Malaysian passenger airliner shot down over Ukraine near Russian border
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[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420169]We at facepunch don't need any investigation or proof. We are all world class experts on weaponry, politics and aircraft. Why meddle with opinions, rumors, information, proof?
Fuck this shit.
Roll in the guillotines, hang the ones we dislike as a group! It's that simple.[/QUOTE]
Imagine the song and dance if Facepunch were to somehow become a real country.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420169]We at facepunch don't need any investigation or proof. We are all world class experts on weaponry, politics and aircraft. Why meddle with opinions, rumors, information, proof?
Fuck this shit.
Roll in the guillotines, hang the ones we dislike as a group! It's that simple.[/QUOTE]
In other words you cant refute my post
I am not supporting Strelkov or anyone. You are just pathetic.
[b] HEY GUYS SOMETHING HAS SEEMINGLY PROVEN THAT GUYS WE DISLIKE ARE BAD! [/b]
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420179]You can prove it didn't happen?[/QUOTE]
Thats not how this works.
Burden of proof is on you because you made the claim.
Is anyone still doubting DNR involement?
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420187]I am not supporting Strelkov or anyone. You are just pathetic.
[b] HEY GUYS SOMETHING HAS SEEMINGLY PROVEN THAT GUYS WE DISLIKE ARE BAD! [/b][/QUOTE]
I'm at a loss for words.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420169]We at facepunch don't need any investigation or proof. We are all world class experts on weaponry, politics and aircraft. Why meddle with opinions, rumors, information, proof?
Fuck this shit.
Roll in the guillotines, hang the ones we dislike as a group! It's that simple.[/QUOTE]
The Pro-Russian rebels are rolling back any mention of their AA capabilities so hard that I expect they are going to claim that Buks are a fictional devices that have never existed.
Without trying to sound like a conspiracy nut, what if this was some cleverly executed false flag or terrorist ordeal where they [I]planned[/I] to bring it down over the Ukraine on purpose?
80 of the 295 passengers were children :I
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420169]We at facepunch don't need any investigation or proof. We are all world class experts on weaponry, politics and aircraft. Why meddle with opinions, rumors, information, proof?
Fuck this shit.
Roll in the guillotines, hang the ones we dislike as a group! It's that simple.[/QUOTE]
You act as if it's just Facepunch that's speculating on a developing story.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;45419964]Friend of mine knew someone on that plane, I'd met the guy a few times. He posted a picture on FB about how excited he was 2 hours before he left...[/QUOTE]
Dutch, I'm guessing?
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;45420210]Without trying to sound like a conspiracy nut, what if this was some cleverly executed false flag or terrorist ordeal where they [I]planned[/I] to bring it down over the Ukraine on purpose?[/QUOTE]
Ukraine was recently successfully getting rid of the rebels, they had no reason to risk like this.
the amount of idiots in this thread
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420187]I am not supporting Strelkov or anyone. You are just pathetic.
[B] HEY GUYS SOMETHING HAS SEEMINGLY PROVEN THAT GUYS WE DISLIKE ARE BAD! [/B][/QUOTE]
Anyone making wild detailed claims about what caused a crash that happened <6 hours ago is stupid.
Case and point.
[QUOTE=Angus725;45418297]The collateral damage in war outweighs any gains from any side.
World peace is not achieved by sitting idle when there is conflict, it is achieved by taking action when it's still possible to stop and prevent conflict.
It seems the world has not learned enough from the last world war, must history always be repeated?[/QUOTE]
Conflicts since WW2 are at an historical low. History is repeated less and less with every year that passes.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;45420193]Thats not how this works.
Burden of proof is on you because you made the claim.[/QUOTE]
[b]Sure[/b]
I am booking my flight to Ukraine now. Oh wait... Okay, I will buy a bus ticket.
I will go to Kiev. I will torture the politcians, bribe military, inspect confidential data.
Then I will go to DNR, ride a tank right into Donetsk. I will capture their leaders and will cut their fingers until I find out the truth.
