not mis-understanding anything here. What if I didn't like Steam, but wanted to play HL2? I'd have the same problem you have with BF3.
Oh, and Origin is no harder to use than Steam. I don't know why you even brought that up.[/QUOTE]
Well it is really easy to get DLC on steam. I don't know if origin does the same thing.
[QUOTE=hoodoo456;34513807]I may not like EA's buisness practices, but it's good to see that steam's dangerous monopoly on digitally downloaded games is getting some competition.[/QUOTE]
Can't decide if I agree or disagree.
Even if Steam does have a monopoly on the digital distribution market they've done nothing to really take advantage of it. If anything, games are [I][B]cheaper [/B][/I]through Steam than elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Habsburg;34518431]Well it is really easy to get DLC on steam. I don't know if origin does the same thing.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much the same. Go to store, find game, find DLC, buy. Most EA games update when new DLC is out to add it to the game, so buying it means you can play it without waiting.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;34518029]I'm not mis-understanding anything here. What if I didn't like Steam, but wanted to play HL2? I'd have the same problem you have with BF3.
Oh, and Origin is no harder to use than Steam. I don't know why you even brought that up.[/QUOTE]
Well that's too bad, since the majority of people think otherwise. Consumers control the market you know.
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