Revealed: Russia Unprepared to Deal With Space Alien Invasion – Official
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[QUOTE=Boaraes;42446934]Well if they're advanced enough to get to us this quickly then they're advanced enough to have built defenses against these. They could also just glass us from space, because nuclear weapons don't work in space.[/QUOTE]
Yes they do....
This is how Russia will react to Aliens landing.
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42446872]You ought to read Harry Turtledove's World War/Colonization series.
Australia is like the only country where aliens fully colonize and kick out the humans :v:[/QUOTE]
That's because the Aliens in it were backwards as heck despite their technological superiority.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;42446318]yes
it wouldn't work though, the bullets would remain in orbit[/QUOTE]
Or you know, you could literally fire them from a gun and they'd hit the ground.
You know, kind of like what you do with bullets, put them in a gun and propel them at things.
[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;42446986]That's because the Aliens in it were backwards as heck despite their technological superiority.[/QUOTE]
From a human point of view, yeah. But how the books are written, humans are the exception to the norm in cultural life developing throughout the stars. The Race had conquered at least 3 (iirc) other planets whose world culture was almost identical to their own.
What do you mean they're not ready for an invasion?
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[QUOTE=laserguided;42446955]Yes they do....[/QUOTE]
If I recall correctly, the damage of a nuclear bomb comes from the massive shockwave it creates. Since there is no atmosphere is space, only radiation remains. Considering an alien ship likely has a radiation-resistant hull because of the constant bombardment from the sun's radiation, it'll do fuck all.
[quote]1976 Outer Space Treaty[/quote]
What a short-sighted and confusing treaty name
Like, if we keep heading out into outer space there's going to be a lot of treaties called that.
[QUOTE=Boaraes;42447255]If I recall correctly, the damage of a nuclear bomb comes from the massive shockwave it creates. Since there is no atmosphere is space, only radiation remains. Considering an alien ship likely has a radiation-resistant hull because of the constant bombardment from the sun's radiation, it'll do fuck all.[/QUOTE]
Particles, radiation and heat. How do you think Project Orion would have worked if there were no forces exerted from the explosion? Why do you think scientists mention the possibility of nuclear deflection of asteroids etc?
Why everyone assumes that aliens will try to kill everyone?
[QUOTE=EqueL;42447374]Why everyone assumes that aliens will try to kill everyone?[/QUOTE]
Because Stephen Hawking compared them to Coloumbus and he's the smarterest person ever
Well unless they have some kind of FTL technology, there is a good chance we would see them coming. I would think that a ship capable of interstellar travel would have to be of a good size, maybe something like a football field in length or more, and if it was on an intercept trajectory with earth we would notice.
unless its invisible to radio waves and visible light, then gg
[QUOTE=EqueL;42447374]Why everyone assumes that aliens will try to kill everyone?[/QUOTE]
Why wouldn't they?
[QUOTE=mecaguy03;42447521]Well unless they have some kind of FTL technology, there is a good chance we would see them coming. I would think that a ship capable of interstellar travel would have to be of a good size, maybe something like a football field in length or more, and if it was on an intercept trajectory with earth we would notice.
unless its invisible to radio waves and visible light, then gg[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure if you're gonna invade a planet then your fleets flagship will be a bit bigger than a football stadium, some US Navy Battleships are as big as skyscrapers.
Best way to fight an enemy with superior tech and firepower is to engage them in a close environment like urban or forest so their crap won't mean as much. Bring lots of automatic and anti-tank weapons, and make goddamn sure they don't get air superiority. If they have the sky, you might as well hand the battle over to them, at least in the long term.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;42447640]Best way to fight an enemy with superior tech and firepower is to engage them in a close environment like urban or forest so their crap won't mean as much. Bring lots of automatic and anti-tank weapons, and make goddamn sure they don't get air superiority. If they have the sky, you might as well hand the battle over to them, at least in the long term.[/QUOTE]
Well seeing as they would come in space warships I would kinda assume they'd hold the sky
[QUOTE=EqueL;42447374]Why everyone assumes that aliens will try to kill everyone?[/QUOTE]
Given the unimaginably huge amount of resources required for planetary travel, any aliens that reach earth will be so technologically advanced that even if they come in peace, they will culturally, economically and technologically conquer us to the point that mankind will no longer look as it were before first contact.
Alien conquest doesn't necessarily mean military conquest, nor does it mean it'll be on purpose. The advances other beings could give us will make us so dependent on them that we'll essentially give ourselves freely to them.
Or we'll adapt all their stuff for us and tell them to fook off
We humans are good at doing that
Pfft I'd like to see the Aliens survive the barren wasteland of Siberia... Only the Russians can survive there.
[QUOTE=mecaguy03;42447521]Well unless they have some kind of FTL technology, there is a good chance we would see them coming. I would think that a ship capable of interstellar travel would have to be of a good size, maybe something like a football field in length or more, and if it was on an intercept trajectory with earth we would notice.
unless its invisible to radio waves and visible light, then gg[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't it be funny if they somehow managed to crash into earth going faster than the speed of light.
