With a comfortable lead, Clinton begins laying plans for her White House agenda - Polidicks

[QUOTE=wystan;50921676]If you pulled that from my post you should try actually reading it again. Regardless of the candidate, it's foolish to just think because they have a lead in polls that means they should ignore the current race and start acting like the race is won, especially this early. But maybe the metaphor was lost on you, reading comprehension doesn't seem to come easily to you.[/QUOTE] Did she come out and say that she was gonna start ignoring the race? Where did you get this from? Last time I saw this logic was when Adam cancelled Rust. [editline]21st August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=wystan;50921689]No, being presumptuous is.[/QUOTE] Making weird and illogical assumptions is arguably worse

[QUOTE=timothy80;50921660]...Which can be blamed because nobody wants to spend the money on something that is [B]literally being held up by duck tape[/B][/QUOTE] Literally indeed. The cables of the Manhattan bridge were wrapped in the cloth predecessor of modern duct tape to protect them from corrosion.

[QUOTE=wystan;50921676]If you pulled that from my post you should try actually reading it again. Regardless of the candidate, it's foolish to just think because they have a lead in polls that means they should ignore the current race and start acting like the race is won, especially this early. But maybe the metaphor was lost on you, reading comprehension doesn't seem to come easily to you.[/QUOTE] What the fuck kind of mental gymnastics do you have to go through to make this kind of statement and be serious about it?

[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;50922863]What the fuck kind of mental gymnastics do you have to go through to make this kind of statement and be serious about it?[/QUOTE] "just because a candidate is winning, doesn't mean they should make plans for after they win"

[QUOTE=wystan;50921676]If you pulled that from my post you should try actually reading it again. Regardless of the candidate, it's foolish to just think because they have a lead in polls that means they should ignore the current race and start acting like the race is won, especially this early. But maybe the metaphor was lost on you, reading comprehension doesn't seem to come easily to you.[/QUOTE] Clinton preparing for what may be ahead before it happens shows that she takes initiative and understands the sheer weight of being a major leader in one of the largest countries in the world economically. It shows she at least knows what she is doing. You have to be presumptuous that any outcome can happen and prepare for it. When you enter war, you have to prepare for your entire country being taken over, success, a tie, a space race, a nuclear threat, economic collapse, and literally 500 different outcomes within the first week that could happen. If Trump can't plan ahead like Clinton then how could he possibly run a country. What happens when China says "No, fuck you, we are nuking you. Yes we are serious. Surrender or we glass your country" and Trump has no idea what to do while in command of an entire army as commander and chief all cause he didn't pay attention because he was too busy sticking brown people in planes to kick them out?

[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;50922863]What the fuck kind of mental gymnastics do you have to go through to make this kind of statement and be serious about it?[/QUOTE] The same kind of mental gymnastics needed to support Trump in the first place.

[QUOTE=wystan;50921676]If you pulled that from my post you should try actually reading it again. Regardless of the candidate, it's foolish to just think because they have a lead in polls that means they should ignore the current race and start acting like the race is won, especially this early. But maybe the metaphor was lost on you, reading comprehension doesn't seem to come easily to you.[/QUOTE] as soon as Trump releases a plan "the correct thing for a candidate to do is to plan early and let the voters know what they're voting for. go trump"

[QUOTE=wystan;50921676]If you pulled that from my post you should try actually reading it again. Regardless of the candidate, it's foolish to just think because they have a lead in polls that means they should ignore the current race and start acting like the race is won, especially this early. But maybe the metaphor was lost on you, reading comprehension doesn't seem to come easily to you.[/QUOTE] So where does planning ahead mean that you assume you're going to win? Because it would really blow if she wins, gets in office, and has no idea what she's gonna do [editline]21st August 2016[/editline] Also good on her for planning to repair infrastructure. In NJ alone, thousands of dollars are made every day at each toll on the roads and our roads are still riddled with fucking potholes. It's ridiculous. The government is so corrupt here it's insane

Her lead will only increase after she debates Trump and she knows this- she's the only candidate that's actually fit for the presidency.

