FFS: Westboro Baptist Church plans to protest Aurora shooting memorial service - Polidicks

Still waiting for Karma to send these people a runaway bus filled to the brim with Napalm and C4. A bit much? Seriously though, these people are fucking slime. I usually don't wish death on others, but I won't lose a minute of sleep if something horrible happens to these people. The fact that they refer to themselves as a "church" is just insulting.

[QUOTE=Ridge;36889461]I'm actually going to sit out the memorial tonight. I think these guys showing up only 2 days after this tragedy is going to illicit a LOT of negativity. I'd be concerned for people's safety there.[/QUOTE] The only people who's safety will be in danger will be the baptists, and I say we should LET them get hurt.

[QUOTE=CrispexOps;36894952]As a Christian, nobody that is a real Christian takes Westboro seriously. They have given us a bad name. Yes, there are people who like to preach to others and talk about how bad pre-marital sex and same-sex marriage is, but Westboro is by far the worst. They've given people the idea that "God hates fags" and a bunch of other stupid bullshit. If people read the Bible, including Westboro retards, it clearly states that God loves EVERYONE. While homosexuality and pre-marital sex is a sin, it never ONCE states that God "hates" it. God considers all sins wrong, none more wrong than another. So, me over-eating (gluttony) is a sin. Being jealous is a sin. You get the jist. However, in God's eyes we all sin, and we're all able to redeem ourselves. That's the idea of Christianity. No matter how bad you may fuck up, you can always find a spot in heaven. Now, you may think I'm stupid, retarded, etc. But that's an opinion. Christianity is just a way to live your life in a better way. It's not mean to be a tool to scare people or think your arguments are more right than the next. Here's my whole thing: You should live the way you feel comfortable with. Who the hell am I to tell someone they can't marry their same-sex lover? Who am I to say you can't have sex? That's another thing, God never said "no sex." So, let's get that shit out of the way and realize that we each have our own beliefs. Don't let Westboro scar you on Christianity or Christians in general. Westboro is a sad group of trolls who cannot accept the fact that the world is changing around them and that other people have the right to be happy. I apologize for Westboro. I assure you that there are people in this world who are Christians who are not rude and condescending. I believe in respect and peace. I love my atheist brothers just the same as I love my Muslim brothers. Tolerance. It's how we progress as a species.[/QUOTE] If only all Christians were like you.

[QUOTE=CrispexOps;36894952]As a Christian, nobody that is a real Christian takes Westboro seriously. They have given us a bad name. Yes, there are people who like to preach to others and talk about how bad pre-marital sex and same-sex marriage is, but Westboro is by far the worst. They've given people the idea that "God hates fags" and a bunch of other stupid bullshit. If people read the Bible, including Westboro retards, it clearly states that God loves EVERYONE. While homosexuality and pre-marital sex is a sin, it never ONCE states that God "hates" it. God considers all sins wrong, none more wrong than another. So, me over-eating (gluttony) is a sin. Being jealous is a sin. You get the jist. However, in God's eyes we all sin, and we're all able to redeem ourselves. That's the idea of Christianity. No matter how bad you may fuck up, you can always find a spot in heaven. Now, you may think I'm stupid, retarded, etc. But that's an opinion. Christianity is just a way to live your life in a better way. It's not mean to be a tool to scare people or think your arguments are more right than the next. Here's my whole thing: You should live the way you feel comfortable with. Who the hell am I to tell someone they can't marry their same-sex lover? Who am I to say you can't have sex? That's another thing, God never said "no sex." So, let's get that shit out of the way and realize that we each have our own beliefs. Don't let Westboro scar you on Christianity or Christians in general. Westboro is a sad group of trolls who cannot accept the fact that the world is changing around them and that other people have the right to be happy. I apologize for Westboro. I assure you that there are people in this world who are Christians who are not rude and condescending. I believe in respect and peace. I love my atheist brothers just the same as I love my Muslim brothers. Tolerance. It's how we progress as a species.[/QUOTE] That was awfully inspiration for someone who believes in [B][I][U]bullshit.[/U][/I][/B] [sp]I kid, sensible Christian's like you are actually sweet dudes to talk to[/sp] One has to ask: If we slaughter a bunch of them, will they protest their own memorial service?