Like ''aww dammit larry you forgot to engage the parking break again!''
what if the aliens are just looking for dinosaurs like how Columbus was looking for spice indians?
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;42448371]Wouldn't it be funny if they somehow managed to crash into earth going faster than the speed of light.
Like ''aww dammit larry you forgot to engage the parking break again!''[/QUOTE]
that's probably just vaporize the solar system with the massive amounts of energy from the impact
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;42447652]Well seeing as they would come in space warships I would kinda assume they'd hold the sky[/QUOTE]
Shoot at them with anti-satellite missiles. They don't have to kill them, just keep the opposition's navy on its toes, keep 'em from operating freely.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;42445007]A plan for alien invasion would be useless anyway. "No battle plan survives contact with the enemy". This is especially true for aliens, since we don't have any idea what weapons the aliens would have, what they're capable of or even what the hell they would look like.
I'm taking this too seriously :v:[/QUOTE]
As silly as it sounds it's still a threat that you shouldn't just dismiss. We don't really know either way :v:
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;42449509]Shoot at them with anti-satellite missiles. They don't have to kill them, just keep the opposition's navy on its toes, keep 'em from operating freely.[/QUOTE]
Yeah
But it's a [I]space[/I] navy
I'm pretty sure they can handle what few anti-satellite missiles humanity has
We are like the guy at work who sits next to the coffee, and smells like shit and is really mean all the time. You just try to slip by undetected and get some coffee.
water is coffee in this analogy.
Humans are the shit-smelling asshole.
Thinking about it, with all of the depictions of aliens as being smarter, bigger or altogether better than humans, I think it'd be hilarious if the opposite were actually true. Maybe they'd be smaller than us, but a bit smarter too, a la the greys. Maybe they'd be bigger than us, but so stupid that they posed little threat. Perhaps they'd just be goofy little shitheads we could pummel with little physical/military effort, who made a very big mistake in picking on us planetside "savages".
I can see it now, tiny little humanoids emerging onto the planet's surface from their invasion fleet, only to shit themselves when they find out that we're bigger, meaner and way more experienced when it comes to war.
Really though, in all likelihood there'd be a plentiful amount of similar alien races that are better or worse than us in some categories, and equal in others. Assuming of course that alien life wasn't so alien that one race was slime critters while another was energy beings, or some other strange shit.
One more thing: If your nation's home turf is so hostile and inhospitable that one of the most intimidating planetary native armies in recorded history couldn't handle it, chances are that alien life wouldn't hold up even a fraction as long as the Germans did without some seriously good tech and/or natural adaptations. And that's without factoring in the acclimated and armed native population.
I think it's safe to say if aliens reach earth, they're pretty damn intelligent.
[QUOTE=EqueL;42447374]Why everyone assumes that aliens will try to kill everyone?[/QUOTE]
I think it's because the most prominent piece of extraterrestrial literature in the late 19th century, when space awareness was burgeoning within the middle-lower classes, was The War of the Worlds, which portrayed the alien invaders (initially at least) as murderous and wantonly destructive.
However what people often fail to realize and grasp the subtext of when reading TWOTW is the fact that the Martians are [I]not[/I] mindlessly destructive or slaughtering, and the novel is intentionally skewed from a survivor's perspective, and the later chapters clarify this with a more scientific analysis of their functioning and methods.
The Martians aren't actually wantonly destroying the English countryside out of malice or bloodymindedness; Indeed, they're not even wantonly destroying much once they've made their initial power-play and show of force in Weybridge. They're invading and taking over because their homeplanet is dying and running low on resources. Much like other invaders in the past in human history, which is the entire subtext of the novel; and much like we will inevitably become when more reliable space travel is developed. There's a significant hinting within the chapters that describe Martian physiology that they are the ultimate evolution of us as a race, of course it's somewhat skewed and inaccurate because it was 1898, but still.
As seems to be a theme with the work of H.G. Wells, the novel is used to slate a side of human culture without directly mentioning it. It was used as a "FUCK YOU" to british colonialism, something which Wells rather reviled. You can also see this in The Time Machine, which has very prevalent anti-classist undercurrents; which makes a LOT of sense when you read Kipps (a thinly disguised autobiography), since Wells was a working-class child and grew up in a generally working-class environment. His wealth and fame came in much, much later years in his life.
But yeah, the reason aliens are portrayed both in culture and the public mindset is that the first massive piece of literature involving extraterrestrial contact portrayed them as [I]on the surface[/I] mindless slaughterers.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42447683]Given the unimaginably huge amount of resources required for planetary travel, any aliens that reach earth will be so technologically advanced that even if they come in peace, they will culturally, economically and technologically conquer us to the point that mankind will no longer look as it were before first contact.
Alien conquest doesn't necessarily mean military conquest, nor does it mean it'll be on purpose. The advances other beings could give us will make us so dependent on them that we'll essentially give ourselves freely to them.[/QUOTE]
what you describe isn't necessarily bad through, especially if they're culturally/socially advanced.
it sorta remembers me of the python skit "what have the romans ever done for us?" lol
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