Video shows what appear to be U.S. Marines urinating on bodies
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[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;34181239]It's not an IQ test, it's an aptitude test. It shows you can learn.
Actually no, it's Red Cross and Red Crescent. You know what else provides a good future for your family? Any job with benefits. You don't need to go shoot little brown people to give a good future to your family.[/quote]
Actually, the US military is almost anywhere when there is a disaster with an annual budget of fifty five million on humanitarian and diplomatic aid alone.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;34181239]
Believe it or not, there are other groups that develop technology and provide humanitarian aid that invades countries for lies. Shocking, I know.[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not, the economy is bad, it is hard to find a job and the military looks great on a resume.\
What lies?
[QUOTE=ThePinkPanzer;34181278]Read above posts, I want to help people and secure a future life with a family.
a. Keep throwing insults, it just makes you look like more of a dick (which is hard.)[/QUOTE]
i read the above posts and they're terrible
if killing people is the only way you can secure your future and family you must be really stupid/unskilled
seriously if shooting at brown people is your only skill i can't help but feel sorry for you
i called you stupid because "a." was stupid and invalid
occupying another country does nothing to prevent attacks on our homeland especially considering the only attack that took place was made by a small group of guerrilla fighters who had to buy a plane ticket to have a good day. if anything occupying another country just means we're spreading our forces thin and making ourselves even more vulnerable to attack, so all in all you deserved to be called stupid for that
Whoa I thought they were taking the piss when I saw the title.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;34180665]Being in a useless war, killing people, is a pretty stupid idea all around. It IS murder. My opinion is to stop this fucking war that has NO end in sight and NO foreseeable goal, or even conclusion. THAT is my opinion.[/QUOTE]
War in Iraq is over. Troops are coming home. Afghanistan is scheduled for massive troop withdrawal in 2014. I think the end of major military operations is in sight. It might even be sooner depending on how Afghan negotiations go with the existing troop presence.
[quote][B]How about, you, the US, stops PUTTING people into the position to shoot at eachother? Oh no, that's impossible,[/B] [/quote]
Not really sure what this is supposed to mean. It's pretty vague. If you're implying that it's only the US's fault for conflict these days then you're definitely lost.
[quote]YOU have no fucking idea about that. For all you know, they could have been a victim of a war crime, and you wouldn't even know.[/quote]
But I suppose you do. After all, wouldn't that just further emphasize your warped point of view even more? Convenient eh?
I highly doubt they're victims of a "war crime".
[quote][B]Yeah okay, please excuse me if I doubt that. The marines are incompetent, they're too busy making gaudy commercials about how the military makes you into fucking superman.[/B][/quote]
Everything you say is full of ignorance and hate for something you don't really understand. You can disagree with the war all you want, you're entitled to it. But to denounce an entire branch and the principles they stand for is just ignorant. No soldier can deny the significance of their military service. There are tangibles and intangibles that are acquired during their service and each one is different from soldier to soldier. To a degree, the Corps will make you into a "superman". You'll be physically fit, have access to some superior training and you'll have the tradition and the prestige to go with it. That's quite an honor and no Marine can deny that it benefits them s a person in the civilian world.
Soldiers kill people. And the fact that they piss on a dead body enfuriates you people? WTF is wrong with YOU! What you should be mad about is people using White Phospherous against people, but nope.. a lil piss is what ignites you. Some people don't get the big picture.
[QUOTE]When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;34181304]or maybe they're just assholes.[/QUOTE]
That's very possible :v:
[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;34181356]To a degree, the Corps will make you into a "superman".[/QUOTE]
in fairness they're also really good at making you into a corpse too
[QUOTE=Kopimi;34181276]so you don't want to kill but you're still willing to risk killing people if you're told do?
i don't see how this is any form of a defense[/QUOTE]
Not when told to, when you think it's absolutely necessary, and when it's necessary depends on the person in question; I'm afraid I can't make a generalization like:
[QUOTE=Sanius;34180727]People who join the marines are almost always super-macho bullies[/QUOTE]
Nor can I make one like this:
[QUOTE=ThePinkPanzer;34180276]Military training does not make you a monster, I have met many well mannered soldiers. Hell, that is one of the things the military is about. You are trained to kill, not to be a dick.[/QUOTE]
I can only say that the people this article is about are dicks. Unless there's some data that shows there's a 60% sociopathy result in military service, I'm going to keep on believing that men and women of the military are normal people, unless they act otherwise. Now if you don't mind me my hands are shacking violently, so I'm gonna leave for a few hours.
The problem here is that the Marines have broken a respected norm amongst most cultures.
