Against Me! Singer Tom Gabel Comes Out As Transgender, Plans On Starting Hormone Treatments - Polidicks

[QUOTE=thisispain;35918893]well it used to.[/QUOTE] Hey don't do that, you're on my team!! [editline]11th May 2012[/editline] It's crazy this thread went from the he/she thing to evolution.

I would tap it if it didn't have a penis

[QUOTE=ITokez;35919030]I would tap it if it didn't have a penis[/QUOTE] Yes lets fucking call a transgender person an "it". Thats quite insulting.

Ehhhhhh I dunno about that, people regularly say "I'd hit it" or "I'd tap that" with no indication of gender yet not to cause offense.

[QUOTE=ITokez;35919030]I would tap it if it didn't have a penis[/QUOTE] I'd reply to that if it had a brain.

I don't even know how to reply to this thread properly. I can relate to the person feeling gender confused, however... Because I identify as a male, I believe I should be treated as such unless by those that I trust. Though I doubt anybody knows what I mean by this, so I'll just say it. I'm a natural born Tetragametic Chimera, of hermaphrodite classification.

[QUOTE=ITokez;35919030]I would tap it if it didn't have a penis[/QUOTE] "It"? Really?

[QUOTE=bunnyspy1;35921644]"It"? Really?[/QUOTE] Probably trying and failing to avoid conflict.

[QUOTE=Pal13;35918876] Platinum you're so intuitively and glaringly wrong. Natural selection doesn't focus on just one thing.[/QUOTE] I never said it did, are you making things up just so you have something to argue against? [quote]There have even been some studies that show homosexuality conveys an evolutionary benefit.[/quote] Hahahaha, like what? Extinction? [QUOTE=Zeriga;35921652]Probably trying and failing to avoid conflict.[/QUOTE] Everyone in this thread has gone so overboard with political correctness, they've thrown common sense out the window Apparently scientific research doesn't count as an argument if it might offend someone

[QUOTE=Platinumcs;35921677]I never said it did, are you making things up just so you have something to argue against? Hahahaha, like what? Extinction? Everyone in this thread has gone so overboard with political correctness, they've thrown common sense out the window Apparently scientific research doesn't count as an argument if it might offend someone[/QUOTE] 1) No Comment. 2) Well, it might result in less assholes in the world. 3)I'm sorry, common sense? I sincerely doubt it's continued existence.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;35920507]Ehhhhhh I dunno about that, people regularly say "I'd hit it" or "I'd tap that" with no indication of gender yet not to cause offense.[/QUOTE] Well, one could make the argument that there is offense there - though it may be not consciously intended - in that, when used in that context, they're objectifying the person as being simply a tool to have sex with. Some people get really uppity about that sort of thing, so the argument could be made. Basically, there's (potential for) offense there, but not the offense that is the focus of this thread's direction. :v:

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;35920507]Ehhhhhh I dunno about that, people regularly say "I'd hit it" or "I'd tap that" with no indication of gender yet not to cause offense.[/QUOTE] except he said "I'd tap it if it ---" not "I'd tap if it she ---" [editline]11th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Platinumcs;35921677] Everyone in this thread has gone so overboard with political correctness, they've thrown common sense out the window Apparently scientific research doesn't count as an argument if it might offend someone[/QUOTE] what does this have to do with referring to trans people as "it"

[QUOTE=Sanius;35922076]except he said "I'd tap it if it ---" not "I'd tap if it she ---"[/QUOTE] Yeah, okay, fair enough. The second "it" isn't really justifiable (or at least, is less justifiable than the first one - again, the argument can be made that the first "it", even in the context of the phrase's general usage, is unjustifiable due to objectifying of people).

[QUOTE=Sanius;35922076] what does this have to do with referring to trans people as "it"[/QUOTE] Because every comment someone makes that could be slightly offensive, is attacked by internet white knights like yourself. Like when you got all up in a huff over this: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/2mLAg.jpg[/IMG] Yes, it's literally called a penile inversion, because it's an [I]inverted penis[/I]. Calm down with the internet white knighting, I'm sure transgendered people have thick enough skin to take a joke just like anyone else.

[QUOTE=Platinumcs;35922324]I'm sure transgendered people have thick enough skin to take a joke just like anyone else.[/QUOTE] uh have you been reading any of the replies to your vitriol bullshit at all

[QUOTE=Sanius;35922357]uh have you been reading any of the replies to your vitriol bullshit at all[/QUOTE] Yet another quality post bro, keep it up. I don't consider Facepunch to be an accurate representation of the transgender community, at least the transgender people I know in real life aren't huge crybabies and don't find a way to be offended by every little thing

[QUOTE=Platinumcs;35922377]Yet another quality post bro, keep it up. I don't consider Facepunch to be an accurate representation of the transgender community, at least the transgender people I know in real life aren't huge crybabies and don't find a way to be offended by every little thing[/QUOTE] perhaps you should seek out friends who have self-respect

[QUOTE=Sanius;35922406]perhaps you should seek out friends who have self-respect[/QUOTE] Hold the fuck up. Just cause someone won't flip their shit over something that they probably have to deal with on a regular basis, they have no self respect?

