Germany: Syrian refugees rescue neo-Nazi leader Stefan Jagsch from wreckage of car crash - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;49990281]Gold star for you for being such a thoughtful and kind-hearted person, I'm going to cry. Does the US want to take them all off us or something, because I'm not sure of your point other than to insinuate that I'm in some way xenophobic to a people that are literally destroying our continent before our eyes. Migrants and refugees are different but we can't have one without the other now that fuck it everybody has decided to pack their shit and move up to good ol' Europe. IMO we shouldn't even take anybody anymore, but that's probably just me! Enough is enough, the amount of violent things people are saying in celebration of the Brussels attacks on the internet is sickening and in anger and defensiveness I couldn't give a fuck about anybody other than my family (Europeans). I care about Europeans more than Syrians, sorry. The cultural differences are too great en masse, that's not saying the odd one or two people wouldn't assimilate but as a whole it's just [B]not[/B] happening. I predict a shitstorm coming with this anyway, but apparently I'm a massive trigger to the softies on here.[/QUOTE] Alright, but just because you can't have one without the other doesn't mean you've got to be angry at the refugees for being put into a situation where they have to leave their homes and seek asylum in far away places. They're not the sole masterminds of an organize effort to dismantle Western society so there's no reason to be so angry at them as a whole. If you need someone to blame for the issues Europe faces today there's plenty other people who are doing far more meaningful work to fuck your union up. I'm not a bleeding heart btw you definitely shouldn't think I am.

Sure didn't take this thread long to turn to shit. I'm reminded of that recent article about the Jewish guy who saved a KKK protester's life. Funny how nobody came in to that one and accused the article of just trying to make Jews "look good."

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49990419]Sure didn't take this thread long to turn to shit. I'm reminded of that recent article about the Jewish guy who saved a KKK protester's life. Funny how nobody came in to that one and accused the article of just trying to make Jews "look good."[/QUOTE] Refugees could save Europe from imminent destruction, Facepunch would still find a way to attack the refugees for doing so.

Now the refugees are helping neo-Nazis?? Deport them immediately

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49990419]Sure didn't take this thread long to turn to shit. I'm reminded of that recent article about the Jewish guy who saved a KKK protester's life. Funny how nobody came in to that one and accused the article of just trying to make Jews "look good."[/QUOTE] Its because anyone who isn't retarded knows that Muslims are capable of good acts. Everyone (I assume) gets that. Neocon alert: [QUOTE]We will shortly move to the next phase, which is to find a good news story amid the rubble. Anything will do, but best of all is a Muslim good news story. After Paris it was swiftly reported that one of the suicide bombers at Stade de France had been turned away by a brave Muslim security guard. The story whizzed around the world before anyone could check whether it was true. It wasn’t. But people needed it to be. Not because Muslims don’t do good deeds, but because in the wake of any Islamist terrorist attack people need people opposed to the bombers to be Muslim and the bombers themselves not to be Muslim. Then the good Muslim can represent Islam while the bad Muslims can be said to have nothing to do with it.[/QUOTE] [url]http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/a-terrorist-attack-has-happened-in-europe-let-the-standard-response-begin/[/url] This is what always happens after a terrorist attack and people are tiring of it at this point, and people recognise the reason for the story pushed is to put forward a narrative that they no longer believe in. [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] This is the 'good news' story that everyone who wants to stick their fingers in their ears over Islamic terrorism needs in order to distract themselves. [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] Oh wow, someone already posted this article.

Why are people ranting on about refugees? European Muslims born and raised committed these attacks (same as almost every single Euro Islamic terror attack), not foreign refugees. I get the notion that we can't just brush aside there's a serious radical Islamic problem but really? This would have been posted regardless of the attacks.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;49990281]I'm a massive trigger to the softies on here. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitposting" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight][/QUOTE] bear in fucking mind that last time you did this cypher, you posted that you were almost in tears because of everyone shredding you for your opinions so when you call others softies, keep in mind that you were totally fucking incapable of taking the fire for your pretty shit opinions, and also fell to bits in the refugee camp about BDA when you got banned for it [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=FlashMarsh;49990697]Its because anyone who isn't retarded knows that Muslims are capable of good acts. Everyone (I assume) gets that. Neocon alert: [URL]http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/a-terrorist-attack-has-happened-in-europe-let-the-standard-response-begin/[/URL] This is what always happens after a terrorist attack and people are tiring of it at this point, and people recognise the reason for the story pushed is to put forward a narrative that they no longer believe in. [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] This is the 'good news' story that everyone who wants to stick their fingers in their ears over Islamic terrorism needs in order to distract themselves. [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] Oh wow, someone already posted this article.[/QUOTE] this is literally a nothing position every time a 'feel good' article like this (as you call them) gets posted, you call it propaganda ANYWAY i assume you would rather this news didn't get reported presumably?