In all cultures it is appropriate to respect the dead. What the Marines have done is disrespectful and this is what is causing the outrage.
Imagine how you Americans would react if a Taliban pissed on your soldier's bodies? Would you go HURR HURR its just war then?
I know for a fact that if that happened to a British soldier the public would be up in arms about the disrespect
[QUOTE=ThePinkPanzer;34181333]Actually, the US military is almost anywhere when there is a disaster with an annual budget of fifty five million on humanitarian and diplomatic aid alone.[/quote]
As is every other UN country and the UN itself. What's your point?
[quote]Believe it or not, the economy is bad, it is hard to find a job and the military looks great on a resume.[/quote]
You can also go out and steal things, or join a gang, or sell meth, just because it pays, doesn't mean it's right.
[quote]What lies?[/QUOTE]
Saddam Hussein is armed to the teeth with WMD's, for 9 straight years, Osama is no where else BESIDES Afghanistan. You know, those little things?
I bet this sort of thing happens all the time
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;34180732]If some guy took a knife and ran into a fucking hornets nest of gang activity, and was shot, it would be very difficult to think of this guy as a hero, more of an idiot. So stop with this armchair commando "THEY NEED TO KILL TO NOT DIE AMERICA! HOORAH" bullshit.
If they're shit enough to piss on people they've killed, laugh about it, and put it on fucking youtube, I'm not in anyway coloured surprised if they're shit enough to kill a bunch of innocent people.[/QUOTE]
Don't put words in my mouth. Killing someone is never a good thing but like it or not that's why they're there. It's their job. To kill people that are trying to kill them. No matter your opinions on it that's what they do. Pissing on the people they killed is just adding insult to injury and is unnecessary.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;34181438]As is every other UN country and the UN itself. What's your point?
You can also go out and steal things, or join a gang, or sell meth, just because it pays, doesn't mean it's right.
Saddam Hussein is armed to the teeth with WMD's, for 9 straight years, Osama is no where else BESIDES Afghanistan. You know, those little things?[/QUOTE]
There were several planes seen leaving the country and crossing the border out several years ago, they coincide with a report Sadam made saying that he will be transporting any WMD's and such out of the country via converted passenger plane.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;34181438]Osama is no where else BESIDES Afghanistan. You know, those little things?[/QUOTE]
Forgetting the fact that the man does have legs, and a method of mobility through the region. You know, he can run from hostilities. It's not like he was in Pakistan the whole time while we're over in Afghanistan raping and pillaging civies. He had a huge influence on the region and that's why we were there.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;34181344]i read the above posts and they're terrible
if killing people is the only way you can secure your future and family you must be really stupid/unskilled
seriously if shooting at brown people is your only skill i can't help but feel sorry for you
i called you stupid because "a." was stupid and invalid
occupying another country does nothing to prevent attacks on our homeland especially considering the only attack that took place was made by a small group of guerrilla fighters who had to buy a plane ticket to have a good day. if anything occupying another country just means we're spreading our forces thin and making ourselves even more vulnerable to attack, so all in all you deserved to be called stupid for that[/QUOTE]
You throw petty insults and scream and cry and make generalizations while ignoring the apposing argument. You are an immature fool who thinks he is somehow looking better by trying to break down another's arguments via insults. You are pathetic. People like you are the reason so many people in the world are ignorent.
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Marines are a tool of destruction, if you want hand holding and hug-snuggling, call PBS
[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;34181356]War in Iraq is over. Troops are coming home.[/quote]
This doesn't fucking forgive what the US has done in that region.
[quote]Afghanistan is scheduled for massive troop withdrawal in 2014.[/quote]
Forgive me if I doubt that'll hold any water.
[quote]I think the end of major military operations is in sight. It might even be sooner depending on how Afghan negotiations go with the existing troop presence.[/quote]
And now you're dealing with Iran! Lets see how well America antagonises them
[quote]Not really sure what this is supposed to mean. It's pretty vague. If you're implying that it's only the US's fault for conflict these days then you're definitely lost.[/quote]
The only reason I can think, and I don't know if you have the capacity to understand this, is when you put your volunteer armed forces into an active combat, you are putting your people into a position to kill or be killed. It's pretty simple to understand.
[quote]But I suppose you do. After all, wouldn't that just further emphasize your warped point of view even more? Convenient eh?[/quote]
Never said I did lol. I like how you consider my anti-war views to be warped. I suppose your purview is slaughter anyone your government wants you to dislike.
[quote]I highly doubt they're victims of a "war crime".[/quote]
With the US' track record on that
[quote]Everything you say is full of ignorance and hate for something you don't really understand.[/quote] Could say the same for you, buddy.
