WAR! Ukrainian Forces Have Located And Destroyed Armored Russian Convoy
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USA Today posted this too: [url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/08/15/ukraine-russian-convoy/14097225/[/url]
[QUOTE=Gentry;45698233]i notice that the BBC haven't even reported on this incident or the incursion last night at all or this latest supposed clash.
I guess they're waiting for confirmation?
Because neither articles I've read so far on this actually confirm the version of events.[/QUOTE]
I have yet to see BBC, but other sources are reporting on it.
[url]http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-08-14/ukraine-aids-war-torn-east-as-nato-urges-russian-halt[/url]
[url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/15/russia-denies-ukraine-vehicles-military[/url]
[url]http://online.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-officials-start-inspection-of-russian-convoy-1408092018[/url]
I hope the situation isn't going to get worse.
[QUOTE=Melvinthe2nd;45698269]I hope the situation isn't going to get worse.[/QUOTE]
It will, especially after this.
[QUOTE=Gentry;45697962]Probably nothing will happen.[/QUOTE]
Everyone keeps saying this since the protests but I've only seen it getting worse and worse
[QUOTE=Gentry;45698211]Sorry but I would say RT is in the top ten news sources even posted on facepunch
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Yeah but 90% of the time it's posted by Laserguided or Conscript.
[QUOTE=Gentry;45697962]Probably nothing will happen.[/QUOTE]
Man I wonder how many people were saying that when Germany invaded Poland.
I'm not saying "IT'S WW3" but you or I don't know what's going to happen any better than the people who are saying that.
[QUOTE=-Rusty-;45698289]It will, especially after this.[/QUOTE]
It might possibly be used instead to make the ukrainians seem like they are attacking aid convoys. (if it actually happened because i'm unsure)
[QUOTE=Saber15;45698304]Yeah but 90% of the time it's posted by Laserguided or Conscript.[/QUOTE]
And the other 10% is karimatrix
Seems they want to make it look like Ukrainians attacked the white trucks and not the armed convoy, they will probably deny that one even existed because it's inconvenient.
[QUOTE=Ripper Roo;45698343]Seems they want to make it look like Ukrainians attacked the white trucks and not the armed convoy, they will probably deny that one even existed because it's inconvenient.[/QUOTE]
I know its pedantic but it said "armoured" not armed. I know it is convenient for you to use the latter though.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;45698371]I know its pedantic but it said "armoured" not armed. I know it is convenient for you to use the latter though.[/QUOTE]
The article in the OP said armed.
[url]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-15/ukraine-says-it-destroyed-part-of-armed-vehicles-from-russia.html[/url]
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;45698309]Man I wonder how many people were saying that when Germany invaded Poland.
I'm not saying "IT'S WW3" but you or I don't know what's going to happen any better than the people who are saying that.[/QUOTE]
I just think Russia is too smart to let something like this trigger a full blown war.
I think even if this does turn out to be true that they'll just chalk it down to acceptable breakage. The risk you sometimes run when you send military convoys through another countries boarder.
But I said probably - and we all know how probability works.
[QUOTE=Aw3s0m3n3ss;45698261]I have yet to see BBC, but other sources are reporting on it.
[url]http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-08-14/ukraine-aids-war-torn-east-as-nato-urges-russian-halt[/url]
[url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/15/russia-denies-ukraine-vehicles-military[/url]
[url]http://online.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-officials-start-inspection-of-russian-convoy-1408092018[/url][/QUOTE]
Well they're not.
They're all discussing the ambiguity of the same story.
There is no independent verification in any of those sources. Just discussions from people accusing and denying that the events even happened.
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[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;45698398]Considering most of modern Russian IFVs/APCs have autocannons and/or HMGs mounted in ways making them not-really-quick-detach-able, I'd say it's safe to assume they're both armoured and armed.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;45698371]I know its pedantic but it said "armoured" not armed. I know it is convenient for you to use the latter though.[/QUOTE]
It'd be convenient for me if this shit didn't happen at all, I just read it wrong. I don't know what you are even trying to imply here.
De-escalation seems like a long shot at this point. Better prepare for the worst just to be safe.
[QUOTE=Ripper Roo;45698430]I don't know what you are even trying to imply here.[/QUOTE]
He's implying that a convoy of unarmed or lightly armed vehicles is less indicative of a Russian invasion that a load of t-90s storming over the boarder.
As in they were probably just supplies heading for the rebels.
[QUOTE=Ripper Roo;45698430]It'd be convenient for me if this shit didn't happen at all, I just read it wrong. I don't know what you are even trying to imply here.[/QUOTE]
Its hard to justify blowing up unarmed people. Much easier if you say they are armed thats all.
Don't worry though, that source, unlike others which specified armoured, said they were armed.
All I see is the excuse that Putin has been waiting for.
Shit's escalating. You can't say "nothing will happen" at this point, because the situation is becoming more and more volatile.
[QUOTE=Clavus;45698506]Shit's escalating. You can't say "nothing will happen" at this point, because the situation is becoming more and more volatile.[/QUOTE]
who said nothing will happen
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;45698464]Its hard to justify blowing up unarmed people. Much easier if you say they are armed thats all.
Don't worry though, that source, unlike others which specified armoured, said they were armed.[/QUOTE]
I'm not one to justify Ukrainians, I'm half-russian myself if that matters at all. Still, it'd be better for all if they didn't blow up an unarmed convoy as that is likely to have some nasty consequences.
It's not like I buy Putin's propaganda though and I agree Ukraine has a right to defend itself, just that I do not wish for the conflict to escalate further.
oh shit it happening?
[QUOTE=efecanefe;45698542]oh shit it happening?[/QUOTE]
people have said this several times during this conflict
so I'll go with the usual response that was correct several times before
probably not
[QUOTE=Gentry;45697962]Probably nothing will happen.[/QUOTE]
Protests, nah nothing will happen.
Separatists claimed Donetsk, nothing will happen.
Plane gets shot down, nothing will happen.
Russian convoy wasted, nothing will happen.
So unless Russia suddenly has a vagina in lieu of a penis then yes, I'm very much expecting something to happen, especially since Russia isn't really averse to fighting.
If I could avoid getting killed because of some moronic Putin's dreams of a new Soviet Union that would be nice.
MGS5 is right behind the corner. If I don't get to know what will happen in MGS saga I would be very upset. Why all the shit has to happen on my lifetime? That's unfair, you know.
This is creepy. I wonder how much it'll escalate. Will NATO + EU just stand by and watch in future skirmishes between Ukraine and Russia?
[QUOTE=bravehat;45698560]So unless Russia suddenly has a vagina in lieu of a penis then yes, I'm very much expecting something to happen, especially since Russia isn't really averse to fighting.[/QUOTE]
If you're looking for a Russian response to this.
We've already got one
They said nothing happened. That's their official line over this event.
So take your non sequitur elsewhere
and whats this dumb stuff about dicks and vaginas lol
I'm concerned by all the people rating winner thinking this is a [i]good[/i] thing.
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