• Malaysian passenger airliner shot down over Ukraine near Russian border
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[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;45419825]No. It's not. It's like driving through a neighborhood where a few people own a small handful of guns and have no history of using them on innocent people passing through.[/QUOTE] ...But have a history using them against the police when they patrol in the area. They have no reason to kill you but mistakes can happen and it's not a safe place to be when you could drive on a road two blocks away instead.
[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;45419891]Reports coming in the pro Russian separatist have the black box FUCK[/QUOTE] Earlier reports quoted rebels as saying they intended to send the flight recorders to Moscow for checking.
[QUOTE=Dermock;45419865]what's the noise in the background?[/QUOTE] I assume some kind of truck with engine issues.
[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;45419891]Reports coming in the pro Russian separatist have the black box FUCK[/QUOTE] They have pretty much fucked themselves over at this point. Blatantly lying about not having Buks and then taking the flight recording is a sure fire way to damn themselves.
I wonder what Putin will have to say about all this
[QUOTE=seano12;45419787]Link?[/QUOTE] I was watching it on the news. Walking home from a diner. No idea if it's still on.
[QUOTE=Paradox621;45419915]There are many other ways to prove that this plane was shot down.[/QUOTE] Good luck getting a closer look at it, though.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;45419935]What fucking cocksucker shoots down a passenger plane?[/QUOTE] The plane was too high up for some dude with a shoulder held launcher. This would have to be a radar-guided missile station or a fighter jet shoot down.
[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;45419934]I wonder what Putin will have to say about all this[/QUOTE] He'll probably say that he isn't responsible for mistakes made by an independent group. (Who happen to have military hardware)
[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;45419934]I wonder what Putin will have to say about all this[/QUOTE] "There was no Malaysian airline plane. There is no such thing as a Malaysian airline. The US is trying to start a war for profit."
Obama about the flight: [video=youtube;5GHeZp5d03Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GHeZp5d03Y[/video]
Friend of mine knew someone on that plane, I'd met the guy a few times. He posted a picture on FB about how excited he was 2 hours before he left...
meanwhile at RT President Putin's plane might have been the target for Ukrainian missile - sources [url]http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/[/url]
On the [url]http://vk.com/strelkov_info[/url] thing, they first claim that their SAM range is only 2,5 km, then claim that it was shot down by an ukrainian jet, then say that it's a USA/NATO false flag operation, then claim that their range is actually 4 km and bring up the 2001 incident and then show a vkontakte message from an allegedly ukrainian army group that says that the ukrainians have shot down a terrorist plane with 280 terrorists on board. Honestly, this is fucking retarded.
[QUOTE=Nif90;45419979]meanwhile at RT President Putin's plane might have been the target for Ukrainian missile - sources [url]http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/[/url][/QUOTE] Fucking what
[QUOTE=Nif90;45419979]meanwhile at RT President Putin's plane might have been the target for Ukrainian missile - sources [url]http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/[/url][/QUOTE] Gotta love RT.
[QUOTE=Nif90;45419979]meanwhile at RT President Putin's plane might have been the target for Ukrainian missile - sources [url]http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/[/url][/QUOTE] I know it's RT, but can they at least think of a more reliable story? This is just sad.
Honestly I don't believe it's rebels. They don't have a history of being THAT incompetent. Either way even if they are not responsible they probably won't be able to prove it, even if they had unbeatable facts.
Of course it all makes sense. The Ukrainian government shot down that passenger plane because they thought Ki... President Putin was aboard.
[QUOTE=Demeschik;45419991]On the [url]http://vk.com/strelkov_info[/url] thing, they first claim that their SAM range is only 2,5 km, then claim that it was shot down by an ukrainian jet, then say that it's a USA/NATO false flag operation, then claim that their range is actually 4 km and bring up the 2001 incident and then show a vkontakte message from an allegedly ukrainian army group that says that the ukrainians have shot down a terrorist plane with 280 terrorists on board. Honestly, this is fucking retarded.[/QUOTE] Oh damn, he's just proving he's a loony.
This is one giant clusterfuck
Apparently rebels got the box and are turning it over to the russians. Well there goes most of the truth probably.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420017]Honestly I don't believe it's rebels. They don't have a history of being THAT incompetent. Either way even if they are not responsible they probably won't be able to prove it, even if they had unbeatable facts.[/QUOTE] I can't tell if you're a parody or not.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420017]Honestly I don't believe it's rebels. They don't have a history of being THAT incompetent. Either way even if they are not responsible they probably won't be able to prove it, even if they had unbeatable facts.[/QUOTE] Even the US downed an Iranian civ aircraft once, even with all their tech. You just need one idiot behind the trigger.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420017]Honestly I don't believe it's rebels. They don't have a history of being THAT incompetent. Either way even if they are not responsible they probably won't be able to prove it, even if they had unbeatable facts.[/QUOTE] Still, I couldn't think of any reason for Ukraine or Russia to do this though. I doubt Ukraine would mistakenly shoot down a commercial airline or Russia to shoot down a plane over Ukraine territory. It's most likely some rookie rebel who did this.
[QUOTE=jason3232;45420042]Still, I couldn't think of any reason for Ukraine or Russia to do this though. I doubt Ukraine would mistakenly shoot down a commercial airline or Russia to shoot down a plane over Ukraine territory. It's most likely some rookie rebel who did this.[/QUOTE] How did a rookie rebel get his hands on this kind of firepower?
[QUOTE=download;45420040]I can't tell if you're a parody or not.[/QUOTE] Says the guy who jokes about metro crashes.
[QUOTE=jason3232;45420042]Still, I couldn't think of any reason for Ukraine or Russia to do this though. I doubt Ukraine would mistakenly shoot down a commercial airline or Russia to shoot down a plane over Ukraine territory. It's most likely some rookie rebel who did this.[/QUOTE] It could be a Ukrainian provocation. But even though I hate the Ukrainian government I don't believe they would do it either. That's just way over the top. Probably someone really fucked up and it seems that this time it's on the rebels side.
I really can't see any reason for the Ukraine to do this. They obviously knew what the plane was and they had literally no reason to shoot it down. Hell I doubt Ukraine has much AA deployed considering the lack of air threats
[QUOTE=codemaster85;45420038]Apparently rebels got the box and are turning it over to the russians. Well there goes most of the truth probably.[/QUOTE] ehh, even without the boxes, if you piece the remnants of the plane together you generally can see an explosion hole.
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