[QUOTE=CrispexOps;36894952]As a Christian, nobody that is a real Christian takes Westboro seriously. They have given us a bad name. Yes, there are people who like to preach to others and talk about how bad pre-marital sex and same-sex marriage is, but Westboro is by far the worst. They've given people the idea that "God hates fags" and a bunch of other stupid bullshit. If people read the Bible, including Westboro retards, it clearly states that God loves EVERYONE. While homosexuality and pre-marital sex is a sin, it never ONCE states that God "hates" it. God considers all sins wrong, none more wrong than another. So, me over-eating (gluttony) is a sin. Being jealous is a sin. You get the jist. However, in God's eyes we all sin, and we're all able to redeem ourselves. That's the idea of Christianity. No matter how bad you may fuck up, you can always find a spot in heaven. Now, you may think I'm stupid, retarded, etc. But that's an opinion. Christianity is just a way to live your life in a better way. It's not mean to be a tool to scare people or think your arguments are more right than the next. Here's my whole thing: You should live the way you feel comfortable with. Who the hell am I to tell someone they can't marry their same-sex lover? Who am I to say you can't have sex? That's another thing, God never said "no sex." So, let's get that shit out of the way and realize that we each have our own beliefs. Don't let Westboro scar you on Christianity or Christians in general. Westboro is a sad group of trolls who cannot accept the fact that the world is changing around them and that other people have the right to be happy. I apologize for Westboro. I assure you that there are people in this world who are Christians who are not rude and condescending. I believe in respect and peace. I love my atheist brothers just the same as I love my Muslim brothers. Tolerance. It's how we progress as a species.[/QUOTE] I couldn't agree more with what you're saying. I'm glad there are people who are able to see the good things said in the bible. I mean, some of the things said aren't inspirational at all, but you can filter that out. But things like "don't kill people", "love your neighbour" and "do unto others as you would want to be done to you" are great things to live by. I'm glad you posted that, it's great to see that the christians who really are a true christian speaks up and put a stop to all the bullshit.

[QUOTE=BigBoom;36895856]One has to ask: If we slaughter a bunch of them, will they protest their own memorial service?[/QUOTE] The paradox boggles the mind.

[QUOTE=Jacknife;36888810]As edgy and angsty as this will sound, I would [i]love[/i] to be that father.[/QUOTE] lol yeah it'd be great getting life in jail right after your son dies and a load of people picket his funeral, plus any surviving members of WBC proceeding to get just as pissed off as you were and trying to kill you. that's not just edgy and angsty, that's [I]retarded[/I]

[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;36895618]If only all Christians were like you.[/QUOTE] A massive majority of them are, though.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36898085]A massive majority of them are, though.[/QUOTE] Well, the problem is most of the internet assumes we're all like Westboro. That's the problem. Christianity is actually a pretty accepting religion. It follows a simple moral code to live by. Just like Islam, there is extremism in any religion. Westboro is Christian extremism. See, the thing a lot of people think is that religion causes wars and nothing good comes from it. I simply find that not true. Yes, many wars have been caused by religion. People who use religion for political and war purposes are doing it wrong. The idea of Christianity is not to use it to act like a douchebag to other people. I don't think I'm better than a Muslim, Hindu, atheist, etc. We've all got our own beliefs and ways we believe we should run our lives. Not one is more right than the next. That's why with the whole gay marriage debate. My mother absolutely flips shit when you say "it doesn't bother me." She thinks that it's wrong. My thought is: Who says we should ALL be Christian and follow Christian ideology? That's the thing. We need to get rid of these negative views of ALL religion. There are negative aspects of every single thing. For example, you have atheists who are fine with people believing in religion, and you also get atheists who attack people over their other beliefs. Where religion goes wrong is when one person thinks they're more right than another.

