Goldsmiths Students' Union diversity officer explains she cannot be racist or sexist because she is
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[QUOTE=Amiga OS;47723096][I]"LGBTQ+"[/I] Whats the plus for? I swear this initialism gets longer every time I see it.[/QUOTE]
no joke, for my introductory sociology course, our prof refers to it as "LBGTQQPIAAA"
[QUOTE=DeathDoom;47723599]no joke, for my introductory sociology course, our prof refers to it as "LBGTQQPIAAA"[/QUOTE]
Please, I need to see the breakdown of this....
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47723628]Please, I need to see the breakdown of this....[/QUOTE]
lesbian, bi, gay, trans, queer, questioning, pansexual, intersex, and the american automotive association
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;47723639]I can't get the greentext with "LGBTQGTA5" out of my head now.[/QUOTE]
I just refer to it as the Sexual Barbecue: LGBBQ
[quote]And therefore women of colour and minority genders cannot be racist or sexist because we do not stand to benefit from such a system.[/quote]
Someone tell this moron to open a dictionary. Or is that oppressing her?
i have a girl in my spanish class who says shit like this.
"i hate racist white people"
"what about racist black people"
"blacks cant be racist"
she also thinks people need to compensate for the years of systemic slavery and atone for their ancestors' sins
[QUOTE=chuck14;47723823]she also thinks people need to compensate for the years of systemic slavery and atone for their ancestors' sins[/QUOTE]
That's the thing, how can they prove your, or anyone's ancestors actually had a part in anything that bad shit happened in the past
[QUOTE=Charybdis;47723860]That's the thing, how can they prove your, or anyone's ancestors actually had a part in anything that bad shit happened in the past[/QUOTE]
cause we're white, silly.
[QUOTE=DeathDoom;47723599]no joke, for my introductory sociology course, our prof refers to it as "LBGTQQPIAAA"[/QUOTE]
Sounds like they gave up on life and started screaming in agony at the end there.
The best abbreviation is QUILTBAG, since it actually forms a word.
[QUOTE=Charybdis;47723860]That's the thing, how can they prove your, or anyone's ancestors actually had a part in anything that bad shit happened in the past[/QUOTE]
Plus, someone shouldn't be responsible for the sins of their parents or ancestors.
[QUOTE=Charybdis;47723860]That's the thing, how can they prove your, or anyone's ancestors actually had a part in anything that bad shit happened in the past[/QUOTE]
Mandatory DNA testing and some comparison with a historic record or two. DNA traces of a slaver? To the charity stores with you!
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;47723687]Someone tell this moron to open a dictionary. Or is that oppressing her?[/QUOTE]
Dictionary was invented by men, so probably yes
[QUOTE=DeathDoom;47723599]no joke, for my introductory sociology course, our prof refers to it as "LBGTQQPIAAA"[/QUOTE]
I sugest changing courses.
[QUOTE=chuck14;47723823]
she also thinks people need to compensate for the years of systemic slavery and atone for their ancestors' sins[/QUOTE]I hate people like that. Yeah it sucks about the past but I didn't do, just because people who did it shared same skin color as me does not make me guilty of shit.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47723931]I hate people like that. Yeah it sucks about the past but I didn't do, just because people who did it shared same skin color as me does not make me guilty of shit.[/QUOTE]
hell, i have ancestors that i know were slave owners, but i'm no slaver and it isn't like i could choose who my ancestors were.
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there is no difference between hating people who had slaver ancestors because of their ancestry, and hating people for being gay or for being black. you have just as much choice in the matter in all of those: none.
[QUOTE=Charybdis;47723860]That's the thing, how can they prove your, or anyone's ancestors actually had a part in anything that bad shit happened in the past[/QUOTE]
Why does it matter? Why should someone be held responsible for what someone done hundreds of years ago? Secondly, since when the fuck do we arrest and charge people for crimes they themselves did not commit?
