[QUOTE=kaine123;31516473]Why would you think that God has any direct influence on our earthly lives. How do you know that the deity doesn't exist in some form that doesn't necessarily work in a "human" way?[/QUOTE]
God's been an asshole from the beginning. Why would he create man to be imperfect, then punish him for it? Why would he tell Eve not to eat from the tree of knowledge when he [I]knows[/I] that she will (unless he's not all-knowing, and therefore not god) Then he goes and punishes all of mankind because of it.
Not to mention the fact that he sure seemed awfully active back when the bible was being written, bringing down towers of fire, setting plagues, parting seas.... but now he's just kinda lounging around, doing nothing, while his followers go about saying that he "works in mysterious ways."
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;31516664]That is a very stupid thing to say, because first God doesn't exist in such a sense.
And second, if you were to blame someone for wars and starvation and the needless deaths of millions of people, you would have to blame it on us, people.[/QUOTE]We do. We blame the Christians. They respond with further shithurling and keep raping our kids while forcing their narrow views down everyones throats. Can't we just revert back to Philosophy? Religion was a tool to raise kids not to go into the woods alone and such...
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;31515905]Religion is a terrible terrible thing, the hypocrisy that people demonstrate is astounding.[/QUOTE]
They're not all bad, just a small percentage makes it look terrible.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;31516688]Uh...[/QUOTE]
What he had initially argued:
Most christians are conservative.
Least christians are liberal.
What you said:
Most liberals are christian.
Least liberals are athiest.
You completely changed the discussion and confused him.
[B]EDIT[/B]
Derp, fixed typo
I love it when Christians seem to forget the 10 commandments.
Their life is supposedly built on those 10 rules, and they can't even follow them.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;31516740]They're not all bad, just a small percentage makes it look terrible.[/QUOTE]
I remember a famous comedian said something along the lines of:
[i]"The minorities are always the loudest, thus making everyone think of them instead of the quiet majority [about a subject]"[/i]
I think he/she was talking about feminism.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;31516725]So what the fuck is the purpose of following Gods 'orders' if he doesn't even care about us - people and what we do to ourselves.
And I've got no idea what "God doesn't exist like that" means.[/QUOTE]Most Christians cope with interpreting his existence in a kind of inter-dimensional way. He's everywhere and nowhere. He sees all and nothing He transcends time and space. Which is dumb as all fuck. PROVE IT! "You gotta belive man!" Fine pass me some of that weed!
The people who don't get this point, like everyone, start using the "You can't see air, but it's there!" argument. This is where it'd be smarter to just go away. But they're such good trolls.[QUOTE=booster;31516791]I love it when Christians seem to forget the 10 commandments.
Their life is supposedly built on those 10 rules, and they can't even follow them.[/QUOTE]NO! Jews live by those rules and 600 more in the tora. Christians should live by the new testament. If you are a Christian living by the 10 commandments alone then you're dumb as shit and doing religion wrong.
I've studied this shit to hell and back and been living in it my whole life. I know what i'm talking about when i claim that people with mental defects are prominent among modern Christians.
Why does it not suprise me that a thread on religion is getting millions of posts each minute?
[QUOTE=The Vman;31516775]What he had initially argued:
Most christians are conservative.
Least christians are athiest.
What you said:
Most liberals are christian.
Least liberals are athiest.
You completely changed the discussion and confused him.[/QUOTE]
I don't even know how to read this post, sorry. Can you please re-word it for me?
[editline]3rd August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=The Vman;31516775]What he had initially argued:
Most christians are conservative.
Least christians are liberal.
What you said:
Most liberals are christian.
Least liberals are athiest.
You completely changed the discussion and confused him.
[B]EDIT[/B]
Derp, fixed typo[/QUOTE]
Typo!
He did not argue that the least Christians are Liberal, he implied something else. I thought his post was slightly far-fetched so I put up a post saying that "hey, bud, you realize XYZ". He then replied with "Bullshit". If he's actually confused then let him say it for himself, how would you know such a thing? If I did confuse him then I am sorry, but so far there seems to be no evidence of this.
"Hey buddy, we're Christians and we don't like what you said.
Then forgive me"
[QUOTE=YourFriendJoe;31516809]Why does it not suprise me that a thread on religion is getting millions of posts each minute?[/QUOTE]
Well, it has to do with a title that involves a personal threat to a majority of the forums.
[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;31516606]You can do that with everything, but I am pretty sure murdering is against the rules of any popular religion.[/QUOTE]The bible is full with contradictions. One verse it says "thou shalt not kill" but the next it says "kill atheists, gays, whores...", so it's up to the reader which verse they want to embrace.
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;31516684]Yeah, I kinda got worked up about it and spammed the thread. Sorry everyone.[/QUOTE]
We're cool bro.
[QUOTE=mac338;31516853]Well, it has to do with a title that involves a personal threat to a majority of the forums.[/QUOTE]
Oh you're in so much danger of a hate crime right now aren't you.