This is abhorrent, religion is the #1 problem in our world today. [img]http://arctic-eagle.com/theownzone/the_goatman_cometh.jpg[/img]

Religion causes literally 100% of the problems in this world. Try and name one positive thing that religion has done. You can't? I am Not Surprised.

[QUOTE=EA_GAM3R420;36901642]This is abhorrent, religion is the #1 problem in our world today. [/QUOTE] Things like this just make me sick to my stomache.

[QUOTE=whale;36901682]Religion causes literally 100% of the problems in this world. Try and name one positive thing that religion has done. You can't? I am Not Surprised.[/QUOTE] religion did cancer unveil the truth 2012

[QUOTE]If people read the Bible, including Westboro retards, it clearly states that God loves EVERYONE. [B]While homosexuality and pre-marital sex is a sin, it never ONCE states that God "hates" it. God considers all sins wrong, none more wrong than another.[/B][/QUOTE] You had me until the bolded part.

[QUOTE=En Ex;36901907]You had me until the bolded part.[/QUOTE] Oh shit, he said ONE THING wrong in an otherwise well structured and intelligent argument! Time to disregard EVERYTHING he said! :downs:

[QUOTE=Xenomoose;36901991]Oh shit, he said ONE THING wrong in an otherwise well structured and intelligent argument! Time to disregard EVERYTHING he said! :downs:[/QUOTE] I think his heart is in the right place, and I agree with his general sentiment. But the part I quoted threw me off, and it makes it difficult for me to agree with his overall post.

[QUOTE=En Ex;36902022]I think his heart is in the right place, and I agree with his general sentiment. But the part I quoted threw me off, and it makes it difficult for me to agree with his overall post.[/QUOTE] I guess I understand. Hearts a-plenty.

[QUOTE=whale;36901682]Religion causes literally 100% of the problems in this world. Try and name one positive thing that religion has done. You can't? I am Not Surprised.[/QUOTE] Do you want me to list every charity started by a religious organization by name?

I love how you can just mention Westboro Baptist Church to anyone, even Christians, and they'll just burst out laughing. The only reason I'm not enraged is because I can't take them seriously. Or because I'm so dumbfounded I just don't feel the anger yet.

What if there was some selfless man, who threw away the possibility of getting sued to oblivion and thrown in jail, and just went out and beat the living shit out of the leaders of WBC

[QUOTE=CrispexOps;36894952]While homosexuality [...] is a sin[/QUOTE] Only in the Old Testament, which got thrown out when Jesus rolled in. Other than that, this was one of the best posts I've read in a long time, especially regarding religion.

It's never stated that homosexuality is a sin in any version of the bible fyi.

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;36905167]It's never stated that homosexuality is a sin in any version of the bible fyi.[/QUOTE] Except for that part where you have to throw rocks at gay people until they die.

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;36905167]It's never stated that homosexuality is a sin in any version of the bible fyi.[/QUOTE] [quote]Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.[/quote] Sounds like it.

[QUOTE=megafat;36905422]Sounds like it.[/QUOTE] It's not actually. That quote is taken into the wrong context. I've seen proof of it but I can't find the actual academic source. However there was this blog post that had something relatively similar to the findings of the academic resource. [url]http://hoperemains.webs.com/leviticus1822.htm[/url] [quote]This is the correct translation of Leviticus 18:22. It can be seen that, rather than forbidding male homosexuality, it simply forbids two males to lie down in a woman’s bed, for whatever reason. Culturally, a woman's bed was her own. Other than the woman herself, only her husband was permitted in her bed, and there were even restrictions on when he was allowed in there. Any other use of her bed would have been considered defilement. Other verses in the Law will help clarify the acceptable use of the woman's bed (Lev. 15).[/quote] Read it all though. It's a good read.