[quote]You can disagree with the war all you want, you're entitled to it. But to denounce an entire branch and the principles they stand for is just ignorant.[/quote]It's ignorant to denounce killing?
[quote]No soldier can deny the significance of their military service. There are tangibles and intangibles that are acquired during their service and each one is different from soldier to soldier. To a degree, the Corps will make you into a "superman". You'll be physically fit, have access to some superior training and you'll have the tradition and the prestige to go with it. That's quite an honor and no Marine can deny that it benefits them s a person in the civilian world.[/QUOTE]
I can be physically fit without the military lol. Being physically fit doesn't make you a superman. And what the fuck does tradition do? That's just stupid.
I'm not doubting America's obsession with military and how it helps them in civilian life.
[editline]12th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=TheTalon;34181626]Marines are a tool of destruction, if you want hand holding and hug-snuggling, call PBS[/QUOTE]
Expert fucking post. Obviously not killing people means we want holding and hug-snuggling.
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MARINES CAN DO NO WRONG EVEN WHEN OTHER HIGHER RANKING MARINES DIRECTLY SAY IT'S WRONG
lol I love the logic by these apologists.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;34181626]Marines are a tool of destruction, if you want hand holding and hug-snuggling, call PBS[/QUOTE]I don't want a bunch of dumbfuck rednecks who join the military just cause they love shooting things either. But then I see an army recruitment ad and realize that's exactly who the military is looking for, so I don't get why any army officials could act surprised that something like this could happen.
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Peeing on bodies is disrespectful and Americans would be angry if the roles were reversed.
(Hyperbole - Most Americans would want to find the Taliban who 'did it' and lynch them if the roles were reversed)
War is bad, things like this happen but that in itself does not excuse the fact they did it.
People are right to be angry about this - if it were British, Canadian, French soldiers it would still be big news.
America is a civilised country and should respect every dead person like a civilised country. (Like every country should)
EDIT: Therefore it is right that the Marines should be punished for this.
EDIT: Just thought I would bring some reason into this :v:
[QUOTE=Mythman;34181431]The problem here is that the Marines have broken a respected norm amongst most cultures.
In all cultures it is appropriate to respect the dead. What the Marines have done is disrespectful and this is what is causing the outrage.
Imagine how you Americans would react if a Taliban pissed on your soldier's bodies? Would you go HURR HURR its just war then?
I know for a fact that if that happened to a British soldier the public would be up in arms about the disrespect[/QUOTE]
Haven't you heard? Respect for other people's feelings or beliefs these days is for fags. It's all about MY rights and what I want to do and if that happens to offend someone, they can go suck a fat one.
[QUOTE=Sanius;34180834]People who willingly sign up to go overseas and kill people have no conscience. Stop defending them as if they're some kind of tortured souls.[/QUOTE]
With this logic he is implying that every single Roman soldier has no conscience simply because they fought gloriously for their city.
[QUOTE=TheCloak;34182000]With this logic he is implying that every single Roman soldier has no conscience simply because they fought gloriously for their city.[/QUOTE]
which american city is being attacked again?
i must have missed the news of our invasion!
[QUOTE=Sanius;34180727]No she doesn't. People who join the marines are almost always super-macho bullies. They have no other marketable skills. They had no "humanity" to begin with.[/QUOTE]
honestly from what I've seen marines in my town have been nerds and moderately athletic rednecks.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;34182073]honestly from what I've seen marines in my town have been nerds and moderately athletic rednecks.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention there's a few people here who've partaken in military service and aren't "super-macho bullies".
[QUOTE=Shitcocks;34172929]Oh my lordy Jesus Christ!! Oh my god!! How disrespectful peeing on those innocent dead terrorists and how inhuman the action is!! How can you be so crazy to do that? God forbid taking away their lives, stand the fuck up they recorded themselves peeing on the terrorists. Punish them, send them to jail for the rest of their life.[/QUOTE]
Who ever you are, I salute you sir and wish to hug you.
The one fucking FPer that has not rocks in their skull.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;34181125]
b. if you join just for benefits you're even worse, because you're saying that human life is worth less than whatever dwindling benefits you get for enlisting and serving[/QUOTE]
Honestly, a lot of people are joining the army for the pay itself. Especially here in Norway where you get like $133 753 for about 6 months of service in the Middle-East.
[QUOTE=don868;34182135]Who ever you are, I salute you sir and wish to hug you.
The one fucking FPer that has not rocks in their skull.[/QUOTE]
why do you disagree with Marine officials?
do you hate the Marines you anti-American scum???
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