[QUOTE=Falstad007;50924940]Her lead will only increase after she debates Trump and she knows this- she's the only candidate that's actually fit for the presidency.[/QUOTE] I don't think it will increase. If you remember, she couldn't get that much of a lead against Bernie Sanders even after debating him. If she couldn't pull off a landslide against Sanders, She's not going to keep that lead against Trump. Even with cheating. (See also DNC E-mail Leaks)

[QUOTE=Falstad007;50924940]Her lead will only increase after she debates Trump and she knows this- she's the only candidate that's actually fit for the presidency.[/QUOTE] Except she is horrible at debate. For example, When Bernie and Trump accused her of being the establishment her response was that she can't be the establishment because she's "a woman". People have a lot of ammo against her, especially as her lies and continued wrong doings get put into the light.

[QUOTE=Glaber;50926091]I don't think it will increase. If you remember, she couldn't get that much of a lead against Bernie Sanders even after debating him. If she couldn't pull off a landslide against Sanders, She's not going to keep that lead against Trump.[/QUOTE] Bernie Sanders shared most of her views and has a good temperament. Trump will flip out at the smallest provocation, makes arguments with no substance, and basically relies heavily on bullying his opponents. An unsympathetic moderator in combination with Hillary could easily humiliate Trump on national television. And this is something I see happening considering the Republican party is heavily divided over Trump with numerous republicans turning against him. If Trump can even maintain where he is in the polls now it would be a success for him. How can he gather support from blacks, latins, or women who (collectively) hold over half of the vote between them? His only real demographic support comes from white males, and even that rests on shaky foundations.

One thing you're forgetting. Trump is great at debates. It's part of why he kept getting center stage in the Republician Debates. Take that in consideration with Hillery's horribleness at debates (as Metist mentioned) and Hillery will be loosing her lead once the debates begin. Plus I think here health might be a factor this time. We need to keep an eye on her regardless of who we're supporting.

He was horrible in the debates unless your concept of a debate winning strategy(which worked during the republican primaries) is to bluster the loudest shout the loudest and mock the most. He was all flash and no substance.

[QUOTE=Glaber;50926278]One thing you're forgetting. Trump is great at debates. It's part of why he kept getting center stage in the Republician Debates. Take that in consideration with Hillery's horribleness at debates (as Metist mentioned) and Hillery will be loosing her lead once the debates begin. Plus I think here health might be a factor this time. We need to keep an eye on her regardless of who we're supporting.[/QUOTE] I guess if he brings up the size of his dick again, Hillary will have nothing to compete with right :v:

[QUOTE=Glaber;50926091]I don't think it will increase. If you remember, she couldn't get that much of a lead against Bernie Sanders even after debating him. If she couldn't pull off a landslide against Sanders, She's not going to keep that lead against Trump. Even with cheating. (See also DNC E-mail Leaks)[/QUOTE] That's a fair comparison except for the fact that Bernie Sanders is actually competent.

[QUOTE=Glaber;50926278]One thing you're forgetting. Trump is great at debates. It's part of why he kept getting center stage in the Republician Debates. Take that in consideration with Hillery's horribleness at debates (as Metist mentioned) and Hillery will be loosing her lead once the debates begin. Plus I think here health might be a factor this time. We need to keep an eye on her regardless of who we're supporting.[/QUOTE] Trump was getting centre stage at the Republican debates because he was an outsider who was a celebrity and just different from everyone else. It was easy for him to stand out against the dozen or so other candidates. Also, although I wouldn't vote for Trump, he's always intriguing to watch, and so the networks put him centre stage because that attracts ratings. They deliberately did that, eg at the very first debate when the moderator asked the candidates to swear to vote for the Republican nominee; that question was asked because they knew that Trump would decline, and controversy sells. I don't expect Hillary to be as interesting as Trump will be in the debates, but I don't see where this 'Trump will destroy her in the debates' belief comes from. If she could survive hours of onslaught from hostile Republicans in relation to the Benghazi hearings and all of that, I'm sure that she can handle someone like Trump.

