• Turkey Experienced Failed Military Coup
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[QUOTE=Redcoat893;50718860]Erdogan: Some members of the army taking orders from Penslyvania.[/QUOTE] What? This one seems like nonsense to me.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;50718845]they both said and meant the exact same thing, this is not the way to get a better government, i sincerely doubt either of them want to keep ergodan in power but know that if he is killed/usurped, whoever will come into power next will be a shitload worse[/QUOTE] See this is always a stupid belief that you can't get rid of a bad leader because whoever follows them must be worse. But you actually can, there is no rule of physics that dictates that it somehow must be bad to remove shit people from positions of power.
[QUOTE=MarcusSmith;50718867]What? This one seems like nonsense to me.[/QUOTE] Fethullah Gülen lives there, he's talking about him.
[QUOTE=MarcusSmith;50718867]What? This one seems like nonsense to me.[/QUOTE] Apparently there's a radical clerk there or something, didn't catch the whole thing
Man this has been a long night.
It's simple, if the coup win's, "well we were rooting for you secretly, that guy was dick", if the coup fails, "we was on your side, we have proof". THat does not mean they like the Ergodan, or even that they want him in power, but they have to be seen to support the world order. Add into it the fact that if you openly support a coup your asking for the same kind a shit on your own turf.
[QUOTE=Redcoat893;50718842]Yeah, the Turkish Gulags, you don't know about the Turkish gulags? Very famous prisons. /s[/QUOTE] Man, damn that turkish siberia. Crappy prisons.
[QUOTE=MarcusSmith;50718867]What? This one seems like nonsense to me.[/QUOTE] gulen lives there apparently
[QUOTE=FezianEmperor;50718876]Any source of this?[/QUOTE] BBC News Channel
At this point, whether or not the coup succeeds or fails, it is better to side with Turkey and not the Coup Forces. The U.S is allies with Turkey, and by supporting them now they basically show that they're buddies and put their faith in the Turkish government to succeed and all that. If they don't, Turkey could get mad that the other governments tried to oust them which would lead to bad feelings between the US and Turkey. Basically, its keeping Turkey from getting mad at us for trying to usurp them.
People back in the CNN stream.
CNNTURK might be back on the air
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;50718868]See this is always a stupid belief that you can't get rid of a bad leader because whoever follows them must be worse. But you actually can, there is no rule of physics that dictates that it somehow must be bad to remove shit people from positions of power.[/QUOTE] When those people were actually democratically-elected, even if they are cunts, then yes it is very bad to undemocratically attempt to throw them out, especially as Erdogan has majority support of the Turkish people. But this is about more than Erdogan. This is about democracy and responsible government.
Captured soldiers being shown on BBC, held by civilians
CNNTURK back to airing
[QUOTE]"This will be a reason to clean up the army"[/QUOTE] This pretty much confirms the false flag conspiracies for me. This coup ended up being our Reichstag fire/Iranian Revolution. Good luck to everyone who has a relative/friend in here, because after this point nothing will be positive neither for us nor them. Speculating that a few riots will rise after this, with Erdogan now dangling his new dick all over the country, while greatly expanding what he previously was doing: be it supporting ISIS or dealing with shady business in order to launder dirty money, arrests, censorships, manipulation of basically anything against him, false accusations, "accidents" - you name it. The future of secularism, democracy or simply anything happened in terms of political advancement in this country post-WW1 is truly, genuinely, completely, utterly and objectively fucked.
[media]https://twitter.com/intlspectator/status/754125875948298240[/media]
God bless you pinkshirt, you left my heart as fast as you shuffled into the studio, drinking the presenters coffee
Pinkshirt Guy is a light in the darkness known as the Turkey Coup of 2016
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;50718868]See this is always a stupid belief that you can't get rid of a bad leader because whoever follows them must be worse. But you actually can, there is no rule of physics that dictates that it somehow must be bad to remove shit people from positions of power.[/QUOTE] If you get rid of a bad leader through violent revolution, you run the risk of the leader of the revolution wanting power for themselves. Power corrupts, so when there's no check or balance on someone who takes power like that, and why would there be, that's the problem you face. None can lead revolution heartily but good men, to paraphrase edmund burke
Guy in the red hoodie took a casing with him into the studio.
[QUOTE=sb27;50718897]When those people were actually democratically-elected, even if they are cunts, then yes it is very bad to undemocratically attempt to throw them out, especially as the Erdogan has majority support of the Turkish people.[/QUOTE] Democracy fucks up regularly. Democracy isn't the end all be all for everything. It has to have it own checks and balances because large groups of dipshits can completely fuck everything up. And sometimes the system becomes broken and corrupt, and is democratic only in name, but dictatorial in every other way. Relying solely on the expectation of democracy is a fantastic way to lose everything and watch your society collapse.
[QUOTE=SlightReturn;50718903]This pretty much confirms the false flag conspiracies for me. This coup ended up being our Reichstag fire/Iranian Revolution. Good luck to everyone who has a relative/friend in here, because after this point nothing will be positive neither for us nor them. Speculating that a few riots will rise after this, with Erdogan now dangling his new dick all over the country, while greatly expanding what he previously was doing: be it supporting ISIS or dealing with shady business in order to launder dirty money, arrests, censorships, manipulation of basically anything against him, false accusations, "accidents" - you name it. The future of secularism, democracy or simply anything happened in terms of political advancement in this country post-WW1 is truly, genuinely, completely, utterly and objectively fucked.[/QUOTE] Well uh... at least it will be stable right?
Pink shirt guys is a employee? He just gave the presenter something.
it seems odd that the president went to an airport that he should know was surrounded with coup soldiers and tanks, but magically gets out without a hitch.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;50718920]Democracy fucks up regularly. Democracy isn't the end all be all for everything. It has to have it own checks and balances because large groups of dipshits can completely fuck everything up. And sometimes the system becomes broken and corrupt, and is democratic only in name, but dictatorial in every other way. Relying solely on the expectation of democracy is a fantastic way to lose everything and watch your society collapse.[/QUOTE] Where the hell are the checks and balances in a coup attempt by the military?????
[media]https://twitter.com/ikoker/status/754126249983873026[/media] 1984 YO!
Confirmed, at least 30 Soldiers have surrendered
[QUOTE=RichyZ;50718938]its much easier to deal with a dictator who suppresses free speech and silently kills dissenters than a multi-factional civil war with no end in sight, both for its people and for the international community[/QUOTE] Both sound pretty shit to me.
So theres word the coup was about Erdogan taking the country down the religious route, away from democracy.
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