[QUOTE=Keeshond v2;31516851]"Hey buddy, we're Christians and we don't like what you said.
Then forgive me"[/QUOTE]
Jesus don't forgive heretics :v:
[QUOTE=mac338;31516853]Well, it has to do with a title that involves a personal threat to a majority of the forums.[/QUOTE]
Good point.I have learned that anything involving athiests,masterbastion,or trolls is highly talked about on fp.
this is not news
Reminds me of some of the comments that Republican Presidential Candidate Gary Johnson got on his website when he said on the record that the "Marriage Pledge" (You know the I condemn Gays Muslims, and free black people thing) was offensive and unrepublican.
The fundamentalists came out of the woodwork,
Some of them actually said that him rejecting the pledge was the straw that broke the camels back as to why they couldn't vote for him.
Why would you even consider supporting a candidate like Johnson if you think the government should ban gay marriage and condemn single parents.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;31516872]Oh you're in so much danger of a hate crime right now aren't you.[/QUOTE]
You're missing the point. It's about it being an insult, not actually putting people in danger.
[QUOTE=YourFriendJoe;31516887]Good point.I have learned that anything involving athiests,masterbastion,or trolls is highly talked about on fp.[/QUOTE]
Majority of FP is consisted of young men, while very educated, still is very ignorant. But most of the people here are very young (13-30) so it's to be expected.
[editline]3rd August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mon;31516915]this is not news[/QUOTE]
This has been talked about for the last 3 pages, where were you?
[QUOTE=mac338;31516348]Religious people aren't more friendly then atheists.
Religious people aren't less friendly then atheists.
We are all equal.
There are idiots everywhere.
We grew up thinking slightly differently, but believing in god doesn't make you a better or worse person.
People everywhere need to understand this.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. The fact of the matter is we all need to learn to tolerate each other's beliefs. You know how many conflicts, from simple arguments to full-blown wars, we'd be able to advert if people were tolerate of other peoples' beliefs? For starters, a portion of the Anti-Gay movements all over the world would be extinguished, some insurgent groups in the Middle-East would have disbanded, anti-Muslim in America and antisemitic hate in the Middle-East would be nonexistent, which might pave the way for Middle-Eastern tolerance towards Israel, and that's just a few modern conflicts that could be adverted if people tolerated each others' beliefs.
From the things I've seen in my life and on this forum, not just Christians are being intolerant and counter-intuitive, all the almighty atheists have also been intolerant of people of all religions. My question to the intolerant, whether you be Christian, Buddhist, Atheist, or what have you, is: why do you have to attack people, either verbally or physically, because of what they believe? Why can't we all just get along and let people believe what they want to believe, assuming, of course, what they believe doesn't cause harm to other people (e.g. if someone believes gay people are the spawn of Satan coming to steal away our children and the only way to stop them is a shotgun blast to the face; at that point, the state would have to step in and disband it).
I wish for one day when the Christian and the Muslim and the Jew and the Atheist can all stand together and hold hands without bickering and hurting each other over their religion. The white flaming torch of peace might seem far away, but if every one of us does something as simple as tolerating other peoples' beliefs (assuming they don't directly harm anyone), maybe we can get there in our lifetimes. We've already made major strides towards that in the past, and I'll be damned if we never reach it.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;31516948]Majority of FP is consisted of young men, while very educated, still is very ignorant. But most of the people here are very young (13-30) so it's to be expected.
[editline]3rd August 2011[/editline]
Good point. From my understading(not to get off topic of op), Facepunch has many kid users pretending to be very older, considering lots of them think this is a thread for gmod and many children get it considering it is so cheap. At least that is what I have interperted from some of the kids on this site..
This has been talked about for the last 3 pages, where were you?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Novistador;31516920]Reminds me of some of the comments that Republican Presidential Candidate Gary Johnson got on his website when he said on the record that the "Marriage Pledge" (You know the I condemn Gays Muslims, and free black people thing) was offensive and unrepublican. [/QUOTE]
The pledge did not condemn free black people. It included (originally) what they saw as a sad reflection on the decline of family values among blacks.
why does staticman keep posting these threads anyway
its almost like he posts here solely to shit on christians/conservatives
[QUOTE=Fhenexx;31516981]Exactly. The fact of the matter is we all need to learn to tolerate each other's beliefs. You know how many conflicts, from simple arguments to full-blown wars, we'd be able to advert if people were tolerate of other peoples' beliefs? For starters, a portion of the Anti-Gay movements all over the world would be extinguished, some insurgent groups in the Middle-East would have disbanded, anti-Muslim in America and antisemitic hate in the Middle-East would be nonexistent, which might pave the way for Middle-Eastern tolerance towards Israel, and that's just a few modern conflicts that could be adverted if people tolerated each others' beliefs.
