• George Zimmerman boxing celebrities for charity
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[QUOTE='[sluggo];43753108']If someone follows me my first reaction is to sucker punch them, straddle them and slam their head into the concrete over and over again.[/QUOTE] Then break the rules of a charity boxing match, beat the shit out of them, and defecate on their body because they are such a horrible person for following you. [QUOTE=avincent;43752845]Please do give us, as an obvious witness to the incident, a play by play of exactly what happened![/QUOTE] A calling for people to use logic is rated as "dumb". The fuck is wrong with this community?
[QUOTE=Swiket;43753031]Looks like DMX really wants in on this. [url]http://www.hiphopdx.com/m/index.php?s=news&id=27325[/url][/QUOTE] What a turd.
[QUOTE=Sableye;43744745]opening move: glock 17 to the face[/QUOTE] Hey you there, what if I told you he didn't even have a glock. He used a Keltec PF9, at least get the shit right before making a shitpost.
[QUOTE=Ramirez77;43753280] The fuck is wrong with this community?[/QUOTE] The gratuitous and ugly hero worship of a guy who was put in a bad situation and had to kill a teenager in self defense.
The fact that this dangerous asshole has become a celebrity is the sickest fucking thing. As much as I would love to see him get 1-hit KO'd this entire affair is just legitimizing him and sending a message to all the other men with guns out there who go around looking for trouble because they think they're crime fighters.
[QUOTE=Swiket;43753031]Looks like DMX really wants in on this. [url]http://www.hiphopdx.com/m/index.php?s=news&id=27325[/url][/QUOTE] X is going to give it to him
How about nobody gets in on it and we let him fade into obscurity and alcoholism instead of rewarding him for his vigilantism?
[QUOTE=Swiket;43744154]Reminds me of when Uwe Boll offered to box his critics a few years ago, and it turned out that he was a really good boxer and instantly knocked out the creator of SomethingAwful :v:[/QUOTE] At least Lowtax got to beat up Eric Baum and bang his mom.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43753482]The fact that this dangerous asshole has become a celebrity is the sickest fucking thing. As much as I would love to see him get 1-hit KO'd this entire affair is just legitimizing him and sending a message to all the other men with guns out there who go around looking for trouble because they think they're crime fighters.[/QUOTE] The damage has already been done to be honest.
[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;43753632]The damage has already been done to be honest.[/QUOTE] No, a certain portion of the media has made him into a hero even though, [i]at best[/i], he's just a dangerous vigilante with bad decision making skills (at worst he's a murderer). Keeping him in the spotlight is telling every other person out there with the same vigilante mentality that their dangerous, trouble-seeking behavior will be rewarded, as well. It tells people that all you have to do is prowl around the dark streets at night with a loaded gun and, when you see someone suspicious, you'll be in the right when to decide to take the law into your own hands. If you get lucky you'll get to shoot somebody and you'll be made a hero and you'll be allowed to sell your shitty photoshopped paintings for inordinate amounts of money, just like him.
[QUOTE=Ramirez77;43753280]A calling for people to use logic is rated as "dumb".[/QUOTE] Because people who say that shit act the same way. Both sides of this argument are really fucking dumb, btw.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43753482]The fact that this dangerous asshole has become a celebrity is the sickest fucking thing.[/QUOTE] Its a bit silly but I don't think killing somebody in self defense makes you a dangerous asshole.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43753863]Its a bit silly but I don't think killing somebody in self defense makes you a dangerous asshole.[/QUOTE] Stalking strangers on public sidewalks with a loaded gun and confronting them because you vaguely suspect they might be a criminal is something a dangerous asshole does. You should be allowed to do that if you're a cop. You shouldn't be allowed to do that without any consequences if you're just some random guy. That is vigilantiism and society should not endorse or reward that kind of behavior.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43753903]You shouldn't be allowed to do that without any consequences if you're just some random guy. That is vigilantiism and society should not endorse or reward that kind of behavior.[/QUOTE] Thats a difference in values. Those kids who hunted down that child molester and the Mexican people fighting the cartels show that it can do alot of good. We can't really know but it seems like Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, smashing his head against the pavement.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43753946]Thats a difference in values. Those kids who hunted down that child molester and the Mexican people fighting the cartels show that it can do alot of good.[/QUOTE] Just because vigilantiism sometimes works out for the better doesn't mean that we should consider it generally OK. Don't forget that the largest vigilante organization in the history of the US was the KKK, who were responsible for countless lynchings over the course of decades.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43753981]Just because vigilantiism sometimes works out for the better doesn't mean that we should consider it generally OK. Don't forget that the largest vigilante organization in the history of the US was the KKK, who were responsible for countless lynchings over the course of decades.[/QUOTE] What about Batman?