[QUOTE=smurfy;50921605][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/with-a-comfortable-lead-clinton-begins-laying-plans-for-her-white-house-agenda/2016/08/20/4f21cef4-65ce-11e6-96c0-37533479f3f5_story.html[/url][/QUOTE] Exhilarating message for Democrats This article tells us that with a comfortable lead, Clinton begins laying plans for her White House agenda. Clinton’s doing so even before the result of election 2016 would mean she has an overwhelming confidence of her success. Up till this day Hillary Clinton had not declared her contesting presidential election. She said in an interview published in Business Insider on April 9, 2014, “I am obviously flattered and deeply honored to have people ask me about my fighting the game and people encourage me”. Today, those people feel flattered, honored and encouraged when they see their leader making remarkable performance in polls downgrading her rival, observing her indefatigable involvement in the campaign, noticing her preparation for keeping White House affairs in good shape, attracting people from the opposite camp, noting her confidence for winning the election and triumphantly trampling down the barriers that her opponents erect in her way such as her gender, age, health, illegal use of email, Benghazi involvement etc. The dazzle that is sparking in Clinton’s circumstances is due to her personality, talents, die-hard supporters, sincere financers, faithful campaign operators, highly priceless endorsements. On the top of all these provisions; patronages of dignitaries like President Barrack Obama, vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Tim Kaine and many more make a significant contribution to win her triumph. I am not an astrologer who can predict the reaction of Trump after his defeat. The Trump whom I have discovered from his speeches, statements, interviews and public encounters is rigid, stubborn, authoritative, unyielding, snob and disputatious. The last quality of his being disputatious was largely noticed at RNC which Hillary Clinton remarked, “GOP Spent More of Their Convention ‘Insulting’ Me Than Talking About Policy” Media, July 30th, 2016 Suggesting that Trump would easily accept his defeat would be like befuddling us. He would rather turn rebellious as his preparations shows. Trump, who has already begun complaining that the election system is “rigged” against him. Habitually, Trump sensationalizes issues as he repeatedly attacks Clinton with her health issue, an issue rebuffed again and again. For the creation of turmoil, Trump would steadfastly cling to his campaign slogans: Mexico wall, immigrants, Muslims Clinton on her part would try to accomplish her commitments but would have tough time when she scuffles with issues like immigrants, illegal immigrants already found in USA and fate of Muslims because Trump would be stirring the sentiments of people. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("I don't even know" - GunFox))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Glaber;50926278]One thing you're forgetting. Trump is great at debates. It's part of why he kept getting center stage in the Republician Debates. Take that in consideration with Hillery's horribleness at debates (as Metist mentioned) and Hillery will be loosing her lead once the debates begin. Plus I think here health might be a factor this time. We need to keep an eye on her regardless of who we're supporting.[/QUOTE] i like how your only hope of winning this election is if your primary opponent drops dead on stage this health thing is the most pathetic, stupid thing I've ever seen

[QUOTE=Mushtaq Dean;50933839]Exhilarating message for Democrats This article tells us that with a comfortable lead, Clinton begins laying plans for her White House agenda. Clinton’s doing so even before the result of election 2016 would mean she has an overwhelming confidence of her success. Up till this day Hillary Clinton had not declared her contesting presidential election. She said in an interview published in Business Insider on April 9, 2014, “I am obviously flattered and deeply honored to have people ask me about my fighting the game and people encourage me”. Today, those people feel flattered, honored and encouraged when they see their leader making remarkable performance in polls downgrading her rival, observing her indefatigable involvement in the campaign, noticing her preparation for keeping White House affairs in good shape, attracting people from the opposite camp, noting her confidence for winning the election and triumphantly trampling down the barriers that her opponents erect in her way such as her gender, age, health, illegal use of email, Benghazi involvement etc. The dazzle that is sparking in Clinton’s circumstances is due to her personality, talents, die-hard supporters, sincere financers, faithful campaign operators, highly priceless endorsements. On the top of all these provisions; patronages of dignitaries like President Barrack Obama, vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Tim Kaine and many more make a significant contribution to win her triumph. I am not an astrologer who can predict the reaction of Trump after his defeat. The Trump whom I have discovered from his speeches, statements, interviews and public encounters is rigid, stubborn, authoritative, unyielding, snob and disputatious. The last quality of his being disputatious was largely noticed at RNC which Hillary Clinton remarked, “GOP Spent More of Their Convention ‘Insulting’ Me Than Talking About Policy” Media, July 30th, 2016 Suggesting that Trump would easily accept his defeat would be like befuddling us. He would rather turn rebellious as his preparations shows. Trump, who has already begun complaining that the election system is “rigged” against him. Habitually, Trump sensationalizes issues as he repeatedly attacks Clinton with her health issue, an issue rebuffed again and again. For the creation of turmoil, Trump would steadfastly cling to his campaign slogans: Mexico wall, immigrants, Muslims Clinton on her part would try to accomplish her commitments but would have tough time when she scuffles with issues like immigrants, illegal immigrants already found in USA and fate of Muslims because Trump would be stirring the sentiments of people.[/QUOTE] Dude what

[QUOTE=smurfy;50933857]Dude what[/QUOTE] Looks translated. But I disagree with that poster: Clinton brought those "barriers" upon herself by being a corrupt politician.

