[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;31516419]Oh, I see what the statistic is saying. I was thinking you guys were saying that more Liberals believed in the concept of god than conservatives did. Of course a lot of liberals are believers, we live in a nation where Christianity is the most common belief and not only did that statistic say "do you believe that Christ is our savior" it stated god so that includes every other form of "god".[/QUOTE]
Well I suppose... But they're probably still the majority.
[QUOTE=mac338;31516422]Complaining doesn't solve this. If you want it moved to GD for example, you could - say, kindly PM a moderator?[/QUOTE]
I don't want the thread moved anywhere. If it was moved to GD I would hope that the posters there would realize that the OP's claims are baseless, but they would probably react in the same way that the posters here did.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;31516189]Considering the fact that in the last century at least, and I actually mean at least 120 million folks have died from shit like war and starvation that means God a fucking douchebag if he does actually exist.[/QUOTE]
Why would you think that God has any direct influence on our earthly lives. How do you know that the deity doesn't exist in some form that doesn't necessarily work in a "human" way?
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;31516449][URL="http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/13-culture/258-survey-shows-how-liberals-and-conservatives-differ-on-matters-of-faith"]54% of Liberals are[/URL] [URL="http://www.christianpost.com/news/how-does-the-faith-of-republicans-democrats-measure-up-26175/"]Christian.[/URL]
While Republicans have a higher percentage both groups share Christianity as their primary faith.[/QUOTE]
In Norway 70%+ are Atheists. A majority are liberals.
Useless fact of the day.
[editline]4th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;31516471]I don't want the thread moved anywhere. If it was moved to GD I would hope that the posters there would realize that the OP's claims are baseless, but they would probably react in the same way that the posters here did.[/QUOTE]
So report it?
[QUOTE=mac338;31516478]So report it?[/QUOTE]
What do you think I did the moment I finished reading the OP?
What would the world be without atheists :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=mac338;31516348]Religious people aren't more friendly then atheists.
Religious people aren't less friendly then atheists.
We are all equal.
There are idiots everywhere.
We grew up thinking slightly differently, but believing in god doesn't make you a better or worse person.
People everywhere need to understand this.[/QUOTE]
What you just said is the best post I think I've ever read on Facepunch.
[QUOTE=YourFriendJoe;31516415]I wonder how religion went...
"Hello everyone, my name Jesus. I am jewish". *everyone ignores him*
"I am the son of god"
Over 1 billion people now celebrate the birth of Jesus and devote their life to him,even though they probably have no idea when he was born.Wonder how that went,but that would be another book.[/QUOTE]
I just realized why Facepunch hates religion so much, it's because it's so god damned misinformed. I used to be a dedicated Catholic and I have read the Bible, the Torah, and the Quran. I was Buddhist for a while, Agnostic, then (as I am now) Atheist. Most Christians and other religious groups have little to no knowledge of eachother, in situations were that is not the case I have noticed everyone is very acceptant of eachother. Facepunch lacks this.
EI. Some are just as bad as a bible-belter in the deep south.
[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;31515526]Gotta love people who don't understand their religion.[/QUOTE]The wonderful thing with religion is that you can intepret is how you wish.
[QUOTE=mac338;31516478]In Norway 70%+ are Atheists. A majority are liberals.
Useless fact of the day.
[editline]4th August 2011[/editline]
So report it?[/QUOTE]
*whistle*
We got a man who knows his shit.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;31516327]And somewhat unrelated, but why is the Devil / Lucifer whatever he is called a problem when it comes to God? Isn't God all powerful? Why wouldn't he just wipe out all evil off the face of the planet, and handle this Devil guy and be done with it.
Now if I'm missing something, that means either 2 things. God is not all powerful, therefore cannot be called a God.
He is an asshole that doesn't care about millions of good people being slaughtered for absolutely nothing.[/QUOTE]God wants to test us :downs:
There was actually a comedian who (as a joke) gave god all shit and hell for being such a cruel asshole and he ended up saying "Why in all hell would i spend eternity with a giant, eternal bully whose only purpose in his existence is to burn us like ants with a magnifier. What a prick!"
Then he made a sequel show where he did NOT have to backpedal. Political correctness does not exist over here. Especially not the ass-backwards kind.
[QUOTE=Ond kaja;31516560]The wonderful thing with religion is that you can intepret is how you wish.[/QUOTE]
You can do that with everything, but I am pretty sure murdering is against the rules of any popular religion.
Wheres my AK-74M when I need it.
What kind, compassionate, loving christians they are, nothing bad about them at all.
oh wait...