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43753946]We can't really know but it seems like Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, smashing his head against the pavement.[/QUOTE] If we don't know then why are you so goddamn eager to defend him? I'm attacking him because [i]it's a fact[/i] that he chose to leave the safety of his home and then his vehicle to pursue someone and that is stupid, trouble-seeking behavior. What happened after that can't retroactively validate his previous decisions.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43753903]Stalking strangers on public sidewalks with a loaded gun and confronting them because you vaguely suspect they might be a criminal is something a dangerous asshole does. You should be allowed to do that if you're a cop. You shouldn't be allowed to do that without any consequences if you're just some random guy. That is vigilantiism and society should not endorse or reward that kind of behavior.[/QUOTE] Calling all supercops! I love being able to call 911 and a man of the law can be at my side in a time of need in just seconds!! You know what else dangerous assholes do? Pick fights with people cause they're trying to prove they're a hardass. Wanna know what happens to dangerous assholes like this? One day, ONE DAY, they are going to come across someone who will not take their shit and allow themselves to be subjected to this criminal intimidation by little wannabe thugs who think they're hard and get themselves killed.
[QUOTE=avincent;43754035]Calling all supercops! I love being able to call 911 and a man of the law can be at my side in a time of need in just seconds!! You know what else dangerous assholes do? Pick fights with people cause they're trying to prove they're a hardass. Wanna know what happens to dangerous assholes like this? One day, ONE DAY, they are going to come across someone who will not take their shit and allow themselves to be subjected to this criminal intimidation by little wannabe thugs who think they're hard and get themselves killed.[/QUOTE] "Please do give us, as an obvious witness to the incident, a play by play of exactly what happened!"
[QUOTE=avincent;43754035]Calling all supercops! I love being able to call 911 and a man of the law can be at my side in a time of need in just seconds!! [/QUOTE] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States]A society where men with guns are allowed to take the law into their own hands whenever they want to[/url] is far more dangerous than however dangerous you think America is today. (spoiler: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#Homicide]less dangerous than it has been in a long time[/url])
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43754002]If we don't know then why are you so goddamn eager to defend him? I'm attacking him because [i]it's a fact[/i] that he chose to leave the safety of his home and then his vehicle to pursue someone and that is stupid, trouble-seeking behavior. What happened after that can't retroactively validate his previous decisions.[/QUOTE] Of course, it's completely legal to kill a man that's tracking you because you're suspicious.
[QUOTE=joost1120;43754094]Of course, it's completely legal to kill a man that's tracking you because you're suspicious.[/QUOTE] Maybe you should read my arguments a second time? If you had read them properly the first time you'd know why this rebuttal of yours is awful.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;43754068]"Please do give us, as an obvious witness to the incident, a play by play of exactly what happened!"[/QUOTE] Trayvon's girlfriend on the phone that testified in court said he told her something along the lines of "There's a creepy ass cracka following me". Now let's do some basic logical thinking. Fat mexican man on his phone, starts to follow you. In order for someone to be following you you have to be moving away from them (basic logic). The only way for Trayvon to have attacked G.Z. is for him to do a complete 180 degree turn(basic logic) and move towards Zimmerman. I don't know about you but if TM would have just kept moving in the direction he was going, maybe at a faster rate, he would've been able to outrun the overweight and out-of-shape Zimmerman. Now if Trayvon had known he had a gun there would have been a very small chance he would've commited to that 180 degree turn. (basic logic) He would have run. This all just goes to show he was trying to intimidate Zimmerman because he thought he was hot shit. Nice try though ;) [editline]2nd February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43754085][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States]A society where men with guns are allowed to take the law into their own hands whenever they want to[/url] is far more dangerous than however dangerous you think America is today. (spoiler: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#Homicide]less dangerous than it has been in a long time[/url])[/QUOTE] I never implied vigilantism was a good thing. [URL="http://gunowners.org/op0746.htm"]Seriously though, nice try.[/URL] [URL="http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32842.pdf"]I encourage you to read all about it[/URL]
