Revealed: Russia Unprepared to Deal With Space Alien Invasion – Official - Polidicks

Hopefully the aliens don't have defenses similar to the aliens in "Independence Day". :suicide:

I don't get it. There's lots of things Russia could do. Collect intel with satellites, deploy troops, launch missiles.

[QUOTE=cqbcat;42451625]I don't get it. There's lots of things Russia could do. Collect intel with satellites, deploy troops, launch missiles.[/QUOTE] Deploy troops where? On the moon?

[QUOTE=Boaraes;42447255]If I recall correctly, the damage of a nuclear bomb comes from the massive shockwave it creates. Since there is no atmosphere is space, only radiation remains. Considering an alien ship likely has a radiation-resistant hull because of the constant bombardment from the sun's radiation, it'll do fuck all.[/QUOTE] No Just no Shock waves (which are just a side effect of the blast anyway) in no way require an atmosphere to be produced.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42451263]what you describe isn't necessarily bad through, especially if they're culturally/socially advanced. it sorta remembers me of the python skit "what have the romans ever done for us?" lol [video=youtube;ExWfh6sGyso]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso[/video][/QUOTE] Let's not forget the complete and utter destruction of the Jewish kingdom, massacres of populations during any kind of rebellion and forcing their culture on them. A better example, as mentioned before in this thread, is Columbus meeting the Amerindians. Sure, the Americas saw gunpowder, ocean-faring ships, exotic foods and better medicine, but I don't quite hear they're doing so well today compared to the visitors.

[QUOTE=Boaraes;42447255]If I recall correctly, the damage of a nuclear bomb comes from the massive shockwave it creates. Since there is no atmosphere is space, only radiation remains. Considering an alien ship likely has a radiation-resistant hull because of the constant bombardment from the sun's radiation, it'll do fuck all.[/QUOTE] Or, you know, the multiple-kilometer-wide-fireball and massive amount of pressure, heat, and light generated.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42451658]Let's not forget the complete and utter destruction of the Jewish kingdom, massacres of populations during any kind of rebellion and forcing their culture on them. A better example, as mentioned before in this thread, is Columbus meeting the Amerindians. Sure, the Americas saw gunpowder, ocean-faring ships, exotic foods and better medicine, but I don't quite hear they're doing so well today compared to the visitors.[/QUOTE] Boy ain't that the fucking truth. Let's just hope we are the ones with the advanced stuff and we space travel before them. I know it sounds far fetch, but I mean who knows, right?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42451636]Deploy troops where? On the moon?[/QUOTE] I'd imagine the troops would be deployed where ever the aliens deploy their ground forces. That is if it's that kind of invasion. If everything remains orbital, I suppose special forces could be deployed in space to perform sabotage or boarding on alien spacecraft. It depends on how advanced the aliens are. Just cause they accomplished interstellar travel doesn't always mean they're more advanced. Maybe they're on par with 21st century human tech, but achieved space travel in a crude fashion. Like build a big ass armored space craft, freeze thousands of soldiers in side of them, and thaw them out after thousands of years of travel. Or maybe they're more sophisticated as in perfecting faste than light engines, telekinesis, and energy weapons. If we fight the latter, we're probably fucked.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42451658]Let's not forget the complete and utter destruction of the Jewish kingdom, massacres of populations during any kind of rebellion and forcing their culture on them. A better example, as mentioned before in this thread, is Columbus meeting the Amerindians. Sure, the Americas saw gunpowder, ocean-faring ships, exotic foods and better medicine, but I don't quite hear they're doing so well today compared to the visitors.[/QUOTE] yeah, except you meant non military conquest, i simply put that video , because i wouldn't be surprised if people whined about aliens visiting earth, and they turned to be nice folks and helped humanity, since people whine about everything.

[QUOTE=ScratchNsniff;42448269]Pfft I'd like to see the Aliens survive the barren wasteland of Siberia... Only the Russians can survive there.[/QUOTE] If you've ever read the "World War" series by Harry Turtledove, you'd know why I find this funny. [sp]A reptilian race invades Earth during WWII, but they don't advance nearly as fast as we do (they've been technologically "stagnant" for the last 10,000 years or so), so the information their probes provided during our Middle Ages is vastly out-dated. Their tactics are also terrible, so while they're fighting with assault rifles, and what equates to Abrams tanks and F-14/15 jets we're still able to put up a good fight (except in the air). It also details accounts from the aliens, who are also cold-blooded. One member of a tank crew learned his tank was being transferred from eastern Europe to "a place called Siberia", and that he "hopes this Siberia place is warmer than here".[/sp]

[QUOTE=Boaraes;42447255]If I recall correctly, the damage of a nuclear bomb comes from the massive shockwave it creates. Since there is no atmosphere is space, only radiation remains. Considering an alien ship likely has a radiation-resistant hull because of the constant bombardment from the sun's radiation, it'll do fuck all.[/QUOTE] Keep in mind that the shockwave is only part of it; nuclear weapons give off stupid amounts of energy right when they're initiated. Granted you'd have to score a direct hit for it to work, but it should theoretically get hot enough to burn through a ship's hull regardless of what it's made of.

