Man fires pepper spray on Westboro protesters outside Marine's funeral - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Bllasae;24452481]I'm not advocating anything. If you weren't stupid, you'd realize it was a slight joke, or dark humor of some sort.[/QUOTE] Where was the punchline? :colbert:

what the fuck does protesting a funeral accomplish, I swear the fucking god, it's more or less one of the most pointless things to do while inflicting stress and emotional damage to the people in the funeral. you guys are pussies, if you can't protest war or high ranking officials unless they're in the funeral, you don't deserve to protest. we protested lingle on her shit, like her zealotry against gay marriage, we got signs, stood infront of city hall, protested, and was heard. you'll never us see protesting her in her own son's funeral. christ, if you guys want your freedom of speech so much, let me scream 'FIRE' in a movie theater, it's a constitutional right, right?

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24453641]christ, if you guys want your freedom of speech so much, let me scream 'FIRE' in a movie theater, it's a constitutional right, right?[/QUOTE] There's a line between a protest and an action like this which is both dangerous and slices into tax money and the money of a private business.

[QUOTE=Billiam;24453729]There's a line between a protest and an action like this which is both dangerous and slices into tax money and the money of a private business.[/QUOTE] freedom of speech, what's the point of calling it freedom when i can't yell that out loud. as well, i should be able to wear a KKK robe while calling everyone the 'N' word in the next African American pride convention without getting punched or facing consequences. and lol, some of the funerals aren't free either, you pay for them as well, it's dangerous because you're literally telling a father who lost his son, his boy will be burning in hell, that's dangerous.

[QUOTE=Billiam;24453729]There's a line between a protest and an action like this which is both dangerous and slices into tax money and the money of a private business.[/QUOTE] You'd think the feelings of grieving families would matter more than the money of a multi-million dollar company anyway

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24453789] as well, i should be able to wear a KKK robe while calling everyone the 'N' word in the next African American pride convention without getting punched or facing consequences. [/quote] You can do this. If anyone punches you it's assault. But there would be no consequences for you.

You have the right to free speech in this country, not the right to harass others. Trolling isn't a right. They need to be shot. I don't give a flying fuck.

[QUOTE=booster;24434932]Pepper spray won't stop them, get something worse. Like bees.[/QUOTE] Bees with little cans of pepper spray on them.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;24453845]You can do this. If anyone punches you it's assault. But there would be no consequences for you.[/QUOTE] the point of that is to use something called, 'common sense', two words that overrides anything because if you lack them, you suck. by common sense, you don't go wearing a robe that signifies lynching and using words of hate, into an african american pride convention where there'll be hundreds of them, without expecting to get your ass kicked.

[QUOTE=Metzgemeist;24453859]You have the right to free speech in this country, not the right to harass others.[/QUOTE] they're not harassing anyone [QUOTE=Metzgemeist;24453859]They need to be shot. I don't give a flying fuck.[/QUOTE] you're a fucking fascist

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24453789]freedom of speech, what's the point of calling it freedom when i can't yell that out loud.[/QUOTE] I don't think you understand how liberties work. Do as you please, so long as you aren't infringing on another's rights. A free society can't really work any other way. [QUOTE=lolwutdude;24453789]as well, i should be able to wear a KKK robe while calling everyone the 'N' word in the next African American pride convention without getting punched or facing consequences.[/QUOTE] You're welcomed to do that too. I'd rather you don't, however. [QUOTE=lolwutdude;24453789]and lol, some of the funerals aren't free either, you pay for them as well, it's dangerous because you're literally telling a father who lost his son, his boy will be burning in hell, that's dangerous.[/QUOTE] The funeral can still proceed with a protest going on outside of it, however most events have to stop with the threat of an uncontrolled fire going around. And please elaborate how it's dangerous.

[QUOTE=JDK721;24453885]they're not harassing anyone you're a fucking fascist[/QUOTE] ha·rass   [huh-ras, har-uhs] Show IPA –verb (used with object) 1. to disturb persistently; torment, as with troubles or cares; bother continually; pester; persecute. 2. to trouble by repeated attacks, incursions, etc., as in war or hostilities; harry; raid. you're harassing the people grieving in the funeral when they're asking you to stop. and if he's a fascist, you're a hatemonger.

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24453800]You'd think the feelings of grieving families would matter more than the money of a multi-million dollar company anyway[/QUOTE] People don't have the right to be free from being offended. However, business do maintain the right to be free from slander.

[QUOTE=JDK721;24453885]you're a fucking fascist[/QUOTE] and you're a bad troll

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24453884]by common sense, you don't go wearing a robe that signifies lynching and using words of hate, into an african american pride convention where there'll be hundreds of them, without expecting to get your ass kicked.[/QUOTE] You should also expect legal action after assaulting someone.