This is fake and Jewish propaganda.

also, posting a blog post from douglas murray, a man who [I]actually blames the left wing for creating Trump [/I][URL]http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/the-stop-the-war-coalition-is-a-meeting-point-for-hardline-stalinists-and-islamists/[/URL] look at this shit lmao

The "narrative," that you're claiming to be tired of is that Muslims are actually human beings just like anybody else, and not cartoon villains who continuously look for ways to destroy Europe. Nobody is condoning or handwaving Islamic extremism here. That's just as disingenuous an argument as saying that anybody critical of the way that this refugee crisis has been handled is a racist. We simply don't subscribe to the belligerence and ignorance and fear that doofs like the writer of that article you quoted expect us to swallow and fools like Trump tout to gain political points with the angry and uninformed. Muslims are not the enemy. Islamic extremism is. Furthermore, you are criticizing the world for not using this tragedy to promote the exact response that extremists commit these acts to incite: further fear and distrust and outrage and an increased sense of opposition from and towards Muslims as a whole. I just can't agree with that. The best response to thuggery of the sort we saw in Brussels is simple: [I]the people who did this are proper cunts, but life goes on.[/I]

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;49990697] This is the 'good news' story that [b]everyone[/b] who wants to stick their fingers in their ears over Islamic terrorism needs in order to distract themselves. [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] Oh wow, someone already posted this article.[/QUOTE] Yeeeee all those sheepul dont see the truth. bla bla bla brainwashed.... liberal media ... the left bla bla You (and others) appear to be presenting a false dichotomy. (that being you are either pro refugee + weak vs terror or you are against refugee + strong vs terror.) You can be against terrorism and still be supportive of accepting and helping refugees. The refugees are fleeing terror, not coming here to propagate it. Stopping refugees coming in won't stop terrorism so don't use terrorism as an argument for opposing refugees. [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Cloak Raider;49990812]also, posting a blog post from douglas murray, a man who [I]actually blames the left wing for creating Trump [/I][URL]http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/the-stop-the-war-coalition-is-a-meeting-point-for-hardline-stalinists-and-islamists/[/URL] look at this shit lmao[/QUOTE] Rather not give them ad revenue from clicking... So I looked at the title. [quote=insane article]hardline stalinists and islamists[/quote] ok.jpg Who reads this and unironically thinks "yeh we're the only ones who aren't brainwashed, this is definitely an objective media piece"

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;49990868]Yeeeee all those sheepul dont see the truth. bla bla bla brainwashed.... liberal media ... the left bla bla You (and others) appear to be presenting a false dichotomy. (that being you are either pro refugee + weak vs terror or you are against refugee + strong vs terror.) You can be against terrorism and still be supportive of accepting and helping refugees. The refugees are fleeing terror, not coming here to propagate it. Stopping refugees coming in won't stop terrorism so don't use terrorism as an argument for opposing refugees. [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] Rather not give them ad revenue from clicking... So I looked at the title. ok.jpg Who reads this and unironically thinks "yeh we're the only ones who aren't brainwashed, this is definitely an objective media piece"[/QUOTE] if you ever get bored and need to kill some braincells, play a drinking game where you do a shot every time douglas murray vilifies the "leftists", Islam, qualifies that he isn't a racist or brings up tabloid dumpster topics like clarkson you'll be dead before you hit the second page

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;49990914]if you ever get bored and need to kill some braincells, play a drinking game where you do a shot every time douglas murray vilifies the "leftists", Islam, qualifies that he isn't a racist or brings up tabloid dumpster topics like clarkson you'll be dead before you hit the second page[/QUOTE] I think I could kill enough braincells listening to/reading this guy. How could anybody be so damn stupid?

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;49990868]words[/QUOTE] I mean 'everyone' by 'everyone who wants to sick their fingers in their ears', not everyone as in 'the sheeple'. I agree you can be against terrorism and still be supportive of accepting and helping refugees (and I somewhat agree, given that our problems don't come from the current refugees but from 2nd or 3rd generation Muslim immigrants), I just think that this article is used to push said narrative. As for your second point, do you know anything about Stop the War? Its only a BIT extreme in its description of one of the most disgusting and vile organisations in British politics. I can't be bothered to restate what I've said about them in the past, but they are abhorrent and should be disowned by anyone serious in British politics, and the fact that any Labour party MP is involved with such an organisation is shameful. These are some of the articles they deleted to try and protect Corbyn, to give you a taste of their views. I don't know why he uses 'Stalinist' to describe them (seems to be a buzzword to me) but 'Putinist' would be spot on. [IMG]https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-12/11/10/enhanced/webdr01/enhanced-6198-1449849050-13.png?no-auto[/IMG] [IMG]https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-12/11/9/enhanced/webdr06/enhanced-10994-1449845966-1.png?no-auto[/IMG] I think Douglas Murray is shrill and over-the-top regarding Islam. But given that the change from only going about platitudes on 'the religion of peace' has only occurred very recently, I'm not sure I blame him. Either way, he speaks very well (even if you disagree): [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dBzslDdQ_g[/url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoN1fhEMhvU[/url] [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] For the record, I don't think there is anything wrong with this story. I also think that the migrants and terror are mostly unrelated. But I sort of roll my eyes when I see it promoted immediately following a terrorist attack.

[QUOTE=jonoPorter;49985939]That's a very sensationalist title don't you think?[/QUOTE] it's the exact description of what happened, what on earth is sensationalist about it????

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;49990281] I care about Europeans more than Syrians, sorry. The cultural differences are too great en masse[/QUOTE] Ok, how many syrians do you know personally.