• Malaysian passenger airliner shot down over Ukraine near Russian border
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[QUOTE=arthuro12;45421728]I saw a pretty ghastly vid of that right after it crashed, sounded like gunshots going off.. pretty dodgy looking guys walking around too. Ehh apparantly this is a digitally enhanched recording of it.. [video=youtube;FEx7HL4H5yk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEx7HL4H5yk[/video] I remain neutral on this until I see solid proof. I know Russia can play games but they have said they lost some control over separatist militia's.. I can imagine one of them fucking up. They did claim they shot down a Ukrainian military transport around the time the crash happened.[/QUOTE] Who exactly is being shot at?
[QUOTE=Demeschik;45421873]TERRORIST: About that plane that got taken down near Snezhny-Torez. It's a civilian plane. It fell near Grabovo, there's a lot of female and children bodies. The cossacks are watching over it all. T (again): On the television they report that it was a AN-26, a ukrainian transport, but say that it's marked "Malaysian Airlines". What was it doing in Ukraine? KOZYTSIN: It means that they were transporting spies. They shouldn't have flown, there's a war going on. T: Yes, sir, I understand (not transcribed)[/QUOTE] Hoo boy.
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[QUOTE=Bazsil;45421942]If this is accurate it doesn't bode too well for the separatists, it looks like a motive[/QUOTE] It is accurate. There's some swearing and he slurs a couple more words, but I translated as close as possible to provided captions.
[URL]https://twitter.com/vesti_kpss/statuses/478926313831792640[/URL] [img]http://i.imgur.com/f8UnVUS.png[/img] [quote]An airliner with innocent european tourists will soon be shot down over Ukraine. It will be used as a pretext for NATO involvement.[/quote] holy fucking shit, this was posted exactly one month ago
So many people dead. Because some fucking retarded rebels in their petty little fight. Fuck. I hope these people get rounded up and imprisoned for their entire life. Seriously. Shooting a CIVILIAN plane down. What the actaul fuck is wrong with them, HOW can you expect ANYONE to support you if they have a right mind once you have done that.
[QUOTE=Sokrates;45421968][URL]https://twitter.com/vesti_kpss/statuses/478926313831792640[/URL] holy fucking shit, this was posted exactly one month ago[/QUOTE] :tinfoil:
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;45421949]Who exactly is being shot at?[/QUOTE] Not really being shot at. More like executed.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;45421990]good job translating, i'm sure that more than myself are happy you took the time to do so.[/QUOTE] It's alright, man. Sharing information is the only way to get the full picture. We still don't know if the record is genuine, though.
[QUOTE=Sokrates;45421968][URL]https://twitter.com/vesti_kpss/statuses/478926313831792640[/URL] [img]http://i.imgur.com/f8UnVUS.png[/img] holy fucking shit, this was posted exactly one month ago[/QUOTE] Ehm, what are we looking at? Who's saying this. Who is he
[QUOTE=Sokrates;45421968][URL]https://twitter.com/vesti_kpss/statuses/478926313831792640[/URL] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/f8UnVUS.png[/IMG] holy fucking shit, this was posted exactly one month ago[/QUOTE] You do realize people make baseless predictions all the time? The fact that one is right means nothing because it's based off of nothing. Just a shot in the dark.
This is what we've even waiting for, this it boys, this is war!
[QUOTE=Pr0fane;45422017]Ehm, what are we looking at? Who's saying this. Who is he[/QUOTE] He's probably no one. His twitter handle is "KPSS News" and he's speaking cryptic as fuck in responses.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;45422024]You do realize people make baseless predictions all the time? The fact that that one is right means nothing because it's based off of nothing. Just a shot in the dark.[/QUOTE] It's like saying in a Gun control thread that Obama's going to get attacked and then someone in Texas sends ricin. If he said, on July 17th 2014 then it would be weird but there are millions of people to make baseless predictions/statements on twitter everyday. And if it was a false flag why would they ignore a leak like that?
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;45421782]I believe he's talking about the Polish PM shoot down where a video came out a year afterwards showing a bunch of people getting killed after a plane crash. After the video came out, the guy was hunted down and got the shit beaten out of him by a group of unknown thugs, who later came by and attempted to kill him in the hospital.[/QUOTE] Wasn't that story proven to be made up? One way or another, our media never picked up on it and there were conspiracy theories everywhere at that time. I personally do not think Russia did it as they had no apparent reason to, politicians who died were no threat to Russia and the president was at the end of his tenure with slim chance of re-election. It is weird how we never get the plane remains back, though.
[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;45421903]Simon otrovskey is on cnn reporting[/QUOTE] Aww, I missed that glorious butt-chin?
[QUOTE=Thlis;45422036]It's like saying in a Gun control thread that Obama's going to get attacked and then someone in Texas sends ricin.[/QUOTE] Not saying its credible or preinformed but this is a little more specific and detailed than that
So now they are literally terrorists attacking civillian planes for fun?
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;45422031]This is what we've even waiting for, this it boys, this is war![/QUOTE] You're an idiot
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;45422037][IMG]http://puu.sh/afRR6/71d43ef544.jpg[/IMG] not saying this means anything at all but it's one hell of a coincidence[/QUOTE] There's so many crazies on the internet making wild, vague and unlikely predictions that one of them is bound to get a hit some time. It's a coincidence, nothing more. You don't post stuff like that if you know about it because it shows your involvement with the event, otherwise you're going to get yourself thrown in a holding cell and questioned.
