Woman commits suicide by running in front of my friends truck - Polidicks

It's not cowardly to commit suicide, it's one of the most daring and difficult things to do so in a way it's requires a lot of bravery and courage - that doesn't make it a good thing but still. It's also not selfish really, why should someone be forced to live their live in constant pain and dispair just because [I]you[/I] might get upset otherwise.

I think we can all agree that suicide is a permanent solution to a tempory problem. Right minded or not, to some people it seems like the only way out.

[QUOTE=Aj;42460965]Suicide is a cowards way out.[/QUOTE] If it was, everyone would be doing it - come one, how many truly brave people do you really know?

[QUOTE=Blind Lulu;42465617]Unfortunately this isn't always the truth. [url]http://gizmodo.com/5726667/the-agonizing-last-words-of-bill-zeller[/url][/QUOTE] I remember reading about this. A very rare case where you're right, its not a temporary problem. However this woman killed herself because they took her kids away from her for whatever reason. Definitely a temporary problem.

[QUOTE=soccerskyman;42462112]Why the dumbs? This is incredibly true.[/QUOTE] Probably because it's phrased antagonistically.

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42465638]I remember reading about this. A very rare case where you're right, its not a temporary problem. However this woman killed herself because they took her kids away from her for whatever reason. Definitely a temporary problem.[/QUOTE] When you're in a depressed state, "oh its only temporary problems, it'll go away soon everything will be fine/better" is pretty much the farthest thought in your mind. Also, it wasn't a definate temporary problem (which, frankly, is inslulting to hear, it's demeaning the obvious severe problem that she was facing, and given that she took her own life, it definatetly was severe) as a mother, I imagine having your kids taken away from you and being left to wonder if you'll ever see them again, is extremely traumatic.

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I feel sorry for the woman that she felt that she needed to end her life, but I also sympathise heavily with your friend. I'm sure the sound, images, and feelings of hitting her are permanently burned into his memory, and will trouble him. That is never easy on anyone. You should encourage him to talk to someone about it if its bothering him severely.

Well since his name is in the media, I'm sure everyone AND their mom's are trying to talk to him. I'm going to give him few days, I'm sure he wants to be left alone a little bit. Shit I was at a party though and my friend got ran over by a car, he didn't die but the sou d, and image of my friend under a car is burned into my memory, even when I run over a squirrel it haunts me

[QUOTE=Vilusia;42461698]Depression can fuck with you man. I used to have severe depression and I would literally not eat for days because of how depressed I was. The best part was I had nothing to be depressed about it just happens out of no where. Shit sucks. So suicide might be a cowards way out to you, but to those who have severe depression they can't really control it sometimes.[/QUOTE] Depression caused by [i]absolutely no reason[/i], are you sure? [editline]9th October 2013[/editline] I guess it's possible, but there must be something behind it in most cases.

[QUOTE=sam6420;42462521]Every time a suicide thread comes up there's always a "psychological" debate. Yo, depressed people can still think, killing herself using somebody else is fucked up. It's facepunch, I'm sure most of you have been there and you know that you're still able to think. All that "Her mind was jello and blah blah.." is such a tired excuse.[/QUOTE] when you're ending your own life, you can hardly give a shit about how fucked up you are or what kind of damage you are causing, especially if you're desperate. telling a suicidal person that they're fucked up and an asshole for planning/committing suicide is the opposite of helping

i often consider ending it by train (theres a station about 15 minutes from my house) but its only after i calm down do i think "wow, thatd be such an asshole thing to do" i feel like public suicides are often about wanting to have others feel your pain, but obviously that doesnt make sense to a rational mind because you just end up traumatizing the fuck out of complete strangers

I was so confused when I read "Walhalla woman..." There's a road behind my house called Walhalla and I got excited that maybe breakyourfac and I were neighbors.

How do you survive breakyourfac?

I'm starting to think being friends withbreakyourface is a death sentence waiting to happen.

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;42466858]Depression caused by [i]absolutely no reason[/i], are you sure? [editline]9th October 2013[/editline] I guess it's possible, but there must be something behind it in most cases.[/QUOTE] Well, there's emotional depression and then depression caused by an imbalance in chemicals in your brain, thats how a lot of depression without seemingly anything to be depressed about happens (and traumatic emotional events can cause such an imbalance), which, its still actual depression, but you cannot avoid it (aside from being on heavy meds, a lot of which, the side effects can be, of all things, depression). You could be the happiest guy on the planet, with anything you ever want or need, but if you're predisposed (as i am) to getting the chemical imbalances often, you're going to be depressed quite often and regularly.

Could be she just wanted to die quickly. Having been suicidal, it's hard to find ways to do it. Hanging is scary plus might not be instant, guns are hard to get, heights you don't know if you'll die or paralyze yourself, forcing you to live as long as they want you to which is a horrifying thought, etc. Granted, a car might not kill you, but it's a better chance I suppose. Also, when you're suicidal, you tend to look at everything and think about it. I look at every stairwell and think "Fucking jump off the top of it NOW". Same for knife drawers, same for cars. This isn't the kind of situation or mental state where you consider everything deeply, and how it affects others.

[QUOTE=Aide;42460838]For the 1000th time we don't care about news in your town or about you. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Why reply" - Craptasket))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Where did you hear that We like hearing about Breakyourfac [editline]9th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=sam6420;42462521]Every time a suicide thread comes up there's always a "psychological" debate. Yo, depressed people can still think, killing herself using somebody else is fucked up. It's facepunch, I'm sure most of you have been there and you know that you're still able to think. All that "Her mind was jello and blah blah.." is such a tired excuse.[/QUOTE] My experience with suicidal thoughts were that I had those things in mind but knew that I wouldn't ever do them, although I was constantly under pressure and frightened that some day I just couldn't be able to take it anymore and my mind gave in irrationality.

[QUOTE=Aj;42460965]Suicide is a cowards way out.[/QUOTE] It's not so much cowardly as it is goddamn selfish.

Nothing pisses me off more than people with nothing wrong with their brains saying suicide is cowardly and/or selfish. Do you have any idea the amount of bravery it requires to take your own life? You have to overcome every survival instinct in your very being. [editline]9th October 2013[/editline] When you live in a terrible environment and you have faulty neurological wiring living can be torture.

[QUOTE=zombays;42467032]How do you survive breakyourfac?[/QUOTE] Very carefully

Did a bunch of posts get removed from this thread? [editline]9th October 2013[/editline] Or am I thinking of another thread perhaps?

You guys really don't understand the concepts of suicide and depression when you say it's selfish. You just flat-out don't understand it at all. Perhaps it is because you've never known someone who has committed/attempted suicide, and therefore you don't know how it affects someone. The last thing you would feel when someone you love commits suicide is contempt. You wouldn't dare call them selfish, and if you do, then you're a sociopath.

[QUOTE=Blind Lulu;42467849][url]http://gizmodo.com/5726667/the-agonizing-last-words-of-bill-zeller[/url] "People say suicide is selfish. I think it's selfish to ask people to continue living painful and miserable lives, just so you possibly won't feel sad for a week or two. Suicide may be a permanent solution to a temporary problem, but it's also a permanent solution to a ~23 year-old problem that grows more intense and overwhelming every day."[/QUOTE] I remember reading this on FP a while back when it was news, it contains some real eye-opening stuff about suicide. It really hits home for people who have spent a lot of time being suicidal.