[QUOTE=chuck14;47723823]she also thinks people need to compensate for the years of systemic slavery and atone for their ancestors' sins[/QUOTE]
Shit like this always makes me angry, because my ancestors were irish and polish, two peoples that are known for being horrifically oppressed, but as a result they were also white, and therefore all of their struggle is moot.
I've genuinely seen tumblrinas who think that Jews can't be oppressed because they're white. Think about it for a second.
[QUOTE=roman117;47723955]Shit like this always makes me angry, because my ancestors were irish and polish, two peoples that are known for being horrifically oppressed, but as a result they were also white, and therefore all of their struggle is moot.
I've genuinely seen tumblrinas who think that Jews can't be oppressed because they're white. Think about it for a second.[/QUOTE]
Should be renamed Hitlerinas
[QUOTE=roman117;47723955]Shit like this always makes me angry, because my ancestors were irish and polish, two peoples that are known for being horrifically oppressed, but as a result they were also white, and therefore all of their struggle is moot.
I've genuinely seen tumblrinas who think that Jews can't be oppressed because they're white. Think about it for a second.[/QUOTE]
It's because these type of people believe the only true definition of racism is "Power + Privilege". The people who use this as the definition of racism often use it as an excuse to ignore racism between racial and ethnic minorities or even if they do acknowledge racism between racial and ethnic minorities it's still somehow white people's fault and/or "it's not the same as white on POC racism. White on POC racism is much more harmful and devastating".
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;47723937]hell, i have ancestors that i know were slave owners, but i'm no slaver and it isn't like i could choose who my ancestors were.
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there is no difference between hating people who had slaver ancestors because of their ancestry, and hating people for being gay or for being black. you have just as much choice in the matter in all of those: none.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's why I don't understand why Germans have this nazi guilt. Yeah we get it there was Hitler and he did bad things, but it isn't any more so stop being so ass about it.
While I may look like a white man I actually identify as a Bangladeshi woman, they have no right to oppress me and keep me out!!!
[QUOTE=Last or First;47723891]Sounds like they gave up on life and started screaming in agony at the end there.
The best abbreviation is QUILTBAG, since it actually forms a word.
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What does it even stand for.
still never understood the whole "POC can't be racist because systemic power yadda yadda" argument. how can individuals (minus a few historical figures obviously) oppress an entire race? how is it even logical to bring the macro-level of argument down to the individual level in order to justify some bullshit statements/actions? i swear a lot of these people have a shit load of insecurities and it's manifesting itself in warped views about social justice
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;47723490]Just to make it less silly, she's referring to the sociological/academic context of racism/sexism instead of the dictionary/colloquial context that everyone else is referring to. She knows for sure that everyone uses the dictionary/colloquial context of the term though.[/QUOTE]
The sociological and Academic contexts use those terms in both forms, but they specifically outline whether it is a context of institutionalized or culturally accepted norms.
She's using it like a god damn politician.
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[QUOTE=Charybdis;47723860]That's the thing, how can they prove your, or anyone's ancestors actually had a part in anything that bad shit happened in the past[/QUOTE]
Actually, I can prove that my family roots are firmly planted in Abolitionist political action and never owned slaves.
One of my Aunts has been doing research into the family line for over 20 years and has found rough traces all the way back to being linked to William the Conqueror's Era.
Still you do not make the children pay for the sins of their Parents, thats fuck'd and wrong.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;47723687]Someone tell this moron to open a dictionary. Or is that oppressing her?[/QUOTE]
Naw naw, that's not oppression.
That's mansplaining.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;47723687]Someone tell this moron to open a dictionary. Or is that oppressing her?[/QUOTE]
Try to tell any social justice crackpot to look up the meaning of the word "racism" or "sexism" and they'll just say dictionary definitions of those words are void because the dictionaries are written by white men. Except when the definition actually serves them, they'll be more than happy to use it.
Also, chances are that if you bring up dictionary definitions they'll also link you this [URL="http://robothugscomic.tumblr.com/post/102407911970/new-comic-ive-had-this-one-sitting-in-my-to-do"]moronic Robot Hugs comic.[/URL] Whoever the artist behind these comics is draws like a fucking tool and has an even lesser grasp on how language works. You can't just arbitrarily come up with new meanings for words if it doesn't serve your agenda. Sure, language changes but it doesn't do that overnight.