[QUOTE=Natrox;45422059]You're an idiot[/QUOTE]You realize its from a song though, right?
[QUOTE=dum6azz;45420680]Recording of separatists phone/radio talk. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5E8kDo2n6g[/media] In few words, they said they shot and went investigate. It was surprise for them, that it was civilian.[/QUOTE] I tried my best to translate this transcript. I'm neither Russian, nor Ukrainian so excuse any mistakes if you are. The gist of it should be mostly correct. The audio sounds genuine, but then again who knows. Bes: Group <Miner> just downed a plane over the village of Enakievo Geranin: Where are the pilots? [I](I assume he means group Miner)[/I] Bes: They went to look for and photograph the wreckage. It's smoking. Geranin: When did this happen? Bes: Around half an hour ago. --------- Greek: Yes, Major. Major: So, it was the Chernohinkie group that did it. Those Cossacks there at their post. The plane disintegrated in mid-air in the area of the Petropavlovka Mine. They've found the 200th corpse. Civilian. Greek: So, what do you have there? Major: We're certain it was civilians only. Greek: Are there a lot of people there? Major: Fuck.. The debris was falling in people's yards. Greek: What kind of plane? Major: I still don't know - I still haven't reached the main crashsite, only where the first bodies have fallen. There are remains of seats and people there. Greek: Ok, any weapons? Major: Not at all. Civilian items - medical supplies, towels, toilet paper. Greek: Any documents? Major: Yes. There's one of an Indonesian Student from the Thompson University. --------- Kozitzin: The plane that was shot down in the Snezhogo - Tozera. It turned out it was a passenger plane. It fell in the Grabovo area - there's a sea of corpses there, women and children. Right now the Cossacks are looking it over. Soldier: They said it was an An-26 on the TV - Ukrainian, transport, but they say it had "Malaysian Airlines" written on it! What was it doing over Ukraine? Kozitzin: So they were bringing in spies. [I](They talk over each other)[/I]. There is a war going on!
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;45422037][IMG]http://puu.sh/afRR6/71d43ef544.jpg[/IMG] not saying this means anything at all but it's one hell of a coincidence[/QUOTE] "Their idiocy is a distraction, and nothing more." - in response to a comment about Murdoch. "A culprit, a separatist and agent of Putin, will be found instantly". Before that, they were talking about a plane crash with an empty/non-existant plane. This is bullshit, people.
Oh fuck me, I'm late. Oh well.
Also turns out that guy might be a rebel. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/N3x1PmJ.png[/IMG]
So whatever social outlet said it was a Ukrainian transport that got shot down, not an airliner, apparently deleted the post by now according to Fox's coverage.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;45422037][IMG]http://puu.sh/afRR6/71d43ef544.jpg[/IMG] not saying this means anything at all but it's one hell of a coincidence[/QUOTE] Monkeys and typewriters. And watch NATO not get involved.
[QUOTE=Stopper;45422084]I tried my best to translate this transcript. I'm neither Russian, nor Ukrainian so excuse any mistakes if you are. The gist of it should be mostly correct. The audio sounds genuine, but then again who knows. Bes: Group <Miner> just downed a plane over the village of Enakievo Geranin: Where are the pilots? [I](I assume he means group Miner)[/I] Bes: They went to look for and photograph the wreckage. It's smoking. Geranin: When did this happen? Bes: Around half an hour ago. --------- Greek: Yes, Major. Major: So, it was the Chernohinkie group that did it. Those Cossacks there at their post. The plane disintegrated in mid-air in the area of the Petropavlovka Mine. They've found the 200th corpse. Civilian. Greek: So, what do you have there? Major: We're certain it was civilians only. Greek: Are there a lot of people there? Major: Fuck.. The debris was falling in people's yards. Greek: What kind of plane? Major: I still don't know - I still haven't reached the main crashsite, only where the first bodies have fallen. There are remains of seats and people there. Greek: Ok, any weapons? Major: Not at all. Civilian items - medical supplies, towels, toilet paper. Greek: Any documents? Major: Yes. There's one of an Indonesian Student from the Thompson University. --------- Kozitzin: The plane that was shot down in the Snezhogo - Tozera. It turned out it was a passenger plane. It fell in the Grabovo area - there's a sea of corpses there, women and children. Right now the Cossacks are looking it over. Soldier: They said it was an An-26 on the TV - Ukrainian, transport, but they say it had "Malaysian Airlines" written on it! What was it doing over Ukraine? Kozitzin: So they were bringing in spies. [I](They talk over each other)[/I]. There is a war going on![/QUOTE] Wait, so it wasn't the separatists that shot it down, but russian troops? Cossacks aren't smart enough to use AA emplacements, also you'd need someone on a radar giving coordinates. This is suspicious
[QUOTE=RikohZX;45422103]So whatever social outlet said it was a Ukrainian transport that got shot down, not an airliner, apparently deleted the post by now according to Fox's coverage.[/QUOTE] That happened quite some time ago, people in charge of the Strelkov_info group are claiming that it wasn't official news and that they just followed rumors in group discussion. Apparently, official news from Strelkov himself (leader of DNR, I presume) are marked with a STRELKOV SAYS image at the bottom.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;45422110]Monkeys and typewriters. And watch NATO not get involved.[/QUOTE] Yeah, why would NATO get involved over a culture war between two ex-soviet countries.
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