[QUOTE=Sanius;35922406]perhaps you should seek out friends who have self-respect[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, Sanius, while I generally agree with you and your stances as a whole, and I agree with you and your stances in this thread, I think you're slowly slipping away here. I think you're letting the fact you dislike Platinumcs shroud your eyes from the fact you've strayed from arguing a point to just arguing for the sake of arguing. Maybe you should just let it be for now? I think pretty much everyone here will agree you ripped Plat a new asshole, and I don't think there's many people at all who still think Plat was in the right for the offensive things he said.

Going off on a tangent must be a meme in this thread.

[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35922415]Hold the fuck up. Just cause someone won't flip their shit over something that they probably have to deal with on a regular basis, they have no self respect?[/QUOTE] why would a trans person associate themselves with a transphobe unless they had no self-respect [editline]1[/editline] plat literally thinks GSMs are broken

I'm going to take my leave then, this will be my last comment. Good day sirs [B]Edit: TO QueenSasha and my friend T-Sonar.0, I apologised earlier in the thread for that particular comment so I hope you can forgive me Some of the more "offensive" posts I made were because I was trying to rustle Sanius' jimmies, not for any other reason[/B] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling" - Starpluck))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Platinumcs;35922324]Because every comment someone makes that could be slightly offensive, is attacked by internet white knights like yourself. Like when you got all up in a huff over this: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/2mLAg.jpg[/IMG] Yes, it's literally called a penile inversion, because it's an [I]inverted penis[/I]. Calm down with the internet white knighting, I'm sure transgendered people have thick enough skin to take a joke just like anyone else.[/QUOTE] You're right, We do have thick enough skin to take jokes. [b]What we don't have enough patience for 90% of guys like you who call us disgusting and then think it's ok to joke about us. It's not.[/b] Also stop shouting that everyone is going overboard with "political correctness" just because they expect you to treat us like human beings. It's not "political correctness", it's called basic respect.

[QUOTE=Sanius;35922459]why would a trans person associate themselves with a transphobe unless they had no self-respect[/QUOTE] Cause maybe they're thick skinned? I don't frankly give a fuck, I was just pointing out that frankly you were being a dick there. Why the fuck did I get rated winner? I don't give a fuck about the previous debate and frankly plat, if you're a transphobe then you can rot and die for all I care, I'm here cause that little bit about the friends without self respect was a dick move.

[QUOTE=Platinumcs;35922377]Yet another quality post bro, keep it up. I don't consider Facepunch to be an accurate representation of the transgender community, at least the transgender people I know in real life aren't huge crybabies and don't find a way to be offended by every little thing[/QUOTE] Congrats, I'm sure you know A TON of Trans people who don't mind the jokes and the slurs. That doesn't mean we all are accepting of that, so stop implying it. It's easy to say they're just jokes when it's not you being mocked for a very sensitive issue in their life.

In fact what exactly was the last debate, someone gimme it in bullet points so I can actually make an accurate judgement.

Actually we're thin skinned as the Estrogen thins the skin. :rimshot:

[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35922513]In fact what exactly was the last debate, someone gimme it in bullet points so I can actually make an accurate judgement.[/QUOTE] Sure. 1.) Platinumcs stated he believed that a person being transgendered should be something they share with their significant other early on in a relationship - especially before they have sex, because he would feel very uncomfortable learning that the person he had sex with used to be of the other sex (this is assuming a transsexual operation has occurred, obviously). 2.) Platinumcs tried to defend his discomfort (which I honestly believe is okay to feel, since I mean you can't really control what you feel, though I disagree with the details of his post) with various analogies, including one that was basically you eat ice cream that you thought was amazing but you learn that it was whipped up cat-shit. 3.) Facepunch, Sanius included, began to beat on Platinumcs for these posts (more the analogies than the discomfort, though there was some beating for that, too). 4.) Platinumcs tried to defend his position with arguments of sexual reproduction in evolution. 5.) thisispain, Facepunch, et. all beat up on Platinumcs for his misconstrued proposition of purpose vs function and evolution vs natural selection. Did I miss anything?

Well if you feel discomfort fair enough, it's difficult to change how you react to stuff like that, that's just the way it is. The analogies, those are just fucking outright poor, that's completely degrading and attacking them as such is completely legitimate. Fuck off with the whole evolution argument, I'm pretty sure as a species evolution has little to no bearing on what we can or should do. Fuck man entire countries could just disappear of the face of the earth and biologically we'd be completely fine. And it's way too early in the morning for a discussion on evolution :v:

[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;35922552] 5.) thisispain, Facepunch, et. all beat up on Platinumcs for his misconstrued proposition of purpose vs function and evolution vs natural selection.[/QUOTE] hey i gotta put those thousands of dollars in college education to use