I'm not surprised at all that their pictures are from stock photos. I suspected they would but didn't look into it myself. That confirms it is fake, though.
[b]Edit:[/b] They removed the video. I can still watch it on my browser, is there any way to download it? I have FlashGot plugin, but it wants me to restart Firefox to enable it. Here is a shot from the video:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/wJAMlWZ.jpg[/img]
Here is the video update: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DMizH8vJMQ[/url]
[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;45211478]
And the people who already gave them money aren't any better[/QUOTE]
How would these guys know anyway ?
I fell for it too except i didn't back the project.
This just keeps getting even more confusing. Seems it might not be fake, again. It keeps going back and forth between the two, I'm sure something else will come along to make it seem fake again. I really don't know what to think about this campaign anymore. I'd like to see the game be made as it sounds like a great idea, but they have done things so poorly it wouldn't really seem right to back them. They've been so unprofessional with their Kickstarter campaign and if they had just put some actual effort into it at the start all these problems could of been avoided.
The video is back. It's actually a new video, you can see the old link on my previous post. I don't know why it was reuploaded.
[video=youtube;6GK3baH33os]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GK3baH33os[/video]
[QUOTE=Hybrid 4F;45220990]The video is back. It's actually a new video, you can see the old one on my previous post. I don't know why it was reuploaded.
[video=youtube;6GK3baH33os]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GK3baH33os[/video][/QUOTE]
This just makes it even more confusing.
The plot thickens. I don't know what to think, now.
[editline]26th June 2014[/editline]
If this is real, they're incredibly unprofessional and ill-prepared for game development, much less asking people for funding. If it's fake, it seems like they're going pretty far to rake in extra dosh - they've already netted over 30K, so if this is fake, why wouldn't they have cashed their chips in already instead of complicating things and possibly implicating themselves?
[QUOTE=Furioso;45223945]If this is real, they're incredibly unprofessional and ill-prepared for game development, much less asking people for funding. If it's fake, it seems like they're going pretty far to rake in extra dosh - they've already netted over 30K, so if this is fake, why wouldn't they have cashed their chips in already instead of complicating things and possibly implicating themselves?[/QUOTE]
You don't get the dosh if you don't make your goal on Kickstarter. They have nothing to cash in until they hit 50k so they have to double down if they're unwilling to pussy out yet.
If they are, in fact, actually trying to make this happen in good faith, and they're not just scammers despite the massive number of curious discrepancies that have all piled up together, this is going to be a worse disaster than Limbo of the Lost, and that's an accomplishment. If it teaches a pack of idiots the meaning of [I]caveat emptor[/I] and how to use Kickstarter properly, I see no problem with them swallowing up some peoples' beer money to fail hilariously and provide YouTube channels with content fodder.
Man I get such a 'Limbo of the Lost' vibe from all of this...
[QUOTE=LNKFAN;45214618]It looks like STALKER's successor is not Areal, but Amyth ...[/QUOTE]
Wow I'm retarded and tired, I googled Amyth expecting another crowdfunded game then the joke hit me.
[editline]26th June 2014[/editline]
Hahaha what the hell they[I] are[/I] the stock photos?
What a weird twist
its not that hard to make a photo of yours a stock photo some websites dont even ask questions so long as they watermark it and get to add it to their library for padding. (i actually am in a stock photo tagged as "gamer". :v:) so i guess if somebody really felt like it they could've put these dude's photos in a stock database
also that video just screams Slav in quality.
[QUOTE=Hybrid 4F;45220818][b]Edit:[/b] They removed the video, what the hell? I can still watch the video, is there any way to download it? I have FlashGot plugin, but it wants me to restart Firefox to enable it. Here's a shot from the video:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/wJAMlWZ.jpg[/img]
Here's the video update: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DMizH8vJMQ[/url][/QUOTE]
Holy shit they are literally stock photos.
decided to do some snooping around, searched for the author tarmashev [URL="http://tarmashev.com/"]his site does seem to agree with west's story.[/URL]
looks like areal if it is for real will be based off of a book series of his called according to google translate area. i'm going to play internet detective some more.