[QUOTE=mecaguy03;42447521]Well unless they have some kind of FTL technology, there is a good chance we would see them coming. I would think that a ship capable of interstellar travel would have to be of a good size, maybe something like a football field in length or more, and if it was on an intercept trajectory with earth we would notice. unless its invisible to radio waves and visible light, then gg[/QUOTE] I imagine a ship capable of interstellar travel would probably be MUCH bigger than that. Hell, I imagine the fuel tanks alone would probably be kilometres long. [QUOTE=H8Entitlement;42451642]No Just no Shock waves (which are just a side effect of the blast anyway) in no way require an atmosphere to be produced.[/QUOTE] Uhh, yes. If you detonate a nuclear weapon outside of some medium (such as air) it's only the fireball that causes any damage. Sure, if you hit the surface of a spaceship with a nuke a lot of energy would be transferred into the structure and vibrate it, but it wouldn't do anywhere NEAR as much damage as if you detonated a nuke next to it in atmosphere. The atmosphere really amplifies the destructive capabilities of a nuclear weapon.

[QUOTE=Boaraes;42447255]If I recall correctly, the damage of a nuclear bomb comes from the massive shockwave it creates. Since there is no atmosphere is space, only radiation remains. Considering an alien ship likely has a radiation-resistant hull because of the constant bombardment from the sun's radiation, it'll do fuck all.[/QUOTE] Also, nuclear radiation is not the same as the radiation the sun gives off, fairly certain.

[QUOTE=Drsalvador;42452066]Also, nuclear radiation is not the same as the radiation the sun gives off, fairly certain.[/QUOTE] It is partially. A nuclear weapon still gives off a lot of electomagnetic radiation right across the spectrum (radiowaves right through to gamma rays) but the type of radiation that everyone goes on about is stuff like alpha radiation, beta radiation, neutron radiation, etc (none of which are electromagnetic in nature).

i know we all believe math is the universal language of the...well, universe, and that implies we would share a lot with extraterrestrial travelers, but there's literally no telling what the ALIUMS would be like we only understand a frame of reference comprising earthly fauna, where the 'weirdest' things are deep sea shellfish and outback insects, all restricted to earth's gravity, atmosphere, temperatures, and magnetic fields it's kind of interesting to think, then, that any genuine interstellar visitor on their home planet would look equally as detached from anything currently existing on earth as much as it would every concept of an alien that we have tried to envision

[QUOTE=sltungle;42452111]It is partially. A nuclear weapon still gives off a lot of electomagnetic radiation right across the spectrum (radiowaves right through to gamma rays) but the type of radiation that everyone goes on about is stuff like alpha radiation, beta radiation, neutron radiation, etc (none of which are electromagnetic in nature).[/QUOTE] Was probably wrong anyway, it was just a guess. The 'fairly certain' wasn't snark, it was insurance.

But honestly guys, of what economic or strategic value would it be to invade (go to war) with people on Earth? As Carl Sagan put it, our pale blue dot is nothing, essentially, even when compared to our local star neighborhood. There are so many damn stars out there with planets orbiting them that there just has to be habitable planets for whatever civilization that manages to zip around with FTL drives. Earth is just another planet and resource wise the only unique thing here is life. The resources mined on Earth (especially rare Earth materials (because they are rare.. on Earth)) are more easily found on a random rock floating about or on a barren, dry planet like mars, and there is for sure no shortage of dead planets in even the nearest star from us. I just don't see the reason an alien civilization would even want to put up with us when they have practically and infinite amount of worlds to exploit, assuming they can zip around with FTL drives in space as easily as we drive our cars around town.

[QUOTE=muffinmastah;42452268]But honestly guys, of what economic or strategic value would it be to invade (go to war) with people on Earth?[/QUOTE] What makes you think they'd do something as barbaric and silly as "invade" us or "go to war" with us? Just consider how much more intelligent we are than say pigs, consider what we do with pigs these days, consider how much pigs actually [I]understand[/I] about what is happening to them. Now imagine a race as intelligently and racially superior to us as we are to pigs and ask yourself, would we stand a chance? Would we even understand what would be happening to us? Would we even realise we are being manipulated with? I don't believe in alien conspiracies or whatever, but I think it's an interesting thing to think about.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42454430]What makes you think they'd do something as barbaric and silly as "invade" us or "go to war" with us? Just consider how much more intelligent we are than say pigs, consider what we do with pigs these days, consider how much pigs actually [I]understand[/I] about what is happening to them. Now imagine a race as intelligently and racially superior to us as we are to pigs and ask yourself, would we stand a chance? Would we even understand what would be happening to us? Would we even realise we are being manipulated with? I don't believe in alien conspiracies or whatever, but I think it's an interesting thing to think about.[/QUOTE] i think the problem with that mindset, is that people tend to forget there a pretty big difference, between something that is sentient, and something that ain't. sure they might be vastly more intelligent, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll be incapable of contacting, understanding, or at the very least realizing that humanity is sentient. they would have their own history to verify, or even contacts with other species to use it as reference.