Then I will go back to my house, open my browser and write you a post about who did what in that war. After all, [b] I wrote 4 lines on the internet, it's now my life goal to prove something to an anonymous[/b].
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I'm heavily suspicious of the Russians and the rebels they support They have the incentive to do the attack and frame the Ukraine. I can't see what the Ukraine could gain.
Could also just an accident from either side somehow.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;45420210]Without trying to sound like a conspiracy nut, what if this was some cleverly executed false flag or terrorist ordeal where they [I]planned[/I] to bring it down over the Ukraine on purpose?[/QUOTE]
If the separatists knew they didn't do it, why would their story be changing so much?
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;45420210]Without trying to sound like a conspiracy nut, what if this was some cleverly executed false flag or terrorist ordeal where they [I]planned[/I] to bring it down over the Ukraine on purpose?[/QUOTE]
Has any country ever purposely killed their own citizens in a false flag operation to start a conflict? And don't give me 9/11 conspiracy theories.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420187]I am not supporting Strelkov or anyone. You are just pathetic.
[b] HEY GUYS SOMETHING HAS SEEMINGLY PROVEN THAT GUYS WE DISLIKE ARE BAD! [/b][/QUOTE]
6 dumbs in under a minute, a new record, well done.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420238][b]Sure[/b]
I am booking my flight to Ukraine now. Oh wait... Okay, I will buy a bus ticket.
I will go to Kiev. I will torture the politcians, bribe military, inspect confidential data.
Then I will go to DNR, ride a tank right into Donetsk. I will capture their leaders and will cut their fingers until I find out the truth.
Then I will go back to my house, open my browser and write you a post about who did what in that war. After all, [b] I wrote 4 lines on the internet, it's now my life goal to prove something to an anonymous[/b].[/QUOTE]
fucking wut
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;45420225]You act as if it's just Facepunch that's speculating on a developing story.[/QUOTE]
Of course not. But Facepunch is the most objective discussion board I know. Can't we wait for the actual investigation?
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420238][b]Sure[/b]
I am booking my flight to Ukraine now. Oh wait... Okay, I will buy a bus ticket.
I will go to Kiev. I will torture the politcians, bribe military, inspect confidential data.
Then I will go to DNR, ride a tank right into Donetsk. I will capture their leaders and will cut their fingers until I find out the truth.
Then I will go back to my house, open my browser and write you a post about who did what in that war. After all, [b] I wrote 4 lines on the internet, it's now my life goal to prove something to an anonymous[/b].[/QUOTE]
You're fucking disgusting.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420250]Of course not. But Facepunch is the most objective discussion board I know. Can't we wait for the actual investigation?[/QUOTE]
God forbid people speculate on a story
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;45420210]Without trying to sound like a conspiracy nut, what if this was some cleverly executed false flag or terrorist ordeal where they [I]planned[/I] to bring it down over the Ukraine on purpose?[/QUOTE]
What if it was a russian false flag appearing to be a ukranian false flag?
Falseflagception
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420250]Of course not. But Facepunch is the most objective discussion board I know. Can't we wait for the actual investigation?[/QUOTE]
Why do you insist on digging yourself into a deeper hole? do you want to invite some more trouble? Because I'm pretty sure if you keep this up, you'll have a lot more to worry about than dumbs.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45420250]Of course not. But Facepunch is the most objective discussion board I know. Can't we wait for the actual investigation?[/QUOTE]
You haven't been on many forums then. FP is a lite version of other forums.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;45420230]Ukraine was recently successfully getting rid of the rebels, they had no reason to risk like this.[/QUOTE]
Successful? I thought they lost almost an entire tank battalion recently.
[QUOTE=seano12;45420267]Successful? I thought they lost almost an entire tank battalion recently.[/QUOTE]
Rebels left a few towns and Russia didn't support them. So yeah, pretty succesful.
Honestly my best guess is that Rebels with a Buk fucked up and targeted the wrong plane, ignoring the distinction of it being civilian, too high for an Ukrainian plane, etc.
Obviously, that's just a guess that may or may not be various degrees of educated, but that's besides the point.
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