From the things I've seen in my life and on this forum, not just Christians are being intolerant and counter-intuitive, all the almighty atheists have also been intolerant of people of all religions. My question to the intolerant, whether you be Christian, Buddhist, Atheist, or what have you, is: why do you have to attack people, either verbally or physically, because of what they believe? Why can't we all just get along and let people believe what they want to believe, assuming, of course, what they believe doesn't cause harm to other people (e.g. if someone believes gay people are the spawn of Satan coming to steal away our children and the only way to stop them is a shotgun blast to the face; at that point, the state would have to step in and disband it).
I wish for one day when the Christian and the Muslim and the Jew and the Atheist can all stand together and hold hands without bickering and hurting each other over their religion. The white flaming torch of peace might seem far away, but if every one of us does something as simple as tolerating other peoples' beliefs (assuming they don't directly harm anyone), maybe we can get there in our lifetimes. We've already made major strides towards that in the past, and I'll be damned if we never reach it.[/QUOTE]
:allears:
[QUOTE=YourFriendJoe;31516995]Good point. From my understading(not to get off topic of op), Facepunch has many kid users pretending to be very older, considering lots of them think this is a thread for gmod and many children get it considering it is so cheap. At least that is what I have interperted from some of the kids on this site..[/QUOTE]
Fixed for ya'.
[QUOTE=Fhenexx;31516981]Exactly. The fact of the matter is we all need to learn to tolerate each other's beliefs. You know how many conflicts, from simple arguments to full-blown wars, we'd be able to advert if people were tolerate of other peoples' beliefs? For starters, a portion of the Anti-Gay movements all over the world would be extinguished, some insurgent groups in the Middle-East would have disbanded, anti-Muslim in America and antisemitic hate in the Middle-East would be nonexistent, which might pave the way for Middle-Eastern tolerance towards Israel, and that's just a few modern conflicts that could be adverted if people tolerated each others' beliefs.
From the things I've seen in my life and on this forum, not just Christians are being intolerant and counter-intuitive, all the almighty atheists have also been intolerant of people of all religions. My question to the intolerant, whether you be Christian, Buddhist, Atheist, or what have you, is: why do you have to attack people, either verbally or physically, because of what they believe? Why can't we all just get along and let people believe what they want to believe, assuming, of course, what they believe doesn't cause harm to other people (e.g. if someone believes gay people are the spawn of Satan coming to steal away our children and the only way to stop them is a shotgun blast to the face; at that point, the state would have to step in and disband it).
I wish for one day when the Christian and the Muslim and the Jew and the Atheist can all stand together and hold hands without bickering and hurting each other over their religion. The white flaming torch of peace might seem far away, but if every one of us does something as simple as tolerating other peoples' beliefs (assuming they don't directly harm anyone), maybe we can get there in our lifetimes. We've already made major strides towards that in the past, and I'll be damned if we never reach it.[/QUOTE]
It's human nature, but it's also human nature to evolve so to speak to get past arguments, and we will undoubtably eventually. Keep your attitude, I'll keep mine, and - I can't believe I'm saying this cheesy sentence, but spread the love - and we'll make the world a better place.
[QUOTE=Fhenexx;31516981]Exactly. The fact of the matter is we all need to learn to tolerate each other's beliefs. You know how many conflicts, from simple arguments to full-blown wars, we'd be able to advert if people were tolerate of other peoples' beliefs? For starters, a portion of the Anti-Gay movements all over the world would be extinguished, some insurgent groups in the Middle-East would have disbanded, anti-Muslim in America and antisemitic hate in the Middle-East would be nonexistent, which might pave the way for Middle-Eastern tolerance towards Israel, and that's just a few modern conflicts that could be adverted if people tolerated each others' beliefs.
From the things I've seen in my life and on this forum, not just Christians are being intolerant and counter-intuitive, all the almighty atheists have also been intolerant of people of all religions. My question to the intolerant, whether you be Christian, Buddhist, Atheist, or what have you, is: why do you have to attack people, either verbally or physically, because of what they believe? Why can't we all just get along and let people believe what they want to believe, assuming, of course, what they believe doesn't cause harm to other people (e.g. if someone believes gay people are the spawn of Satan coming to steal away our children and the only way to stop them is a shotgun blast to the face; at that point, the state would have to step in and disband it).
I wish for one day when the Christian and the Muslim and the Jew and the Atheist can all stand together and hold hands without bickering and hurting each other over their religion. The white flaming torch of peace might seem far away, but if every one of us does something as simple as tolerating other peoples' beliefs (assuming they don't directly harm anyone), maybe we can get there in our lifetimes. We've already made major strides towards that in the past, and I'll be damned if we never reach it.[/QUOTE]
*whistle*
We got another
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[b]EDIT:[/b] My automerge!
You know I think alot of people viewing this thread just like to read all our stupid posts...
[QUOTE=Mon;31517035]why does staticman keep posting these threads anyway
its almost like he posts here solely to shit on christians/conservatives[/QUOTE]
It evolved from mainly gay rights to shitting on Christians it appears
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