Sure but what about their morality, will they consider up intelligent enough to be worth contacting?

[QUOTE=bravehat;42447042]Or you know, you could literally fire them from a gun and they'd hit the ground. You know, kind of like what you do with bullets, put them in a gun and propel them at things.[/QUOTE] i'm not stupid if you fired them downwards then they wouldn't actually hit the ground (play KSP sometime and see why) unless you fired them incredibly quickly - and then they'd just burn up on reentry

If movies have tought me anything it's that aliens only attack the US.

[QUOTE=Ishwoo;42454984]If movies have tought me anything it's that aliens only attack the US.[/QUOTE] well of course if you were an alien would you invade the barren wasteland or the glorious US of A.

[QUOTE=Ishwoo;42454984]If movies have tought me anything it's that aliens only attack the US.[/QUOTE] They also seem particularly fond of destroying national monuments of other countries as if to make a point of saying " Aww, France, don't you be looking at me like that, I want to invade you all equally". You'd think most terrorist organizations and aliens would get along swimmingly given their common love of obliterating cliched national icons.

A spin on this is that we are the first life they've been able to contact. What if they're only slightly ahead of us as we've been reaching out in the stars as well. It'd be truly something if we worked together and maybe aspects of each civilization assisted the other and benefited both. If life is unique and rare at all in space with how big it really is you'd think any aliens (or us) that managed to make contact with some other species of sentient would value how special they are.

[QUOTE=Dr McNinja;42455517]A spin on this is that we are the first life they've been able to contact. What if they're only slightly ahead of us as we've been reaching out in the stars as well. It'd be truly something if we worked together and maybe aspects of each civilization assisted the other and benefited both. If life is unique and rare at all in space with how big it really is you'd think any aliens (or us) that managed to make contact with some other species of sentient would value how special they are.[/QUOTE] I like to think of it like this. But at the same breathe what if they're a Hitlerlyish kind of aliens? Where they believe in a pure form and everyone else is just disgusting and they want to purify the galaxy? It could go either way really. I hope if they ever do come they help us, give us cures and tech that we need. Maybe even integrate us into their form of govt. and we actually end up better off than we ever have been. But this is something else I thought, what if it's not an actual alien alien, like a green man or reptile type creature, but a infection. Like Deadspace (I know I know) but seriously, like what if we end up finding something like that, and it just wipes us out. I mean ya it might not seem like much, but actually think about what it'd be like to see people just offing themselves and turning into horrible zombie alien creatures that want to rip your face off. That shit is scary. Space is scary. Fuck.

[QUOTE=Dr McNinja;42455517]A spin on this is that we are the first life they've been able to contact. [B]What if they're only slightly ahead of us[/B] as we've been reaching out in the stars as well. It'd be truly something if we worked together and maybe aspects of each civilization assisted the other and benefited both. If life is unique and rare at all in space with how big it really is you'd think any aliens (or us) that managed to make contact with some other species of sentient would value how special they are.[/QUOTE] They are gonna have to be more then slightly more advanced then us to be able to go interstellar. Our only (possibly, que relevant XKCD) interstellar probe is small probe from the late 70's. At the very minimum, they would have to travel 4.24 lightyears. With out fastest ever probe + some extra speed added since it could probably ahve gone even faster, that would take over 13 000 years. Might not be that feasible. I'd hope that if some alien species ever found us, they would watch us from a distance for a while. Would be interesting to see what would happen to human society and scientific progress if we made contact. (Actually, on that, read Sundiver. Kinda takes up that scenario) [editline]8th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;42455794] but actually think about what it'd be like to see people just offing themselves and turning into horrible zombie alien creatures that want to rip your face off. That shit is scary. Space is scary. Fuck.[/QUOTE] Read Leviathan Wakes. Space goo ohoy

Well, I have a theory that all these aliens may want to kill us and stuff just because of the fact that they should start catching our tv signals years before they would reach the Earth. And even if their initial purpose was to help us, years of watching our tv shows can make them change their mind.

[QUOTE=BreenIsALie;42455811]They are gonna have to be more then slightly more advanced then us to be able to go interstellar[/QUOTE] Definitely. But I just meant if they could communicate with us. Like we send signals out pretty far now I mean if they can do better and somehow create a conversation with us. Without physical contact we could still potentially figure out FTL or whatever space travel method together.

[QUOTE=Comcastic;42445876]We should unite the military forces on the planet for an Earth defense league. We'd all become bros.[/QUOTE] We kinda did that already, its the United Nations.