• Man in Sweden wears T-shirt with the text "ISLAM IS THE DEVIL". Police confiscate T-shirt, man inves
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[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;46551497]What does this mean? You actually think all Muslims follow the Quran to a tee? Do Christians stone adulterers and whatnot? No? Why not?[/QUOTE] It means read the Quran and see for yourself. Its by far one of the most violent, hateful and evil religions I have ever studied.
[QUOTE=jo291;46551546]It means read the Quran and see for yourself. Its by far one of the most violent and evil religions I have ever studied.[/QUOTE] But does that translate to all Muslims? The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful.... How can there be peaceful Muslims at all if the Quran is so violent? Maybe because they are appropriately secularized, just like how most of Europe was 400 years ago.
Barring the idiotic argument about the "Islamisation" of the West, can we at least agree on enforcing legal action on speech to be overreaching when it doesn't directly endanger anybody? [editline]23rd November 2014[/editline] And if we don't that would certainly be a much more interesting discussion...
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;46551556]But does that translate to all Muslims? How can there be peaceful Muslims at all if the Quran is so violent? Maybe because they are appropriately secularized, just like how most of Europe was 400 years ago.[/QUOTE] Most Muslims are actually extremists whether they act on this or not, It just goes hand in hand with the core beliefs of a religion that literally advocates for the slaughter of anyone who disagrees with them and then rewards that slaughter with the promise of heaven.
[QUOTE=jo291;46551603]Most Muslims are actually extremists whether they act on this or not, It just goes hand in hand with the core beliefs of a religion that literally advocates for the slaughter of anyone who disagrees with them and then rewards that slaughter with the promise of heaven.[/QUOTE] threads like these really do bring out the human garbage of facepunch
[QUOTE=Bert the Turtle;46551638]threads like these really do bring out the human garbage of facepunch[/QUOTE] Did I strike a nerve? Its not my fault that I seem to be the only one here who has actually studied Islam.
u just claimed that all muslims are extremists. i dont think ur in any position to make dumb retorts
[QUOTE=jo291;46551603]Most Muslims are actually extremists whether they act on this or not, It just goes hand in hand with the core beliefs of a religion that literally advocates for the slaughter of anyone who disagrees with them and then rewards that slaughter with the promise of heaven.[/QUOTE] what does any of this actually mean in practice. like literally what does that mean in a country like sweden
Of course not all muslims are extremists. Most of them are normal people like anyone else. The problem doesnt lie with muslims, but with Islam.
according to facepunch i can just happily say black people are the devil
[QUOTE=Ownederd;46551671]u just claimed that all muslims are extremists. i dont think ur in any position to make dumb retorts[/QUOTE] I didn't. I said the majority are.
[QUOTE=jo291;46551698]I didn't. I said the majority are.[/QUOTE] ok do u got a source to back this up w/
[QUOTE=AzzyMaster;46551693]according to facepunch i can just happily say black people are the devil[/QUOTE] Yup, and we can happily tell you to go fuck yourself in return. That's the point, you don't have to fight bigoted ideologies using law because they're flawed deep within their core, and doing so would detract from allowing dissent in a democratic nation.
[QUOTE=Pnukup;46551689]Of course not all muslims are extremists.Most of them are normal people like anyone else.The problem doesnt lie with muslims, but with Islam.[/QUOTE] If that was the case then how come people of other religions also commit crimes? I don't think there is any evidence showing that Islam causes violence, Muslims are literally just the new group for xenophobes to hate. Before it was the Communist Russians, and before that the Germans...
[QUOTE=jo291;46551648]Did I strike a nerve? Its not my fault that I seem to be the only one here who has actually studied Islam.[/QUOTE] do your studies happen to consist of stormfront articles
[QUOTE=jo291;46551698]I didn't. I said the majority are.[/QUOTE] What evidence do you have?
[QUOTE=Ownederd;46551708]ok do u got a source to back this up w/[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg[/url]
[QUOTE=jo291;46551698]I didn't. I said the majority are.[/QUOTE] I'm kinda wondering what reality you are even living in.
what a source lmao
[QUOTE=jo291;46551546]It means read the Quran and see for yourself. Its by far one of the most violent, hateful and evil religions I have ever studied.[/QUOTE] it's cool that you're a cultured thinker and all but this means absolutely nothing. most people in this thread are ignorant idiots who assume that all followers of islam are fundamentalist literalists who follow their holy text to letter. this is absolutely false and it's both fucking incredible and inexcusable that people are still this ignorant in an age where you can learn whatever you want at the click of a button. the Quran is filled with awful, despicable content, but so are the Bible and the jewish holy texts, yet you don't see pseudo-intellectual children condemning 2.4 billion christians as "barbaric" because of all the disgusting and hateful content of the Bible. regarding nearly a quarter of the world's population as savages because some of them are violent extremists is fucking dumb, no matter how you put it. the problem here is that idiots immediately associate "muslim" with "arab" and "terrorist" when, surprise surprise, only 20% of all muslims are arabs and even less accept violence as an instrument of religion. millions of muslims live peaceful lives and condemn the violent totalitarianism of groups like da'esh or the saudi government, but hey, fuck those people. they'll never matter because they conflict with your bigoted view of their culture next time you wanna try to take the intellectual high ground in an argument try to not being a dipshit lmao
[QUOTE=jo291;46551648]Did I strike a nerve? Its not my fault that I seem to be the only one here who has actually studied Islam.[/QUOTE] can i see the passage in the quran that "literally advocates the slaughter of anyone that disagrees with them"
ummm, i dunno if you didnt read buttt...im a highly regarded intellectual. ive done lots of online studies on islam and how the majority of them are extremists. back to watching anime
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;46551724]If that was the case then how come people of other religions also commit crimes? I don't think there is any evidence showing that Islam causes violence, Muslims are literally just the new group for xenophobes to hate. Before it was the Communist Russians, and before that the Germans...[/QUOTE] Just because muslims are peacful doesn't mean Islam is. Islam teaches violence, and if muslims don't follow their religion fully, same way almost every single christian doesn't follow the bible, there is really not a big problem.
[QUOTE=jo291;46551730][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg[/url][/QUOTE] you know you're buying into sensationalistic conspiracy theory crap right
[QUOTE=jo291;46551698]I didn't. I said the majority are.[/QUOTE] but what would that have to do with swedeeeeeeeeeeeeeenn
[QUOTE=Bert the Turtle;46551746]can i see the passage in the quran that "literally advocates the slaughter of anyone that disagrees with them"[/QUOTE] Sure, here: Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
[QUOTE=Ownederd;46551768]you know you're buying into sensationalistic conspiracy theory crap right[/QUOTE] What constitutes "sensationalistic conspiracy theory crap"? Everything he said was sourced.
[QUOTE=Bert the Turtle;46551746]can i see the passage in the quran that "literally advocates the slaughter of anyone that disagrees with them"[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/005-qmt.php#005.033[/url] Directly mentions execution and other horrible things. If you google a little you can find tons of verses in Quran that directly advocate murder and killings. To say Islam is peaceful is an oxymoron
imagine thinking quoting the Quran is a good argument when most muslims haven't even read it, just as most christians have never picked up a Bible outside of sunday mass [editline]oh[/editline] you're reading these texts just like a fundamentalist would
[QUOTE=Cone;46551769]but what would that have to do with swedeeeeeeeeeeeeeenn[/QUOTE] It means that It sucks for Sweden.
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