[QUOTE=wystan;50921762]Ever single post I've made on this forum about polls is how not to trust them, I still said this when Trump was up over Clinton.[/QUOTE] You dont trust polls but you want to make a point that she has a 6 point lead. Dont cite polls if you dont trust them.

[QUOTE=smurfy;50921605][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/with-a-comfortable-lead-clinton-begins-laying-plans-for-her-white-house-agenda/2016/08/20/4f21cef4-65ce-11e6-96c0-37533479f3f5_story.html[/url][/QUOTE] Exhilarating message for Democrats This article tells us that with a comfortable lead, Clinton begins laying plans for her White House agenda. Clinton’s doing so even before the result of election 2016 would mean she has an overwhelming confidence of her success. Up till this day Hillary Clinton had not declared her contesting presidential election. She said in an interview published in Business Insider on April 9, 2014, “I am obviously flattered and deeply honored to have people ask me about my fighting the game and people encourage me”. Today, those people feel flattered, honored and encouraged when they see their leader making remarkable performance in polls downgrading her rival, observing her indefatigable involvement in the campaign, noticing her preparation for keeping White House affairs in good shape, attracting people from the opposite camp, noting her confidence for winning the election and triumphantly trampling down the barriers that her opponents erect in her way such as her gender, age, health, illegal use of email, Benghazi involvement etc. The dazzle that is sparking in Clinton’s circumstances is due to her personality, talents, die-hard supporters, sincere financers, faithful campaign operators, highly priceless endorsements. On the top of all these provisions; patronages of dignitaries like President Barrack Obama, vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Tim Kaine and many more make a significant contribution to win her triumph. I am not an astrologer who can predict the reaction of Trump after his defeat. The Trump whom I have discovered from his speeches, statements, interviews and public encounters is rigid, stubborn, authoritative, unyielding, snob and disputatious. The last quality of his being disputatious was largely noticed at RNC which Hillary Clinton remarked, “GOP Spent More of Their Convention ‘Insulting’ Me Than Talking About Policy” Media, July 30th, 2016 Suggesting that Trump would easily accept his defeat would be like befuddling us. He would rather turn rebellious as his preparations shows. Trump, who has already begun complaining that the election system is “rigged” against him. Habitually, Trump sensationalizes issues as he repeatedly attacks Clinton with her health issue, an issue rebuffed again and again. For the creation of turmoil, Trump would steadfastly cling to his campaign slogans: Mexico wall, immigrants, Muslims Clinton on her part would try to accomplish her commitments but would have tough time when she scuffles with issues like immigrants, illegal immigrants already found in USA and fate of Muslims because Trump would be stirring the sentiments of people.

[QUOTE=Riller;50921624]Good! American infrastructure is literally crumbling into dust due to lack of maintenance the last fifty years.[/QUOTE]Except not. Half the problem is the existing infrastructure is being [I]maintained[/I] rather than [I]replaced[/I] which is what needs to happen. We're constantly maintaining the busted shit we have, it's expensive. [QUOTE=timothy80;50921660]...Which can be blamed because nobody wants to spend the money on something that is literally being held up by duck tape[/QUOTE]More like nobody wants to agree how to spend the money, a lot of these decisions fall to state and local governments rather than federal, I'm not sure how Hillary plans to do a goddamn thing other than throw money at the problem. [editline]24th August 2016[/editline] Really a lot of this "infrastructure" (vague term, not all of it is equally terrible or immediately fixable) does not fall under federal authority beyond regulations that say not to build it out of legos or establish standards that the states are expected to follow. There's certainly interstate systems but local maintenance is to be performed by states themselves and expansion or upgrades are at the whim of whoever is paying the taxes. Really it boils down to the question of [I]who[/I] is going to be doing all of this and with what money, at the end of the day a state can go "no, fuck off with your federal money," because they will still have to foot some (or most, key problem right here) of the money. So it's either a tax hike or it's take from something else, all on top of a presumed tax increase for small businesses and the middle class at the federal level to pay for all this shit. I'm not saying "oh it's fucked don't do anything" but I'm not seeing how anything could be done.