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;31516449][url=http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/13-culture/258-survey-shows-how-liberals-and-conservatives-differ-on-matters-of-faith]54% of Liberals are[/url] [url=http://www.christianpost.com/news/how-does-the-faith-of-republicans-democrats-measure-up-26175/]Christian.[/url]
While Republicans have a higher percentage both groups share Christianity as their primary faith.[/QUOTE]
That wasn't what he was originally arguing. He was saying that most Christians are conservative, which is entirely true.
But you confused him by saying that most liberals are Christian.
He was comparing the number of Christian conservatives to Christian liberals, while you compared Christian liberals to Atheistic liberals.
I hate it when other Christians do this. It pisses me off when they spurt such idiotic shit out of their mouths, making the rest of us who are decent and mind our own business look like a bunch of dicks ourselves. Then again this applies to every belief out there.
oh religion,just getting hated more each day.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;31516327]And somewhat unrelated, but why is the Devil / Lucifer whatever he is called a problem when it comes to God? Isn't God all powerful? Why wouldn't he just wipe out all evil off the face of the planet, and handle this Devil guy and be done with it.
Now if I'm missing something, that means either 2 things. God is not all powerful, therefore cannot be called a God.
He is an asshole that doesn't care about millions of good people being slaughtered for absolutely nothing.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he uses evil to test people before they can get into heaven?
[QUOTE=Marbalo;31516509]I'm simply following Christian logic.[/QUOTE] No, you're following Fundamentalist logic, you do know that not all Christians believe the Bible word for word? The majority are protestant who interpret the Bible in many different ways. There are approximately 2.2 billion people on Earth who follow Christian faiths. To generalize that 2.2 billion people are all the same is an incredibly stupid generalization to make.
[QUOTE=mac338;31516348]Religious people aren't more friendly then atheists.
Religious people aren't less friendly then atheists.
We are all equal.
There are idiots everywhere.
We grew up thinking slightly differently, but believing in god doesn't make you a better or worse person.
People everywhere need to understand this.[/QUOTE]The big difference is that AFAIK an Atheist who gets worked up about Christians is a no-life dumbfuck while a Christian who gets abusive with an Atheist is a Righteous warrior of god when he is infact taking a holy shit at the essence of his own religion.
It's the same dilemma as the "It's only sexist when men do it" thing. Except us normal people see both as absolute shitheads.
[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;31516606]You can do that with everything, but I am pretty sure murdering is against the rules of any popular religion.[/QUOTE]
The only reason religion exists is because of how people perceive the world.
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;31516508]What do you think I did the moment I finished reading the OP?[/QUOTE]
Alright, good. After that the usual procedure is not to respond - clogging up posts/bumping the thread. Wait for a moderator response.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;31516189]Considering the fact that in the last century at least, and I actually mean at least 120 million folks have died from shit like war and starvation that means God a fucking douchebag if he does actually exist.[/QUOTE]
That is a very stupid thing to say, because first God doesn't exist in such a sense.
And second, if you were to blame someone for wars and starvation and the needless deaths of millions of people, you would have to blame it on us, people.
[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;31516606]You can do that with everything, but I am pretty sure murdering is against the rules of any popular religion.[/QUOTE]It's getting too mainstream to misunderstand your own religion. When will some hipster start practising genuinely.
[QUOTE=mac338;31516662]Alright, good. After that the usual procedure is not to respond - clogging up posts/bumping the thread. Wait for a moderator response.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I kinda got worked up about it and spammed the thread. Sorry everyone.
[QUOTE=The Vman;31516620]That wasn't what he was originally arguing. [b]He was saying that most Christians are conservative[/b], which is entirely true.
But you confused him by saying that most liberals are Christian.
He was comparing the number of Christian conservatives to Christian liberals, while you compared Christian liberals to Atheistic liberals.[/QUOTE]
Uh...
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;31516129]Utter bullshit. [b]You know the majority of Liberals are Christion too, don't you?[/b][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;31516183]Bullshit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;31516606]You can do that with everything, but I am pretty sure murdering is against the rules of any popular religion.[/QUOTE]
Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Bosnia/Herzegovina massacres (Christians vs Muslims, look up Ratko Mladic) and weren't there a bunch of videos saying the Koran tells people to murder non-Islamics (I remember the video, but I have not read the Koran and can therefore not confirm this statement, and am personally skeptical)?
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;31515750]This isn't fucking news.[/QUOTE]
Apparently it is.
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;31516684]Yeah, I kinda got worked up about it and spammed the thread. Sorry everyone.[/QUOTE]
Hearts are required for this man.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;31516660]I haven't said a single thing about that, christ, relax.
I meant Christian logic as in the religious logic itself, the basis of it, not the people who believe in it.[/QUOTE]
It seems like you were generalizing the current group of people when you said "Christian Logic," though I understand now what you really meant.
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