fake or real? I'm sure I seen this, so I'll watch it soon enough.
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2812084192530401757[/url]
That's just sad, poor alien.
[QUOTE=Best4bond;19839981]Oh no!
Hopefully they look like this...
[IMG]http://msp116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/moshitlikeitshot/mars_attacks.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
As a child that movie had me in tears from both fear and laughter.
[QUOTE=Best4bond;19839981]Oh no!
Hopefully they look like this...
[IMG]http://msp116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/moshitlikeitshot/mars_attacks.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
When i saw that movie as kid i fuckd my pants shit'd on my dick.
[QUOTE=benos;19840366]fake or real? I'm sure I seen this, so I'll watch it soon enough.
[URL]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2812084192530401757[/URL]
That's just sad, poor alien.[/QUOTE]
I just watched that and didn't know what to think, it's hard to tell if it is infact real or fake.
[QUOTE=Tools;19839471]What if they've found out some way to extract huge ammounts of energy from, say water?
There's a decent ammount of water on earth, enough to travel a decent length atleast, plus there's not many planets (atleast to our current knowledge) with water on.[/QUOTE]
Water's not that rare, bro, there's huge amounts of water in Europa and Ganymede alone, probably more then on Earth for each of them, or at least an equivalent.
Also, they'd be looking for Deuterium in that case, which [I]is[/I] an energy source, however it's doubtful Earth (which has a strong magnetic field and a protective atmosphere) would have as large a quantity of Deuterium as the previous moons I mentioned.
Also, I thought I'd share this: There will not be any middle ground, no "equal technology" standing between two alien species if they meet, the meeting will be equivalent to Gods to savages, the odds of two civilizations (already rare) having developed technology at the same pace and became space faring at the same time is simply too unlikely.
[QUOTE=Combine 177;19840739]When i saw that movie as kid i fuckd my pants shit'd on my dick.[/QUOTE]
wat
[QUOTE=Jimjim32;19839137]I don't doubt that there is intelligent life out there, we'll just never see it.[/QUOTE]
For all you know, you'll be laughing at your own comment in 50 years.
Well when we find the Prothean tech on mars the aliens will come to us.
[QUOTE=Gprimeisback;19841106]Well when we find the Prothean tech on mars the aliens will come to us.[/QUOTE]
In 2148 we will
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;19839147]Logical conclusion to draw, really. If there is interstellar life out there, is it necessarily a good idea to loudly broadcast our position to local space?
Why the the Europeans go to the New World? Need/desire for wealth and resources. What's the principal argument for expansion into space? Wealth and resources. What did we do to the people we found who were living on the wealth and resources we wanted? We brutally murdered almost all of them. What would aliens looking for natural resources do to a bunch of people occupying a world like Earth?[/QUOTE]
p much this
Bollocks. Imperialism was the reason Europeans took over America and slaughtered its native inhabitants (as well as forced themselves onto India, China, Japan etc).
The reason we are heading into space is on behalf of our will to explore, not because of imperialism. Space travel has only cost us resources so far and yielded none, and I don't think anyone is expecting otherwise.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;19841340]Bollocks. [/QUOTE]
the rest of your post is null and void because of this
[QUOTE=Eleventeen;19839772]We're alone in the universe. There are no aliens. It's stupid that you guys believe in aliens because 'derp we can't be alone' but you don't believe in a god because 'derp, show me proof'[/QUOTE]
That's because it's much more likely that other lifeforms exist than an almighty being ruling over all.
It sounds like a specially crafted excuse for making even more powerful weapons.
[QUOTE=BuddieBBB;19841488]That's because it's much more likely that other lifeforms exist than an almighty being ruling over all.[/QUOTE]
Sounds impossible that we are the only ones in this huge universe. And we are relatively new compared to some other planets and stars.
We have no proof that any other large, intelligent life forms exist out there,
Although alien-life forms have been found they are about microscopic.
Nobody knows if they are out there or not.
Those who believe that just believe it, it's just a matter on how weak-minded people are to such stories and those who are strong-willed.
[QUOTE=Eleventeen;19839772]We're alone in the universe. There are no aliens. It's stupid that you guys believe in aliens because 'derp we can't be alone' but you don't believe in a god because 'derp, show me proof'[/QUOTE]
Because science also brought us the wonderful concept of [B]statistics[/B] which, given the size of the universe and the number of stars within it, pretty much equates the possibility of Earth & the lifeforms on it being unique to zero.
If they came to our planet and landed in a public place for all to see, you can bet they'll turn hostile after the united states military marches in and opens fire on them for no reason, it happens in all the movies. :smith:
If life is not an accidental but an environmental creation then it is safe to assume that out of the billions of star systems with plenty of planets in our galaxy alone (when there are presumably millions if not unfathomable billions and billions, a billion billion fold, (or more) of other galaxies) there will exist a plethora of similar environments to ours and, presumably, on each of those similarly environmental worlds there will exist a chance that lifeforms similar to us might evolve.
Of course, this is precluding 'strange' biosystems which do not easily exist in our known environments. For instance, a world's crust could be constantly melting on one side and cooling and hardening on the other; this strange environment does not mean life could not exist. Or just because a world doesn't have a large quantity of carbon (even though carbon is very common from what we've seen so far) does not necessarily mean it cannot have life. Other forms of life may not even require things that we think of as necessities such as an atmosphere, warmth, or water.
So, really, I find it stupid that people can't even fathom the idea that aliens could exist because 'derp, only god can make life and life can only be like us'. I liken it to someone betting against the whole of the universe to wager 'there is no such thing as sentient vegetation'.