[QUOTE=t h e;45214487]the entire kickstarter page is so poorly made and all the content sounds like bullshit. It doesn't take that long to realize it's a bunch of bullshit. It just looks like they wrote up someone's dream game. Everything is so poorly done from basic presentation to writing content. Why would you pledge money to this
[editline]26th June 2014[/editline]
[img]https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/002/186/936/6adcd5a96fe4ef04d50f0df144869efd_large.png?1403606561[/img]
lolwhat[/QUOTE]
Honestly, the STALKER-universe and theme fit into almost anywhere perfectly.
For some examples here are some good theme-pictures of Fukushima, Japan. It'd be a perfect setting for a STALKER inspired game.
[t]http://donaldweber.com/files/2011/06/001.jpg[/t]
[t]http://donaldweber.com/files/2011/06/003.jpg[/t]
Very eerie. Sometimes things are completely intact, just as they were left, other times they're destroyed and warped beyond imagination by the tsunami. Throw in the radiation and the usual STALKER anomalies/mutants and it's creepy x10
But this is just an example. Every country has places like this, every geographic location has things that would make it a good setting for a STALKER game.
For example. The Saltan Sea is in the United States and that shit is pretty creepy/STALKERish if you ask me.
[t]http://www.tidyphotography.com/tidy/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/the-Salton-Sea-005.jpg[/t]
[t]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CYPDFrVLwsw/TuEmuVfrZgI/AAAAAAAAA34/OkYcMCedCrA/s1600/SaltonSeaRustyCrane4.jpg[/t]
Detroit
[t]http://www.abandonedamerica.us/imgs/gallerylarge/294_15678_8890538.jpeg[/t]
Picher, Oklahoma
[t]http://www.sosbluewaters.org/Tar_Creek_Superfund_small.jpg[/t]
[t]http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/080510/080510-picher-bcol1-11a.grid-6x2.jpg[/t]
And so on
[QUOTE=Ownederd;45217305]did you read the thread that i linked. they've got no reason to feed yellow journalism[/QUOTE]
What? The only thing in this link is a reddit comment page to an image of the same quote ([url=http://i.imgur.com/RLm1MWI.png]"we have contacted Vostok games about their supposed claim.."[/url]). One of the comments is a link to [URL]http://www.miserymod.com/?page_id=1911[/URL], which deconstructs the kickstarter.
How is this "waving your dick around" or "harassing"?
we can't click those linkedin links unless we're logged in. take screen shots pls.
So [URL="http://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/291nt4/project_ariel_uses_template_unity_map_asset_to/cihmqfe"]this[/URL] post on Reddit is interesting.
Apparently this isn't the first Kickstarter that the guy the money goes to has created?
Dont trust "West Games" its 100% a scam.
[QUOTE=lintz;45227565]we can't click those linkedin links unless we're logged in. take screen shots pls.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://imgur.com/kYo2os1"]i'm doing imgur links since the thumbnail for it is too awkward[/URL]
first up is the CEO i'll edit these to add the rest of the team.
also from the newfound info i do believe that maximillian kovtun is the main culprit here and the rest is in for a ride. i'm trying to find credible bits and pieces but at least a it seems he took the actual devs (a college student on facebook :v:) for space pioneer on a ride.
so yeah, i feel like doing some doxxing on him in a bit.
[editline] 27 june 2014[/editline]
accidentially found eugene kim's [URL="http://eugene-kim.com/"]personal blog[/URL] while searching for info, apparently dude never moved outta ukraine, ditto for the rest of the devs.
also found kovtun's [URL="https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=307347144&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=r8GR&locale=en_US&srchid=2271272271403869585336&srchindex=1&srchtotal=1&trk=vsrp_people_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A2271272271403869585336%2CVSRPtargetId%3A307347144%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary"]linkedin[/URL], via association to all of the failed kickstarter companies problem is, i'm locked out since my usual strategy isnt working
This might be a real Kickstarter project after all, at least it seems like the game is being worked on and the team are who they claim to be. I'm not sure about the stuff about someone the money is going to being involved in other failing Kickstarters, though. The team is definitely real. They were formerly "Union studios" which was set up in 2012 by the same people. In 2012 they were working on what seems like same game.
I don't think it's a scam anymore, just a poorly managed Kickstarter. I'm not sure about backing it at the moment though, I'd like to see the game be made, but they haven't really done much so far to answer backers questions, many of which are actual things to be concerned about regarding the project.
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