[QUOTE=avincent;43754192]Trayvon's girlfriend on the phone that testified in court said he told her something along the lines of "There's a creepy ass cracka following me". Now let's do some basic logical thinking. Fat mexican man on his phone, starts to follow you. In order for someone to be following you you have to be moving away from them (basic logic). The only way for Trayvon to have attacked G.Z. is for him to do a complete 180 degree turn(basic logic) and move towards Zimmerman. I don't know about you but if TM would have just kept moving in the direction he was going, maybe at a faster rate, he would've been able to outrun the overweight and out-of-shape Zimmerman. Now if Trayvon had known he had a gun there would have been a very small chance he would've commited to that 180 degree turn. (basic logic) He would have run. This all just goes to show he was trying to intimidate Zimmerman because he thought he was hot shit. Nice try though ;) [editline]2nd February 2014[/editline] I never implied vigilantism was a good thing. [URL="http://gunowners.org/op0746.htm"]Seriously though, nice try.[/URL] [URL="http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32842.pdf"]I encourage you to read all about it[/URL][/QUOTE] Except Zimmerman was in a truck dummy
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;43754278]Except Zimmerman was in a truck dummy[/QUOTE] How did he get on the ground while inside of the truck?
[QUOTE=avincent;43754301]How did he get on the ground while inside of the truck?[/QUOTE] Cause he got out. There's no proof as to why or when that is and there's no "logical" deduction
[QUOTE=avincent;43754192]Trayvon's girlfriend on the phone that testified in court said he told her something along the lines of "There's a creepy ass cracka following me". Now let's do some basic logical thinking. Fat mexican man on his phone, starts to follow you. In order for someone to be following you you have to be moving away from them (basic logic). The only way for Trayvon to have attacked G.Z. is for him to do a complete 180 degree turn(basic logic) and move towards Zimmerman. I don't know about you but if TM would have just kept moving in the direction he was going, maybe at a faster rate, he would've been able to outrun the overweight and out-of-shape Zimmerman. Now if Trayvon had known he had a gun there would have been a very small chance he would've commited to that 180 degree turn. (basic logic) He would have run. This all just goes to show he was trying to intimidate Zimmerman because he thought he was hot shit. Nice try though ;) [editline]2nd February 2014[/editline] I never implied vigilantism was a good thing. [URL="http://gunowners.org/op0746.htm"]Seriously though, nice try.[/URL] [URL="http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32842.pdf"]I encourage you to read all about it[/URL][/QUOTE] It's time to do some detective work. Computer: Zoom in. Enhance. Zoom. Enhance. Right there, do you see it? This post misses the entire point.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;43754336]Cause he got out. There's no proof as to why or when that is and there's no "logical" deduction[/QUOTE] Wait just one fucking moment, we all know it is impossible to get out of trucks Nice try guy
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43753903]Stalking strangers on public sidewalks with a loaded gun and confronting them because you vaguely suspect they might be a criminal is something a dangerous asshole does. You should be allowed to do that if you're a cop. You shouldn't be allowed to do that without any consequences if you're just some random guy. That is vigilantiism and society should not endorse or reward that kind of behavior.[/QUOTE] He followed him (not stalked him, there's a massive fucking difference between stalking someone and following them. Stalking is obsessively following someone for long periods of time) for a minute then Trayvon approached him when he was walking back to his car, beat the shit out of him to near-death and Zimmerman, fearing for his life and unable to breathe, pulled his gun. That's all we know for sure, from witness accounts and forensic evidence. Zimmerman claims that Trayvon saw his gun fall out and attempted to take it and shoot him but Zimmerman beat him to it, but who knows how true that is.
This thread is just absolutely painful to read. Either the posts are overly against Zimmer, or overly against Trayvon. There is no middle ground and each side seems to be using odd logic on both ends. Then we have folks like ramirez which i just can't bring myself to read his posts because there's no intelligence to be found within them. Personally, on the actual topic of this thread, hope that Zimmer makes it for a few rounds or even win (he's going to get knocked out by SOMEONE). However, in all honestly, i actually wish he was not doing this. Zimmer needs to do his absolute best to fade into obscurity, he's a celebrity thanks to the american media blowing everything about the case out of proportion and turning a local unfortunate occurrence into a global tragedy.
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