I saw somewhere on wiki that it's possible for viruses/bacterias to live on Venus.
I was searching alien or something.
Edit : double ninja post, oh my God.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;19841546]
Those who believe that just believe it, it's just a matter on how weak-minded people are to such stories and those who are strong-willed.[/QUOTE]
This made no sense to me
[QUOTE=Firgof Umbra;19841590]
So, really, I find it stupid that people can't even fathom the idea that aliens could exist because 'derp, only god can make life and life can only be like us'. I liken it to someone betting against the whole of the universe to wager 'there is no such thing as sentient vegetation'.[/QUOTE]
The egocentricism of humanity is sadly infinite.
[QUOTE=Eleventeen;19839772]We're alone in the universe. There are no aliens. It's stupid that you guys believe in aliens because 'derp we can't be alone' but you don't believe in a god because 'derp, show me proof'[/QUOTE]
If you use ANY other location in the universe as a base to go from, then life on Earth is 'alien'. People have got to either start understanding the term alien, or just leave it alone all together.
The real question is: does life exist in the universe? Yes. It does. Right here on this little planet. Why then should it NOT exist anywhere else? We've established that life does in fact exist, but why should this be the only place in the universe where it does?
I would not call it infinite, I would call it 'currently unlimited'. We've yet to see what response we'll have to other sentient life-forms in the galaxy visiting us; our expectations will also be set first by what sort of sentient alien species we encounter first.
Our whole view of the galaxy and universe (and also, likely, ourselves) might be altered merely by whether the incoming aliens have concepts of religion or not, for instance. A roll of the dice.
On a more scary note, if we do meet a spacefaring civilization which has met many other species it is possible that we might all immediately start dying off from incredibly advanced viral/bacterial/strange diseases. Even though they're likely to be incompatible with our biological system, there remains a possibility; and if the species which visits us is sufficiently advanced in medical technology then the diseases brought upon us might be incurable and so communicable that from patient zero to last (wo/)man on earth might only be a few hours.
Still, that is a -remote- possibility. What would be more likely is 'accidental importation' of some sort of strange non-sentient lifeform to our planet which, with no natural predators, would proceed to wreak unspeakable havok on our planet's ecosystem -- assuming it gets any life-sustaining nutrition at all from our ecosystem, that is.
[QUOTE]# Venus — Recently, scientists have speculated on the existence of microbes in the stable cloud layers 50 km above the surface, evidenced by hospitable climates and chemical disequilibrium.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life[/url]
There is it.
When earth becomes too populated, we'll move to Venus.
The biggest problem with finding life is that the more hospitable a planet is, the harder it is to see. These planets have low albedos, which means that they reflect very little light.
As for why this is so, it's because of the atmosphere. Light from the sun passes through and gets absorbed by the ground, then the ground emits it's own radiation but this radiation is blocked by the atmosphere. So basically the thicker the atmosphere the less you see from the outside
There's some plans to build a terrestrial planet finder but it's horribly expensive and not guaranteed to work
Well no shit.
I hope aliens visit us and share their space travel technology.
[quote]There is it. When earth becomes too populated, we'll move to Venus. [/quote]
[quote]The interesting pattern that we noticed is that hydrogen sulfide concentrations around the 50 kilometer cloud level are higher than near the surface of Venus," says Schulze-Makuch. "The pattern you would expect, if hydrogen sulfide can be attributed to volcanic exhalations only, is a maximum concentration near the surface and a dramatic decrease as you go up in altitude, especially given the oxidizing atmosphere.[/quote]
[quote]Venus is covered with an opaque layer of [b]highly reflective clouds of sulfuric acid[/b], preventing its surface from being seen from space in visible light. Venus has the densest atmosphere of all the terrestrial planets, consisting mostly of carbon dioxide, as it has no carbon cycle to lock carbon back into rocks and surface features, nor organic life to absorb it in biomass. A younger Venus is believed to [b]have possessed Earth-like oceans, but these totally evaporated as the temperature rose, leaving a dusty dry desertscape with many slab-like rocks[/b]. The water has most likely dissociated, and, because of the lack of a planetary magnetic field, the hydrogen has been swept into interplanetary space by the solar wind. [b]The atmospheric pressure at the planet's surface is 92 times that of the Earth.[/b]
Venus's surface was a subject of speculation until some of its secrets were revealed by planetary science in the twentieth century. It was finally mapped in detail by Project Magellan in 1990–91. [b]The ground shows evidence of extensive volcanism, and the sulfur in the atmosphere may indicate that there have been some recent eruptions. However, the absence of evidence of lava flow accompanying any of the visible caldera remains an enigma.[/b] The planet has few impact craters, demonstrating that the surface is relatively young, approximately half a billion years old. There is no evidence for plate tectonics, possibly because its crust is too strong to subduct without water to make it less viscous. [b]Instead, Venus may lose its internal heat in periodic massive resurfacing events.[/b][/quote]
Yes, you have fun with colonizing that deadly ball of not-farmable-at-all desert and deadly gas which is incredibly hot (461.85 °C), whose pressure crushes steel and iron like men's faces in Chun-Li's thighs, and also some times just 'lets off some incredibly hot steam'.
Well , I'll go in to severe hiding and wait till all the retarded assholes of this planet ( Criminals , Terrorists , religious people , anything that would cause problems ) which has made it into the hellhole it is today , and go with the aliens to make peace and colonise a new planet as a fresh head-start ( Technology , resources, knowledge , etc) for the New Human Race.
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