If language worked the way these dolts think it should, there would be probably no such thing as a functioning society.
[QUOTE=ProtoMob;47724908]Try to tell any social justice crackpot to look up the meaning of the word "racism" or "sexism" and they'll just say dictionary definitions of those words are void because the dictionaries are written by white men. Except when the definition actually serves them, they'll be more than happy to use it.
Also, chances are that if you bring up dictionary definitions they'll also link you this [URL="http://robothugscomic.tumblr.com/post/102407911970/new-comic-ive-had-this-one-sitting-in-my-to-do"]moronic Robot Hugs comic.[/URL] Whoever the artist behind these comics is draws like a fucking tool and has an even lesser grasp on how language works. You can't just arbitrarily come up with new meanings for words if it doesn't serve your agenda. Sure, language changes but it doesn't do that overnight.
If language worked the way these dolts think it should, there would be probably no such thing as a functioning society.[/QUOTE]
I think that comic just triggered ne.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;47724522]What does it even stand for.[/QUOTE]
Queer, Undecided, Intersex, Lesbian, Trans, Bi, Asexual, Gay.
But more so it stands for "At least you can actually remember this one."
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[QUOTE=ProtoMob;47724908]Try to tell any social justice crackpot to look up the meaning of the word "racism" or "sexism" and they'll just say dictionary definitions of those words are void because the dictionaries are written by white men. Except when the definition actually serves them, they'll be more than happy to use it.
Also, chances are that if you bring up dictionary definitions they'll also link you this [URL="http://robothugscomic.tumblr.com/post/102407911970/new-comic-ive-had-this-one-sitting-in-my-to-do"]moronic Robot Hugs comic.[/URL] Whoever the artist behind these comics is draws like a fucking tool and has an even lesser grasp on how language works. You can't just arbitrarily come up with new meanings for words if it doesn't serve your agenda. Sure, language changes but it doesn't do that overnight.
If language worked the way these dolts think it should, there would be probably no such thing as a functioning society.[/QUOTE]
"See, dictionaries don't mean anything. People just write them for fun. It's not like people have jobs maintaining dictionaries to keep them up to date and accurate.
The ACTUAL meaning of 'cat' is a liquid. 'Dolphin' is a type of tomato. 'Fun' doesn't exist. 'Skittles' is an oppressive term."
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;47723148]i seriously thought the Q stood for queer which was supposed to be reclaimed as a sort of catchall for anyone who wasn't quite in the LGBT area[/QUOTE]
Nowadays it stands more for 'Questioning', which was suppose to be a catch-all, but people sometimes add more onto the acronym. Most people usually say one of the three though: LGBT, LGBTQ, LGBTQA.
[QUOTE=Last or First;47724964]
The ACTUAL meaning of 'cat' is a liquid. 'Dolphin' is a type of tomato. 'Fun' doesn't exist. 'Skittles' is an oppressive term."[/QUOTE]
Whoa now, we don't tolerate calling people the S word around here.
[QUOTE=ProtoMob;47724908]Try to tell any social justice crackpot to look up the meaning of the word "racism" or "sexism" and they'll just say dictionary definitions of those words are void because the dictionaries are written by white men. Except when the definition actually serves them, they'll be more than happy to use it.
Also, chances are that if you bring up dictionary definitions they'll also link you this [URL="http://robothugscomic.tumblr.com/post/102407911970/new-comic-ive-had-this-one-sitting-in-my-to-do"]moronic Robot Hugs comic.[/URL] Whoever the artist behind these comics is draws like a fucking tool and has an even lesser grasp on how language works. You can't just arbitrarily come up with new meanings for words if it doesn't serve your agenda. Sure, language changes but it doesn't do that overnight.
If language worked the way these dolts think it should, there would be probably no such thing as a functioning society.[/QUOTE]
Comic's 100% factually correct, as well as 100% missing the point.
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