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;36905533]It's not actually. That quote is taken into the wrong context. I've seen proof of it but I can't find the actual academic source. However there was this blog post that had something relatively similar to the findings of the academic resource. [url]http://hoperemains.webs.com/leviticus1822.htm[/url] Read it all though. It's a good read.[/QUOTE] One morally backward verse crudely reinterpreted to keep up with the times, a million more to go.

Actually it states in the Bible that the Old Testament isn't followed, but it is to not be forgotten. Basically I myself think it's an example of what Christianity should never be. Pre-Jesus Christianity was insane. Seriously. Here's the way I look at homosexuality: It's not mentioned a great deal in the Bible. It's an arguable area. People simply like to enforce the "no homosexuality" thing because they themselves think it's unnatural and are afraid of it. People are afraid of what they don't know or aren't capable of understanding. Like Westboro. Obviously not a single one of them actually reads the Bible. I myself think God is disgusted with them. Like I said before, people see bad things happen in the name of religion and assume all religion is like that. Yes, there is killing. Yes, there is intolerance, but generalizing a group on the actions of few is just as bad as the groups being intolerant themselves. There is good that comes from religion too. Look a the vast amounts of charities and people that various religions have helped. Yes, I know the Salvation Army discriminates against gays. You'll have that in Christian charities. Once again, intolerance and hate speaking. You should help your fellow man regardless of their preference and beliefs. That's like with atheists: I would never go up to someone who is a clear atheist and say, "God is real, you are wrong." It's not in my position to do that. Who am I to step on the toes of others beliefs simply because I read the Bible? I expect to be treated the same. It offends me when someone comes in a public forum when God is mentioned and says, "The Bible is a work of fiction." Well, that's an opinion. You know what they say: Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, and they usually stink. I hold a higher level of respect for those who respect others religions than the ones who try so desperately to down the others. For example, I was flipping through on TV the other day and saw some Christian network. They were playing an advert for a book written by someone who says that Islam is the religion of the devil "as said by the Bible." It made me sick. People like to take the Bible and twist it to what is most convenient for them. The Bible leaves a lot of areas empty while it emphasizes other areas. For example, masturbation is never mentioned in the Bible. A lot of people like Catholics imply that "spilling the seed" is the same thing, but nobody can be 100% sure. The thing you have to watch out for is different translations of the Bible. The Catholic Bible mentions about how you should pray to Saint Mary to get to Jesus. It also mentions purgatory, which was later revoked in new revisions of the Catholic Bible. The other Bibles such as NIV say you should pray directly to God. If you want the real Bible, you'll have to acquire a copy of the Hebrew Bible, which is direct from the Dead Sea Scrolls. People really need to stop arguing about what they THINK a 2000 year old book says. Live by the basic principles. Don't kill, steal, commit adultery, etc. The 10 Commandments are what consist of our standard moral code. Even those of different religions recognize these basic rules.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;36877740][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOrz5k0jWdU[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ticxD0GfewA[/media] [/QUOTE] Never before have I wanted to kill a group of people so badly, then when I watched these videos. I'm not joking either.

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;36905533]It's not actually. That quote is taken into the wrong context. I've seen proof of it but I can't find the actual academic source. However there was this blog post that had something relatively similar to the findings of the academic resource. [url]http://hoperemains.webs.com/leviticus1822.htm[/url] Read it all though. It's a good read.[/QUOTE] if that interperetation is just as valid as any of the others, why is it that you state your interperetation as fact? it could just as likely be condemning homosexuality as it could be telling men not to sleep in a woman's bed - it is not 100% certain that it is stating that homosexuality is a sin, but nonetheless it's still a possibility that I think is about 50/50.

[QUOTE=Mr. N;36877423]Somebody should do a peaceful counter protest, like those guys who formed a ring around a soldiers funeral.[/QUOTE] I heard a bunch of redditors were planning on doing this, time will tell if they do.