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24453910]ha·rass   [huh-ras, har-uhs] Show IPA –verb (used with object) 1. to disturb persistently; torment, as with troubles or cares; bother continually; pester; persecute. 2. to trouble by repeated attacks, incursions, etc., as in war or hostilities; harry; raid.[/QUOTE] legally they aren't harassing anyone [editline]11:41PM[/editline] [QUOTE=raccoon12;24453943]and you're a bad troll[/QUOTE] calling someone a fascist for wanting to shoot people who they don't like =/= troll

[QUOTE=Billiam;24453894]I don't think you understand how liberties work.[/QUOTE] ok [QUOTE=Billiam;24453894Do as you please, so long as you aren't infringing on another's rights. A free society can't really work any other way.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-08-30-1Afuneralprotests_CV_N.htm[/url] [i]Washington lawyer Walter Dellinger, representing Senate leaders, tells the high court that free speech on public issues "does not encompass insults and verbal abuse intended to invade a private memorial ceremony and injure its participants." He says protesters can take a stand in virtually any public place, but they cannot "hijack (a family's) private funeral as a vehicle for expression of their own hate[i] you're infringing on the rights of the grievers, you're forgetting Westboro protesters do it in private funerals too, but they can't do anything because you extreme libertines always stand up for them. where's our right to fight back? [QUOTE=Billiam;24453894] You're welcomed to do that too. I'd rather you don't, however. [/QUOTE] I'd rather not get punched during it, but I will be, because that's how the world works, and I lack common sense. [QUOTE=Billiam;24453894]The funeral can still proceed with a protest going on outside of it, however most events have to stop with the threat of an uncontrolled fire going around.[/QUOTE] yeah, it can certainly proceed while a priest or someone providing an eulogy is outheard by protests saying his son is a fag, when you yell 'FIRE' over a theater, people tend to look around and know you're bullshitting. [QUOTE=Billiam;24453894]And please elaborate how it's dangerous.[/QUOTE] humans are volatile and protective, and saying it's offspring will burn in an eternal hellfire usually leads them punching you or developing a riot

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24453641]what the fuck does protesting a funeral accomplish, I swear the fucking god, it's more or less one of the most pointless things to do while inflicting stress and emotional damage to the people in the funeral. you guys are pussies, if you can't protest war or high ranking officials unless they're in the funeral, you don't deserve to protest. we protested lingle on her shit, like her zealotry against gay marriage, we got signs, stood infront of city hall, protested, and was heard. you'll never us see protesting her in her own son's funeral. christ, if you guys want your freedom of speech so much, let me scream 'FIRE' in a movie theater, it's a constitutional right, right?[/QUOTE] yelling fire in a movie theater is causing panic and incite to riot.

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24453910]and if he's a fascist, you're a hatemonger.[/QUOTE] He's not hate-mongering he's supporting political rights.

Guys as much as I hate wbc, they don't deserve to be killed. Tough I hate them and I do with that they would die of cancer or something, they are within legal rights to do this.

[QUOTE=JDK721;24454011]legally they aren't harassing anyone [/QUOTE] which should be should be considered a loophole since you're maintaining your harassment, not going away, and repeatedly grieving the people in the funeral after repeated requests to go away like i said, if i'm a fascist, you're a hate monger. you're allowing people to incite hatred/prejudice and even standing up for them

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24454090]which should be should be considered a loophole since you're maintaining your harassment, not going away, and repeatedly grieving the people in the funeral after repeated requests to go away like i said, if i'm a fascist, you're a hate monger. you're allowing people to incite hatred/prejudice and even standing up for them[/QUOTE] they're protesting on public property, nobody can tell them to go anywhere, so it's not harassment.

now they sue him for all he's worth and have money to travel around and do more of this shit

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24454044]yelling fire in a movie theater is causing panic and incite to riot.[/QUOTE] but saying your son is a faggot and gonna burn in hell to a father who lost his loved son in iraq isn't? As well, having several comrades grieving? it works both ways and billiam, did you know, it's your right to break into someone's house, get injured, and sue?

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24454132]but saying your son is a faggot and gonna burn in hell to a father who lost his loved son in iraq isn't? As well, having several comrades grieving? it works both ways and billiam, did you know, it's your right to break into someone's house, get injured, and sue?[/QUOTE] WBC does not say "your son is a fag" they're careful with their words. just "god hates fags" "thank god for dead soldiers" etc.

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24454090]which should be should be considered a loophole since you're maintaining your harassment, not going away, and repeatedly grieving the people in the funeral after repeated requests to go away like i said, if i'm a fascist, you're a hate monger. you're allowing people to incite hatred/prejudice and even standing up for them[/QUOTE] What, how are they "inciting hatred/prejudice"? Sure they're yelling their own prejudice, but I don't think someone seeing the protest is gonna thing "yea fuck those fags let's kill em"

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24454117]they're protesting on public property, nobody can tell them to go anywhere, so it's not harassment.[/QUOTE] except not all of them are public property or is rented, but they can't go away because of extreme libertines that'll stand up for the most illogical and common-sense lacking shit. everything you say works on paper, then you put in the real world, shit goes out cause not all human beings are same even if it looks like that from sitting behind a monitor.

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24454164]except not all of them are public property or is rented, but they can't go away because of extreme libertines that'll stand up for the most illogical and common-sense lacking shit. everything you say works on paper, then you put in the real world, shit goes out cause not all human beings are same even if it looks like that from sitting behind a monitor.[/QUOTE] no. they protest on public property. if they were on private property they would have been arrested by now.

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24454143]WBC does not say "your son is a fag" they're careful with their words. just "god hates fags" "thank god for dead soldiers" etc.[/QUOTE] which literally means your son is a fag, do you think the family is gonna think any different? @xen: that's why they're still growing, right?

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24454090]like i said, if i'm a fascist, you're a hate monger. you're allowing people to incite hatred/prejudice and even standing up for them[/QUOTE] nope, not at all because a hate monger is someone who incites/provokes hate against someone, and I'm not doing either of those things I'm NOT condoning what they're doing, but they have the right to do it